Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57

Have you heard of some high ranked Ukro official detained for corruption?

Let alone US or French or British or German etc etc officials... with their multi billion dollar projects...

Corrupt men get caught in Russia and go to jail... doesn't happen in the west it seems... and not because there are no corrupt men... trying to work out what is corruption and what is business is difficult in the west because they look the same.

Basically Ukraine is going to be no more than Galicia when this thing is done.

The amusing factor is that the neutral zone the Russians are going to create is going to be the depth of their weapons of greatest reach, so giving them longer ranged weapons means less territory left that Russia can ignore...

Oh no, why so?

Running out of fresh meat...

May as well give that to Poland, as long as they agree to keep it demilitrized.

Did you have to repost that entire message to make that comment?

Equally reflect the range of these weapons from new Russian territory into Orc held territory and that is the distance the Russians would need to reach to assure these weapons can't threaten Russian territory...

Thing is, there are no "settings", you can't really throttle a solid fuel rocket motor. Once it's lit, that's it. It'll just burn uncontrollably from there on.

No adjustable throttle, but you can bake it in layers so the inner layer that burns first can be high calorie high energy fuel that accelerates the missile and gives excess energy to climb and accelerate to speed... depending on the launch speed and launch altitude will result in a certain altitude reached and a certain speed reached, and then the sustainer fuel starts burning and it essentially counters drag and allows the missile to maintain speed during its flight to the target area.

Some missiles like the new R-77 version have a final stage fuel load that is separated from the main fuel that can be ignited at any time and is used for high speed high energy terminal attack on the target.

The R-37 is not a new missile and its replacement is already being developed in the form of the Izd-815 with further improved performance.

It seems the R-37 is already kicking it though so no hurry.

Or you have a jet sustainer, which can be throttled to your heart's content.

And also the risk of a stall, but with a jet engine you can shut it down and coast to the target area and then light it back up... new generation plasma ignition seems to be able to restart jet engines in a much wider range of speeds and altitudes...

All of Ukraine needs to be taken and then de banderized throughly.

I agree, but I don't think Kiev will be able to continue to put up organised opposition for the entire campaign... at some point they will collapse and then it will become more of a humanitarian mission to ensure stability and peace while elections and referendums are sorted out.

As far as I know the S400 is not designed to counter ballistic threats.

S-400 can deal with ballistic threats up to about 4.8km per second.

The fact that they have had ATACMS for months and have only hit one or maybe two targets suggests there are specific circumstances they are exploiting... but hitting two targets a month is not going to influence the conflict or its result, and the fact that they are risking their HIMARS launchers to fire these missiles means the current advances by the Russian forces to push them back are fully justified and should continue.

The S500 should take that role. At least the battery should have been supported with shorter range assets like Pantsir and Tor systems to improve survivability.

I rather suspect they have calculated the distance at which TOR and Pantsir can hit ATACMs and that will be the distance they are getting their missile to release its submunitions. S-400 and TOR and Pantsir can all defeat ATACMS, but trying to hit hundreds of submunitions would be beyond any air defence systems.

I would say mapping out potential targets and placing BUK systems on the flight path toward said systems would likely be their best bet in that regard because the submunitions wont glide long distances...

Do that enough times until you managed to established a pattern on when the site is really manned and online, then plan your attacks.

Or create decoy emitters and decoys and set them up at every launch site and have them all emitting all the time so HATO assets can't tell which is real and which is not.

PapaDragon wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:

mnztr wrote:.....

Semi confirmation on facebook.  Per Redsamurai84, who has posted decades worth of Soviet/Russian military parades, "the commander of the 20th Combined Arms Army, Major General Suhrab Akhmedov has been relieved of his command. He was repeatedly involved in failed offensive operations with unjustified losses near Vuhledar. According to military sources, he is also accused of lying to the command staff by misleading them about the real situation on the frontlines, which allowed him to enjoy his position until now."

Called it way back when it was happening but everyone started screaming how I'm spreading ukr propaganda

Just like when I called the fuckups during first weeks of war and got permabanned for a while

You people need to learn to call bullshit on bullshit instead of coping  

If I criticized you it was because it sounded like western propaganda. I don't speak for anyone but me but ai am here and on the many great twitter feeds I have found through here because in the west we are force fed BS and propaganda. If what is being said about Akhmedov and tbe other leaders being sacked by the new minister of defense is true, and it probably is, then yeah they need to go. So for me, it wasn't so much coping but being suspicious of western "journalism" and anything that sounded like it

Arrow, Putin has been for peace talks since before the war began. That said, the Ukro puppets and their NATO puppet masters still want ultimatums and not peace, they've got profits to make off the deaths of Ukrainians. Putin wanting peace is true, the current situation? Well that would be most stupid. Ukraine has to be out out of range of the weapons NATO has given it

Remember boys and girls, arrests for corruption in Russia are evidence of rampant corruption but lack of such arrests in the precious west
means that there is no corruption. This is the logic of the western mass media over the last 30 years.

zorobabel wrote:Video of the destruction of the S-400 battery by ATACMS missiles.

https://x.com/clashreport/status/1793893686998180059

S400? Identifiable from that video?

billybatts91 wrote:Hope this isn't true...

https://x.com/Reuters/status/1793934429338976728

Its half true. Putin has wanted peace since the war began. That has been a problem. He keeps trusting thr west's word. He needs to be firm and finish this job

It matters if the system is Russian as opposed to Ukrainian.

But it is true that there is a lot of learning going on in this war.

More generals removed, again per Redsamurai84, and I am in before some dumbass in the western media calls it Putin's Purge:

"In another round of cleansing, Lieutenant General Vladimir Veretletsky, an officer for the Department of Ensuring State Orders of the Ministry of Defense has been arrested.

Veretletsky has been accused of fraud on a mass scale. Previously, he gave profitable government tenders to familiar entrepreneurs.

It is noted that he received a house and a car as a bribe."

Though to be fair, every general in Washington must be laughing because corruption and being in bed with the MIC is all that matters in regards to promotion once you get a star.

People are using a Reuters propaganda sample as a cue to evaluate Putin. Seriously?

It is rather obvious that there will be no Minsk III.