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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:13 am

    Looks like the attack was carried by navyal drone. Extensive damage under the bridge. Wondering if Russia can construct some kind of floating bypass ...
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:17 am

    The act of using civilian stuff to attack is a gray area, as some countries say it's ok long as there is no civil meat shields, other rules depends if you recognize stuff like the Hague which the us neither Russia do. It really depends whose rules you following.

    But mostly long as you not using civis as shields, it's fine to use civi stuff in military operations, Russians themselves have no law banning this in their own forces
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    Post  Hole Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:23 am

    Grain deal cancelled.


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    Looks better then most bridges in the US.

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    Post  Serberus Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:29 am

    famschopman wrote:It's long overdue to strike back and stop pussyfooting and set a clear statement

    - Cancel the grain deal - immediately
    - No fly zone in black sea; all foreign aircraft will be shot down
    - Sever the undersea lines with the UK
    - Properly destroy energy and rail transportation infrastructure
    - US Aircraft in Syria; shoot them down.

    Current approach is way too soft imho.



    Looks like the grain deal was “suspended” with a caveat that it will immediately recommence once agreements are fulfilled. Rolling Eyes

    I agree with you about all points above apart from the Syrian one… no need to start anything there atm.

    Destruction of Ukronazi infrastructure and NFZ over black sea should have been enacted a long time ago but considering how soft Russia has been so far ,  the latest attack on bridge will just result in the usual twitter rant from Med , some pointless tough talking from a Duma member and maybe a half assed comment from Lavrov/Peskov


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    🇷🇺⚔🇺🇦 Dmitry Medvedev calls for the elimination of the top leadership of Ukraine and their relatives:

    "Terrorists cannot be fought with international sanctions, intimidation or exhortations.
    They only understand the language of power.
    Only personal and completely inhumane methods.

    It is necessary to blow up their own houses and the houses of their relatives. Look for and eliminate their accomplices, abandoning the insipid idea of a trial against them. But the main thing is to destroy the top leadership of terrorist groups , no matter in what cracks these insects hide.
    It's difficult, but possible"

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    Post  Hole Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:30 am

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:32 am

    The longer the war goes on, the more this will happen

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:42 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:The longer the war goes on, the more this will happen

    This is just the start.

    Poland, Pre-Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan are incoming.

    Make no mistake this is just the start of WW3.

    Expect of the Kiwis like GarryB, the rest of us will somehow feel this war. You probably only at the front of civil war, at least that would be hope for the rest of the world.

    This would certainly be in the realm of possibilities, especially when the globalists plan to bail the US as a super power, then you will face the same thing as the Soviet Union and will be dismandeled from within. You already have the signs of it. The pre-planed and conducted de-humanization and degeneracy of your society by feminism that runs right into LGBTQ and pedophilia. That was a conspiracy theory 10 years ago but a hard fact today. Drag Queens, Epstein, Hollywood pedophilia, globalists right out talk of depopulation (WEF,WHO, Gates and vaccinations) Biolabs in Ukraine and now in Kazakhstan, which was another "conspiracy theory" of "nutheads".

    Have fun, with what you have praised for so long. WW3 is inevitable, death is planned and conducted.

    Kazakhs will face war and I have zero doubt about it. Kakaev is a traitor and puppet of the West that just a few weeks ago signed deals with US to build US biolabs. US has even test grounds within it's own population and they don't even hide it, except that they don't shout about it on their own controlled MSM.

    There is literally nothing positive about the US and it's society right now. I doubt even the North Koreans are looking to live in the US rather than in NK.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:45 am

    Rant all you want because you're bridge got hit due to Russian pussyfooting, makes no difference to me

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:53 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:The longer the war goes on, the more this will happen

    This is just the start.

    Poland, Pre-Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan are incoming.

    Make no mistake this is just the start of WW3. ...

    Russia doesn't have the balls for WW3, they don't even have the balls to exterminate some shithead nobodies nextdoor



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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:07 pm

    Remember the Russian soldier ranting about the West?.

    Here is more of him.

    RF soldier with rant about the West interviewed on Russian TV (subtitled)

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:09 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Russia doesn't have the balls for WW3, they don't even have the balls to exterminate some shithead nobodies nextdoor

    Funny, to hear that from you. Must have been the one Serbian guy that fucked up all of Americans in '99.

    You surely do not know what you are talking about on top of the fact that Except of the US and globalists NO ONE wants WW3.
    Being Serbian you should be the last one to want WW3 because you are all alone surrounded by Piranhas. They will tear you even further apart. Your Vuvic is killing your Serbian army but at the same time sweet talks you. Don't tell me anything about Pussyfooting when Serbia today is the entire C*U*N*T and spineless.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:25 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Looks better then most bridges in the US.

    Artemovsk looks better than some parts of Detroit either Laughing

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:59 pm

    Cute copes, can easily find bridges in bad condition in Russia, but whatever helps you kiddo

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:15 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Cute copes, can easily find bridges in bad condition in Russia, but whatever helps you kiddo

    You are ignoring the fundamental difference and scale between the countries.

    The problem in the US is that the civilian infrastructure is slowly degrading from the world leading, excellent standard that it was, due by the look of it from lack of investment. As opposed to Russia, where the standards are being raised, often from nothing or the very basic.

    Perhaps this is due to US political donations and hence political action being much more lucrative from high profit Pharma and MIC rather than the boring and more understandable heavy civil engineering. So you pissed the money down the drain on pointless wars like Afghanistan whilst say China was spending probably similar amounts on their railway network. With zero evidence that the situations will change.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:16 pm

    Well the grain deal is dead, announced already.

    And regarding the attack on the crimean bridge I would say any bridge or rail line coming from HATO to Ukraine in the west of the country could be targeted and brought down in response... if Kiev wants to be a terrorist then there should be a penalty, and a suitable penalty is not being able to transfer people and goods from the west into the Ukraine by land while Russia cannot transport things by rail bridge to Crimea.

    Otherwise they will keep trying to hit it... so keep hitting bridges and rail lines into the Ukraine till they stop... and if they don't stop well there should be plenty of roads and rail lines to keep hitting...

    But mostly long as you not using civis as shields, it's fine to use civi stuff in military operations, Russians themselves have no law banning this in their own forces

    But that just means all civilian traffic would need to be blocked to prevent it happening in the future... which is probably why they did it because with the grain deal ending now they wont be able to do it in future with hidden stuff in civilian ships in the grain corridor.

    This makes attacks on the bridge much much harder... another reason to end the deal permanently.

    The longer the war goes on, the more this will happen

    Actually the end of the grain deal makes this much much harder for the orcs to achieve... I think Russia should simply say that the grain deal is dead and that this attack on the bridge means nothing the west does will restart the deal.

    Rant all you want because you're bridge got hit due to Russian pussyfooting, makes no difference to me

    Is pussy footing the word for the day?

    This happened because the Ukraine used the grain shipment corridors to commit a terrorist act... now that corridor is closed so they will struggle to repeat this attack but it clearly shows ending the grain deal is the right thing for Russia... but I think a message needs to be sent too.

    Last time they lost power... perhaps now they need to have trouble using rail and road links to the west maybe, but I am sure they will come up with a suitable response... keep in mind they are losing hundreds of men per day on the front line... escalating and hitting HATO targets and indeed government targets and indeed US targets in the Ukraine might be another step they could take... they obviously said they wouldn't hit such targets before but Kiev also promised not to use the grain corridor to attack targets from too... you break your side and we can reciprocate.

    Russia doesn't have the balls for WW3, they don't even have the balls to exterminate some shithead nobodies nextdoor

    They are not stupid enough to commit suicide, yes, that is true... but considering the state of the US and its economy and culture I can understand why they are pushing to get shot... blue suicide isn't it?

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:20 pm

    Cute copes, can easily find bridges in bad condition in Russia, but whatever helps you kiddo

    Your country is sending billions of dollars to the Ukraine and most of its old obsolete equipment and most of its ammo it had stored around the world too... but no money for healthcare or education or infrastructure...

    You have a group of idiot countries in Europe who will do almost anything you tell them, and are sending billions to Kiev too and are emptying their armouries of weapons and ammo, especially old ex Soviet stuff that was reliable and effective and they are going to expect you to replace that round for round and tank for tank and plane for plane with your expensive equivalent so your military MIC is going to be fizzing for the next decade or two, but after seeing your stuff burn in the Ukraine who else will buy it? The ones you make buy it normally of course... but no one else I suspect.

    The irony is that right now it is good times... you can print all the money you want... print 1 trillion dollars and spend it on upgrading your entire road and rail network... fix and upgrade or replace all your bridges and tunnels, all your water systems all your sewers all your sewerage treatment plants... everything... because in 10 years that money wont be worth shit and you will be stuck with that infrastructure for the next 50 years... so you better make it nice and solid...

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:28 pm

    So, note the quantity, now scale this up to how many tens of thousands of CB type munition the US going to ship into the hands of the 'we will be careful using it' Ukrainians.

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    Post  ahmedfire Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:29 pm

    a desperate move to cover over their counteroffensive failure and to show some action to the west to keep the wallet open , what will happen here  Russia will fix this damage , Ukraine counteroffensive  will continues it's failure  

    The only change is that Ukraine will pay much more price .

    Expecting more from Russia.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:31 pm

    Just a reminder of the result of 5 weeks hard work by the UA. Think the words at the top should have been "You are STILL here" Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:38 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:

    Expecting more from Russia.

    Useful picture. Maybe next time the attack on the Intelligence HQ (where is the boss?) in Kiev will be designed to flood it.

    I suspect that the days to the total, rather than partial, destruction of that rail bridge SW of Odessa are now numbered. It is an important grain route.

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:43 pm

    the latest attack on bridge will just result in the usual twitter rant from Med , some pointless tough talking from a Duma member and maybe a half assed comment from Lavrov/Peskov

    Oh yes, because the "soft" Russians didn't start attacking Ukraine's energy infrastructure after the first attack on this bridge Rolling Eyes

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:54 pm

    Interesting alternative weapon possibility. If the Russians find the hardware and radio control evidence ...............................................

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    This was reported by the TG-channel Resident, citing a source in Zelensky's office.

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    ❗ Earlier, Maria Zakharova said that American and British intelligence services were involved in planning the attack.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:02 pm

    🇬🇧 The attack on the Crimean bridge was allegedly carried out using a British marine underwater autonomous robot REMUS 600 with an additional load of explosives

    This was reported by the TG-channel Resident, citing a source in Zelensky's office.

    REMUS 600 can move under water at a depth of up to 600 meters. It is controlled from a laptop.

    Maybe some north sea oil rigs might start having some problems... the first attack on the crimean bridge killed some people and this one killed some people so killing people appears to be OK with the west...

    Plus UAVs appear to be being used to guide terrorist attacks so a no fly zone in the top half of the black sea seems to be in order...

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:10 pm

    Ukraine has every right to attack the bridge, they do not need to hide it. Russians use it to move troops and material which makes it a legit target, The idea evidence is needed the conclude there was some "crime" is non-sense

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