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    Post  JohninMK Thu May 23, 2024 2:36 pm

    Think it only needs the President to say yes now.

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    Scripted theater between McCaul and Blinken. The decision was made many months. This is a performance with visual aids, preparing people for the next escalation, which will fail like all the wonder weapon escalations before it.

    👉Two weeks ago Blinken went to Kiev and stated that Ukraine can do as they wish with US weapons.
    👉Last week WSJ said Biden WH was considering allowing UKR to use US weapons to hit Russia.
    👉Three days ago Nuland said US weapons should hit Russia.
    👉Yesterday green T-shirt actor said he was negotiating to use weapons to hit inside Russia.

    Neocons/neolibs have not realized that the slower this war goes, the faster their empire collapses.



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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 23, 2024 3:17 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Head of the Main Communications Directorate of the Armed Forces, Lieutenant General Vadim Shamarin, has been detained.

    ... and that news is one of those that shows the difference.
    Every war and mass spending creates opportunities for corruption and stealing.
    Russkie are detaining high profile figures and charging them.
    Have you heard of some high ranked Ukro official detained for corruption? Laughing

    While it is crystal clear that Russkie are investing a hell of money in an impressively effective way, while ukrs are stealing every single cent that can be stolen.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu May 23, 2024 3:31 pm

    JohninMK wrote:

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    Basically Ukraine is going to be no more than Galicia when this thing is done.


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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu May 23, 2024 3:40 pm

    So Ukraine is officially suspending the Krynky "beachhead" (pointless meatgrinder) operation, people say.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 23, 2024 4:23 pm

    Oh no, why so?
    Laughing Laughing

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    Post  mnztr Thu May 23, 2024 4:29 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Think it only needs the President to say yes now.

    Alex Christoforou
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    Scripted theater between McCaul and Blinken. The decision was made many months. This is a performance with visual aids, preparing people for the next escalation, which will fail like all the wonder weapon escalations before it.

    👉Two weeks ago Blinken went to Kiev and stated that Ukraine can do as they wish with US weapons.
    👉Last week WSJ said Biden WH was considering allowing UKR to use US weapons to hit Russia.
    👉Three days ago Nuland said US weapons should hit Russia.
    👉Yesterday green T-shirt actor said he was negotiating to use weapons to hit inside Russia.

    Neocons/neolibs have not realized that the slower this war goes, the faster their empire collapses.





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    Basically Ukraine is going to be no more than Galicia when this thing is done.  

    May as well give that to Poland, as long as they agree to keep it demilitrized.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 23, 2024 4:31 pm

    And you REALLY had to quote that wall of pics only to add this comment?

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    Post  mnztr Thu May 23, 2024 4:34 pm

    Arrow wrote:Su-30SM2 with R-37 M Very Happy


    I think its legit to say the R-37M is one of the stars of the SMO, and has transformed thinking about AAMs. I expect ranges will get much longer and likely someone will release a 2 stage missile at some point which can launch either full missile or just the first stage if the target is close.
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    Post  Arrow Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm

    R 37M is two-stage.No one in the world currently has an equivalent
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    Post  mnztr Thu May 23, 2024 4:48 pm

    Arrow wrote:R 37M is two-stage.No one in the world currently has an equivalent

    yes I know that, but missiles will evolve so you will be able to fire the first stage only so you won't have to carry long and short range missiles.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Thu May 23, 2024 4:52 pm

    Arrow wrote:R 37M is two-stage.No one in the world currently has an equivalent

    Single stage. Like if it's 2 stage then it will be longer and have visible booster stage like R-172 or K-100.

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    Post  Mir Thu May 23, 2024 4:56 pm

    I think you guys are confusing "stage" with "mode"? The missile has a cruise mode for extended ranges out to 400km.

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    Post  Hole Thu May 23, 2024 6:08 pm

    while ukrs are stealing every single cent that can be stolen.
    They are very effective in that regard, too.  Very Happy

    Basically Ukraine is going to be no more than Galicia when this thing is done.
    As Scott Ritter said, you don´t leave cancer cells in a body.
    All of them have to be removed.

    Oh no, why so?
    Bad optics.

    The missile has a cruise mode for extended ranges out to 400km.
    The same modes are used in Russian Anti-ship missiles.
    For launch a higher setting to bring the missile up to speed,
    later a lower setting for travel until the final stage of the flight.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu May 23, 2024 6:30 pm

    New DM Belousov is busy at work, jesus christ. Mere hours after known grifter Shamarin was detained, Verteletskiy got a visit.

    Yesterday, the Russian shitlib "opposition" (all foreign-funded, naturally) tried to dig up dirt on Belousov but found zilch. Dude regularly goes to church, he once had a moderately expensive house that he's since gotten rid of, and he prefers cats over dogs. That was what they found.

    Soonish the lib tune will change, "dude's not corrupt, the horror", much like the case with Mishustin. Well, nobody talks about Mishustin nowadays I guess, nothing to attack.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 23, 2024 7:08 pm

    No worries, they will call him pedophile.
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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Thu May 23, 2024 8:14 pm

    Hole wrote:
    while ukrs are stealing every single cent that can be stolen.
    They are very effective in that regard, too.  Very Happy

    Basically Ukraine is going to be no more than Galicia when this thing is done.
    As Scott Ritter said, you don´t leave cancer cells in a body.
    All of them have to be removed.

    Oh no, why so?
    Bad optics.

    The missile has a cruise mode for extended ranges out to 400km.
    The same modes are used in Russian Anti-ship missiles.
    For launch a higher setting to bring the missile up to speed,
    later a lower setting for travel until the final stage of the flight.

    Thing is, there are no "settings", you can't really throttle a solid fuel rocket motor. Once it's lit, that's it. It'll just burn uncontrollably from there on.

    But you can have stages, ie different motors and/or fuels. The "throttling" is built in, then, so to speak.

    Or you have a jet sustainer, which can be throttled to your heart's content.

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    Post  Broski Fri May 24, 2024 1:21 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    👉Two weeks ago Blinken went to Kiev and stated that Ukraine can do as they wish with US weapons.
    👉Last week WSJ said Biden WH was considering allowing UKR to use US weapons to hit Russia.
    👉Three days ago Nuland said US weapons should hit Russia.
    👉Yesterday green T-shirt actor said he was negotiating to use weapons to hit inside Russia.
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    Gonna need a pretty big buffer zone to make Russia safe from those ATACMS.
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    Ignore that parts marked as Polish/Romanian territory, not one inch of country 404 will be gifted to NATO.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri May 24, 2024 2:36 am

    Broski wrote:Ignore that parts marked as Polish/Romanian territory, not one inch of country 404 will be gifted to NATO.

    I prefer my version....  Twisted Evil   I say this only partially in jest...

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    Post  mnztr Fri May 24, 2024 3:47 am

    Heard a Russian General at the front was arrested for orderering too many assaults with high casualties. Anyone know more?
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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri May 24, 2024 5:21 am

    mnztr wrote:Heard a Russian General at the front was arrested for orderering too many assaults with high casualties. Anyone know more?

    Semi confirmation on facebook. Per Redsamurai84, who has posted decades worth of Soviet/Russian military parades, "the commander of the 20th Combined Arms Army, Major General Suhrab Akhmedov has been relieved of his command. He was repeatedly involved in failed offensive operations with unjustified losses near Vuhledar. According to military sources, he is also accused of lying to the command staff by misleading them about the real situation on the frontlines, which allowed him to enjoy his position until now."

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    Post  nomadski Fri May 24, 2024 7:31 am

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    According to war imperative , populations not living or coexisting , then Russian new regions should include all the dark areas on this map . Ukraine landlocked and Russia not having access to upper reaches of Deniper . If Ukraine stops water flow , Russia stops water access . Problematic , but may work . It is better to leave no Ukraine than little  Ukraine , if that was a choice . Little unviable proxy NATO entity , a thorn in the side !

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri May 24, 2024 8:02 am

    This map is incorrect. Most major cities in Ukraine speak Russian. Kiev is almost exclusively Russian speaking.

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    Post  nomadski Fri May 24, 2024 8:04 am

    So include Kiev !

    But if all major cities are Russian speaking , then not possible to have territorial division . Either all Russian , all non- Russian or neither ( continue conflict ) !

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri May 24, 2024 8:25 am

    All of Ukraine needs to be taken and then de banderized throughly.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri May 24, 2024 8:48 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/598149-azov-welcomed-parliament-london/

    UK MPs applaud Ukrainian neo-Nazis (PHOTOS)
    Members of Azov were greeted as heroes in London


    British MPs clap for members of Ukraine's neo-Nazi 'Azov' brigade in London, May 22, 2024. © X/azov_media

    British lawmakers cheered a delegation of the notorious Azov Ukrainian military unit at a roundtable in Parliament on Wednesday, while former Prime Minister Boris Johnson called them “heroes.”

    The event, they said, was chaired by Victoria Prentis MP, attorney general of England and Wales. The two other MPs they thanked by name were Sir John Whittingdale, former minister for Data and Digital Infrastructure; and Bob Seely MP, chair of the UK-Ukraine Parliamentary Friendship Group. All three are from the ruling Conservative Party.

    Fedosiuk, Serbov and Vernygora also posed with former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who famously visited Kiev in April 2022 to torpedo any possibility of a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia.

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