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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:25 pm

    UK supplying MRAP vehicles won't be that useful in this type if conflict these will most likely be well worn ex Iraqi conflict vehicles.

    Also not sure how UK will supply Harpoon anti ship missiles, UK only uses air and ship launched versions, Ukraine has no navy or ships that can use them, same goes for air force. They would have to build from new land based version which does exist but not in UK inventory. And Ukraine would need full training on these systems.

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    Post  Serberus Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:34 pm

    Empty promises to try keep them fighting I would imagine. The only thing they have provided so far  in decent number and that would be of any significant impact  (albeit just to forestall the inevitable regardless) are ATGMs and MANPADS . They have clearly helped to increase Russian/Donbas army losses but not win the fights.
    I dont think these western leaders, or most or them anyway actually believe the crap they are spewing and that Kiev is winning, they just want to bleed Russia as much as possible, using the Banderistanis as cannon fodder.

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    Post  Regular Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:37 pm

    Only 1 side benefits from the use of MRAPs. Ukrainians are already mining the roads as seen in some IED videos.
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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:52 pm

    https://t.me/intelslava/24878

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 In the Dnieper (former and future Dnepropetrovsk) there is an unreal commotion. All patrol cars of the national police were pulled up to the monument to Pushkin, on which unknown people put the symbol of the special operation Z.

    Several people have been detained. Details are being clarified.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    If my damn phone didn't try to autolog on this forum a week ago I would have no Idea that my permaban was tweaked to one month, nice one

    I do have to say that it's pretty interesting experience when you get angry for Russia wasting lives of it's soldiers in needless land war around Kiev and getting banned for it only for Shoigu himself to go on record couple of days later and say that you have been right all along  Rolling Eyes


    So here are my 2 cents on several things:


    The original mistake: Not exterminating VSU in Debaltseve 6 years ago and expanding control to entire Donetsk and Lughansk regions which would have created stable areas of control and would preempt all of this this  

    Instead they took some scraps of land and pretended everything was cool while locals were getting slaughtered, FFS they didn't even took the control of Donetsk city, damn place is still getting shelled



    The facts: Ukranian population is overwhelmingly composed of Nazis and any effort to spare them of being collateral damage is a waste of time and lives as these last 30 days have shown

    That insanely disciplined radio silence religiously adhered to by entire Ukranian population is one of many evidences of this, one word from Zelensky and they all stopped posting immediately, oppressed civilians my ass...



    What Russia should have done:
    If it's true that Ukraine was planning to attack Donbass Russia should have waited until they started and used that opportunity to launch mass aerial campaign to exterminate attacking VSU and spend at least a month on it until every last thing capable of using firearm was dead before committing any ground troops

    Instead they sent their soldiers to race in like some stereotypical videogame NPC into pre-prepared ambushes and get slaughtered over nothing just because some old commies in Moscow thought that 30 million Nazis would be happy to see them

    Instead of spending weeks and weeks bombing the Ukranians into the ground they decided to flush the lives of their soldiers down the toilet by sending them to the slaughter without and artillery or air support



    What is at stake now: Whatever original plan or assumptions were it turned out to be complete horseshit and Russia is now in much bigger fight than they expected to be (which came as no surprise whatsoever to everyone but them)

    Only way to achiever victory now is to keep the war going at all costs and not to stop until they reach Polish border, Ukraine can't be allowed to keep existing after this

    If they fail to do this they will lose not just this war but their own statehood, USA and EU will get the chance to finish what they didn't manage to back in the 90s



    How to win the war: They win this war just like every single war ever fought was won which is by killing the enemy

    No pussyfooting, no crying over collateral damage, no humanitarian bullshit, start killing the Ukrainian military and keep killing them until there is nothing left, when they bring in fresh troops kill them too and keep doing it until every single moron dumb enough to resist is dead

    If any ''civilian'' is still dumb enough to stay close to VSU then they are free to drop dead, they made their choice

    Kill every single Ukrainian politician that shows up under drone camera

    Not a single part of Ukraine can be allowed to stay independent otherwise EU will turn it into another West Germany and keep pouring free cash there to f*ck with Russia for decades to come




    Syria made the world fear Russian conventional military again

    This war has shredded any idea of conventional Russian deterrence down the shitter, USA and especially Europe no longer fear Russian military and prevailing line of thinking now is that if Ukraine can fight off Russia then it would be a cakewalk for NATO even without USA

    It is a disaster and is also eroding Russian nuclear deterrence: if Russia is seen as too cowardly to take out Ukraine they will also be seen as afraid to use nuclear weapons if attacked by NATO which is invitation to war



    Only way to correct this perception (and it absolutely must be corrected and fast) is to start stacking corpses and to stack them high, every single Ukrainian goon has to be killed ASAP and they need to start with that pocket in the East and then move westwards to finish the job no matter how long it takes

    Russia will not bee seen as viable military power again unless the put at least 100k Nazis into the ground and advertise it as loud as possible

    If they don't this will become Winter War 2 and I don’t need to tell you what happened as a result of that fiasco

    Pussyfooting has to end otherwise Russia will end



    Yes!

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    Post  Serberus Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:03 pm

    flamming_python wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/24878

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 In the Dnieper (former and future Dnepropetrovsk) there is an unreal commotion.  All patrol cars of the national police were pulled up to the monument to Pushkin, on which unknown people put the symbol of the special operation Z.

    Several people have been detained.  Details are being clarified.

    Considering what the Nazis have been doing to people they even suspect of being pro Russian, it is ultimately a futile and pointless act which will most likely result in their torture and death. They would have done more by joining the Militia once the Russians came rolling in.

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    Post  Broski Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:12 pm

    Serberus wrote:Considering what the Nazis have been doing to people they even suspect of being pro Russian, it is ultimately a futile and pointless act which will most likely result in their torture and death. They would have done more by joining the Militia once the Russians came rolling in.
    Nobody has ever extolled the intelligence of the average Ukrainian, as far as I'm aware.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:16 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:AD is not a limitation to VKS

    They take out Buk and Tor routinely ,


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    Tor has never been turned off (if it was active).
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:18 pm

    Ukrainians were caught using LMM manpads

    British have brought new manpads for them

    These Ukrainians won't surrender, it's pointless to offer them the opportunity

    Some will, but thag will overshadow the missed opportunity to get ride of Sever and Vostok groups of the JFO

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:21 pm

    ALAMO wrote:...Next year we will have a Crimean rice production, to begin with.

    Rice is dirt cheap and you can easily get it from Asia

    Growing rice in Crimea is a waste of time and resources, only commies were dumb enough to grow rice in arid region

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    Post  Serberus Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:24 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Ukrainians were caught using LMM manpads

    British have brought new manpads for them

    These Ukrainians won't surrender,  it's pointless to offer them the opportunity

    Some will, but thag will overshadow the missed opportunity to get ride of Sever and Vostok groups of the JFO

    https://t.me/a_vyshinskiy/4363
    You may just be right considering the kind of demented **** you have to be to come up with this garbage.

    Wehrmacht mining a residential area while locals rightfully lose their shit at them
    https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/53606


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:30 pm

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    New LMM

    We should have hit them with FAB 3000 when we had the chance

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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:33 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    If my damn phone didn't try to autolog on this forum a week ago I would have no Idea that my permaban was tweaked to one month, nice one

    I do have to say that it's pretty interesting experience when you get angry for Russia wasting lives of it's soldiers in needless land war around Kiev and getting banned for it only for Shoigu himself to go on record couple of days later and say that you have been right all along  Rolling Eyes


    So here are my 2 cents on several things:


    The original mistake: Not exterminating VSU in Debaltseve 6 years ago and expanding control to entire Donetsk and Lughansk regions which would have created stable areas of control and would preempt all of this this  

    Instead they took some scraps of land and pretended everything was cool while locals were getting slaughtered, FFS they didn't even took the control of Donetsk city, damn place is still getting shelled



    The facts: Ukranian population is overwhelmingly composed of Nazis and any effort to spare them of being collateral damage is a waste of time and lives as these last 30 days have shown

    That insanely disciplined radio silence religiously adhered to by entire Ukranian population is one of many evidences of this, one word from Zelensky and they all stopped posting immediately, oppressed civilians my ass...



    What Russia should have done:
    If it's true that Ukraine was planning to attack Donbass Russia should have waited until they started and used that opportunity to launch mass aerial campaign to exterminate attacking VSU and spend at least a month on it until every last thing capable of using firearm was dead before committing any ground troops

    Instead they sent their soldiers to race in like some stereotypical videogame NPC into pre-prepared ambushes and get slaughtered over nothing just because some old commies in Moscow thought that 30 million Nazis would be happy to see them

    Instead of spending weeks and weeks bombing the Ukranians into the ground they decided to flush the lives of their soldiers down the toilet by sending them to the slaughter without and artillery or air support



    What is at stake now: Whatever original plan or assumptions were it turned out to be complete horseshit and Russia is now in much bigger fight than they expected to be (which came as no surprise whatsoever to everyone but them)

    Only way to achiever victory now is to keep the war going at all costs and not to stop until they reach Polish border, Ukraine can't be allowed to keep existing after this

    If they fail to do this they will lose not just this war but their own statehood, USA and EU will get the chance to finish what they didn't manage to back in the 90s



    How to win the war: They win this war just like every single war ever fought was won which is by killing the enemy

    No pussyfooting, no crying over collateral damage, no humanitarian bullshit, start killing the Ukrainian military and keep killing them until there is nothing left, when they bring in fresh troops kill them too and keep doing it until every single moron dumb enough to resist is dead

    If any ''civilian'' is still dumb enough to stay close to VSU then they are free to drop dead, they made their choice

    Kill every single Ukrainian politician that shows up under drone camera

    Not a single part of Ukraine can be allowed to stay independent otherwise EU will turn it into another West Germany and keep pouring free cash there to f*ck with Russia for decades to come




    Syria made the world fear Russian conventional military again

    This war has shredded any idea of conventional Russian deterrence down the shitter, USA and especially Europe no longer fear Russian military and prevailing line of thinking now is that if Ukraine can fight off Russia then it would be a cakewalk for NATO even without USA

    It is a disaster and is also eroding Russian nuclear deterrence: if Russia is seen as too cowardly to take out Ukraine they will also be seen as afraid to use nuclear weapons if attacked by NATO which is invitation to war



    Only way to correct this perception (and it absolutely must be corrected and fast) is to start stacking corpses and to stack them high, every single Ukrainian goon has to be killed ASAP and they need to start with that pocket in the East and then move westwards to finish the job no matter how long it takes

    Russia will not bee seen as viable military power again unless the put at least 100k Nazis into the ground and advertise it as loud as possible

    If they don't this will become Winter War 2 and I don’t need to tell you what happened as a result of that fiasco

    Pussyfooting has to end otherwise Russia will end



    Glad to have you back mate, could not agree more on all the above you have written.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:42 pm

    Scumbag hohols keep mining around children schools

    The next attack to murder citizens is coming

    But flaming says they will surrender and all will be good with lovely brothers

    He says, don't hurt them, they are too precious to kill

    Fucking peskovs all over the place getting our guys killed, already the list of those gone to rest has been released from Mariupol

    All because we listen to the ramblings of pro hohol shit

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:45 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    lancelot wrote:Flood the underground sections. Plenty of seawater close by. And a river. Hercules did it to clean the Augean stables too.

    Good idea although I wouldn't drown them. I would seal them in, and fill the basements half full so they wouldn't be able to sleep, be very cold, and half of their bodies submerged in water, they would eventually die of hypothermia or suffer similar effects of trench foot but on half of their body they would eventually die from infection. A nice fitting punishment for their neo Nazi crimes.

    They're needed for the walk of shame

    When a column of Azov and foreign merc POWs is marched down central Mariupol to booing crowds and with one of those water tankers following behind them that hoses down the road after them

    It was done in Moscow during WW2 and in Donetsk in 2014

    So no trench foot, they need to be on their feet and mobile


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:46 pm

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    This is who Flaming says we should take it easy on to surrender

    They bomb chlorine tanks, hit railway stations, massacre civilians

    And film such propaganda

    Not one should be spared, this is not a nation, nor a people

    It is an abomination

    No quarter and no mercy for this terrorism

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:48 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Img_2055

    This is who Flaming says we should take it easy on to surrender

    They bomb chlorine tanks, hit railway stations, massacre civilians

    And film such propaganda

    Not one should be spared, this is not a nation, nor a people

    It is an abomination

    No quarter and no mercy for this terrorism

    Just more actors, fakes, stunts, showmen and whatever

    The country has been seriously brainwashed by these people. But the brainwashing is wearing off

    And no civilians are to be targeted. No-one's going to tolerate Nazi tactics like that.

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    Post  par far Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:49 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:UK supplying MRAP vehicles won't be that useful in this type if conflict these will most likely be well worn ex Iraqi conflict vehicles.

    Also not sure how UK will supply Harpoon anti ship missiles, UK only uses air and ship launched versions, Ukraine has no navy or ships that can use them, same goes for air force. They would have to build from new land based version which does exist but not in UK inventory. And Ukraine would need full training on these systems.


    Most of what NATO countries are sending to Ukraine is going on the black market, there were reports that Israel and Turkey are buying that stuff with pennies.

    This whole send aid to Ukraine is a big scam, like BLM. Most of the money ends in the pockets of people that run these scams.

    Here in Canada, we have so many of those. Where I live they have a board in gas station saying we will donate, every cent per liter to Ukraine.

    I was thinking of doing something like but than I thought **** it, I never been to jail and it is not worth it for a few bucks.

    I think in 2-3 months, when living costs spike, people in the west will be less inclined to do this.

    As for NATO weapons, NATO is a money making machine for the western elites, nothing else.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:51 pm

    No but FAB 3000s should be dropped already

    They are firing manpads and staging this shit for the 47th day now

    And here clowns continue to push the lie that they will surrender and we gonna walk into the cities like heroes

    If you wanna walk in Kiev like Bojo and Clown did, then drop some FABs and guys will be welcomed as heroes

    The nazis themselves are fighting to the last man

    It's clear and obvious to anyone with eyes

    But peskov types like flaming will say, we hope this will end any day now

    The negotiations will be successful they will surrender, but we need to stop the fighting

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    Somewhere I read that in Mariupol port is find USA radioisotope detector or radioisotope analyzer, anyone have information on that?
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    Post  par far Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:53 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp5sxz10
    scratch  Really? How could such a dumbass become CEO?
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp7n7w10
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp8vxl10
    Tornado rocket

    The big question is, why is google still in Russia?

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:55 pm

    par far wrote:
    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp5sxz10
    scratch  Really? How could such a dumbass become CEO?
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp7n7w10
    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11 Fp8vxl10
    Tornado rocket

    The big question is, why is google still in Russia?

    Russias Google

    Ergo Yandex

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:58 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:No but FAB 3000s should be dropped already

    They are firing manpads and staging this shit for the 47th day now

    And here clowns continue to push the lie that they will surrender and we gonna walk into the cities like heroes

    If you wanna walk in Kiev like Bojo and Clown did, then drop some FABs and guys will be welcomed as heroes

    The nazis themselves are fighting to the last man

    It's clear and obvious to anyone with eyes

    But peskov types like flaming will say, we hope this will end any day now

    The negotiations will be successful they will surrender, but we need to stop the fighting


    There won't be any successful negotiations

    But you can't fight Nazism with Nazi methods.

    It's not a difficult concept. You have to present yourself as an alternative in all aspects, including how you fight a war.

    If it's a war of liberation then treat the civilians there as your own people, that you're liberating from occupation

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    Post  par far Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:59 pm

    "In Novotashkovsky (LPR), the corpses of Ukrainian soldiers are simply lying around in a garbage dump.

    On the one hand, there is a place for garbage. On the other hand, their own command and leadership treat them like garbage."


    https://t.me/intelslava/24860

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    Post  par far Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:00 pm

    "It became known how the Lithuanian nazi director Mantas Kvedaravichyus died in Mariupol. Russian Forces captured the man and then shot him."


    If true Nazis will be shot on the spot, capture them and parade them would be better.


    https://t.me/intelslava/24880

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