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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed May 22, 2024 2:25 pm

    Vympel wrote:It's been like three days since the Ukrainians claimed - with no evidence - that they sunk the Pr. 228000 Tsiklon with an ATACMS strike. You'd figure satellite photos would've come out by now showing this if it was true.

    Something of an apology, whenever I see someone post something in line with pro Ukrainian talking points my troll alarm goes off and so I play dirty. Under further review, and with posts like this I can see more that you are a realist and I appreciate that. So sorry for lashing out at you.

    Now back to the war, what are the latest updates on Sumy, Kharkov, and Donbass? Per RT another strategic settlement was taken yesterday.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed May 22, 2024 2:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:WTF

    https://x.com/i/status/1792812875209429008

    Well we know why Hunter got that job, but its not cocaine its Hunter Biden brand freedom powder

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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 22, 2024 3:22 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:🇺🇦🇷🇺 A destroyed M1A1SA Abrams tank near the village Berdychi.

    Seemingly equipped with Explosive Reactive Armour, otherwise, like it's sister now in Moscow, it appears to be absent protection from drones.
    Think this is the same one but for us non Telegram users

    https://x.com/i/status/1793045273691688961

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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 22, 2024 3:31 pm

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    Basically exactly what I talked about yesterday on the livestream.

    This is what Syrsky has been fighting tooth and nail to prevent for over a year. The fall of this area is the beginning of the greater Nui-York/Toretsk operation.

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    “The After the capture of the Russian Armed Forces n. Kleshcheevka and the heights (“point 233.3”) on its southern outskirts, the Ukrainian Armed Forces retreated beyond the Seversky Donets Canal along its entire length from Krasny to Kurdyumovka.”

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    The issue is that Syrsky doesn't have adequate reserves for any defensive action nor to counterattack.

    All he can do is to gradually give ground and to preserve what troops he can. He can only delay, not prevent, the inevitable.

    Ordering troops to surrender is the humane choice

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    I still doubt this has fully happend until i see every source confirm it.
    Because the entry into chavis turned out to be (mostly) false



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    Post  JohninMK Wed May 22, 2024 3:55 pm

    Ukraine refuses to exchange prisoners of war, choosing only members of the neo-N@zi group Azov.

    "I have complete lists of 500 Ukrainian POWs that Kiev has been refusing to exchange for four months. Zelensky has selected 38 people - Azov and co - and is ready to take only them"
    - Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of Russia Today.

    It's no surprise. The neo-Nazi regime only cares about neo-Nazis. Ordinary Ukrainians are hostages of the Zelensky regime.

    http://t.me/ukraine_watch

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    Post  Hole Wed May 22, 2024 4:38 pm

    Some might be old but who cares if it works OK? 
    The Akhmats and most trucks are new.

     it appears to be absent protection from drones.
    Looks like a bad day in the office.

    All he can do is to gradually give ground and to preserve what troops he can.
    Moving troops is as dangerous as hiding in cellars.
    Out in the open the ISR will catch you.
    Hiding in a cellar makes you a sitting duck.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed May 22, 2024 4:41 pm

    This echelon carries logistic units, which are rather old in every single army.
    Bundeswehr is using ponton bridges that are not able to keep floating with Leopard 2 on them.

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    Post  Mir Wed May 22, 2024 6:52 pm

    Some tourists got hit by a bus Neutral

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    Post  Mir Wed May 22, 2024 8:01 pm

    One more "wunderwaffe" on its way. Hope the water is not too choppy.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed May 22, 2024 8:40 pm

    Just saw storm shadow interception vid

    Anyone who says F35 RCS is much lower than JASSM, Taurus, Storm Shadow or Scalp is smoking crack and selling a contract

    The rate that PVO kills storm shadow gives confidence in the ability to engage stealth planes with ease

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    Post  Hole Wed May 22, 2024 9:35 pm

    Some tourists got hit by a bus
    They were heavy smokers, too.  Laughing

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    UMPB D-30SN glide bombs

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    Post  nomadski Wed May 22, 2024 9:59 pm

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1902054/uk-families-stockpile-food-water-emergency

    Brits now ready for WW3 against putin ! I have all my supplies for three days too .

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    Post  TMA1 Wed May 22, 2024 10:09 pm

    The above mentioned behavior with prisoners, the talk by the usual suspects here in the west, and the brazen and large scale use of quasiballistic and cruise missiles on direct Russian targets are all signs of desperation.

    Optics are obviously important, but the obsession with optics and narrative control here in America and the west is getting nuts. To me it does not bode well and it shows an underlying deep seated weakness. What concerns me is there are some amongst the cliques in power who seem prone to self deception and magical thinking. What scares me is that this is the kind of person who could push for insane levels of escalation even to the point of total loss of control.

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    Post  pavi Wed May 22, 2024 10:17 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:Just saw storm shadow interception vid

    Anyone who says F35 RCS is much lower than JASSM, Taurus, Storm Shadow or Scalp is smoking crack and selling a contract

    The rate that PVO kills storm shadow gives confidence in the ability to engage stealth planes with ease

    Missile does not have as sophisticated ECM suite as aeroplanes, because missiles are smaller and are designed for single use. Personally I don't believe invisible aeroplanes either. Also Israeli actions in Syria cofirms this. They do not fly inside syrian air defense buble. They avoid being shot down by operating from Lebanese airspace.

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    Su-30SM2 with R-37 M Very Happy

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu May 23, 2024 12:54 am

    Mir wrote:Some tourists got hit by a bus Neutral

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    Nah, just lawn mowers and washing machines.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu May 23, 2024 12:55 am

    Mir wrote:One more "wunderwaffe" on its way. Hope the water is not too choppy.

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    Not a miracle weapon, but probably an attempt to saturate the Panzir and TOR SAM systems at 8 km or more in order to take another S-300/400 (Krim) out of the game in a coordinated attack.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Thu May 23, 2024 1:10 am

    Mir wrote:One more "wunderwaffe" on its way. Hope the water is not too choppy.

    I'm detecting the rancid whiff of panicked desperation  Razz  Maybe the Ukies will adopt the old Fu-Go balloon bomb that the Japs tried in WW2.  They are, after all, at least as fanatical and despairing as the nips were  Twisted Evil  

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 23, 2024 5:30 am

    Not a miracle weapon, but probably an attempt to saturate the Panzir and TOR SAM systems at 8 km or more in order to take another S-300/400 (Krim) out of the game in a coordinated attack.

    I suspect troops on the decks of ships firing HMG and small arms at these drones as well as cannon fire is too effective at blowing these things up so this is an attempt to distract or do damage as they approach in the hopes of sneaking in and getting a direct hit with the main warhead.

    That flat antenna on top at the rear looks like a satellite link... maybe some new satellites of their own to hijack the link is in order.

    I am confident they will come up with ideas to make them wish they didn't do this... it is difficult to fight an enemy this stupid.
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    Post  ALAMO Thu May 23, 2024 8:27 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    They are, after all, at least as fanatical and despairing as the nips were  Twisted Evil  

    Incendiary bats and clay pot grenades are next Laughing

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    Post  crod Thu May 23, 2024 10:52 am

    Happy world turtle 🐢 day….just sayin russia

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 23, 2024 12:11 pm

    UMPB D-30SN glide bombs

    They look as aerodynamic and efficient as anything the west uses. They likely cost more than dumb bombs modified for the job but by the looks of it they are made by taking the bodies of Kh-38 missiles and making them bombs.

    The Kh-38 is essentially a 40km range rocket powered 250kg bomb with various guidance options based on the version.

    The GROM glide bomb is based on the same design with a 250kg bomb version with a rocket motor to boost effective range to over 100km or a pure glide model with the rocket fuel replaced with extra explosive power for shorter ranged use against stronger targets.

    This seems to be the application of the glide kit to the missile case to create a low drag replacement for the original dumb bombs with glide kits...

    They are just spoilt for choice are they not?

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    Post  Hole Thu May 23, 2024 12:25 pm

    That flat antenna on top at the rear looks like a satellite link.
    Looks like Starlink. Which can be jammed.
    That´s maybe the point of adding a few rockets to these boats.
    They can stay away from ships and possible jamming.
    It also seems to indicate that the Navy is getting better in detecting and destroying those
    boats.

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