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    Decline of the western society #3

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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon May 27, 2024 3:13 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    Well raising kids and caring for relatives is its own reward. Not everything has to have monetary value to have value.
    Money only comes into play in wider society. Yet before society you have a smaller and tighter social unit; the family - for which you provide and contribute to without a currency. And in return you get the same treatment back.

    But nevertheless this analysis is from the 19th century. All modern forms of capitalism have taken aboard a bunch of social policies which exactly include providing government care for the elderly, the sick, as well as kindergardens and schools for helping parents with their kids and often some sort of child or maternal support too.

    After all the criticism is quite correct; without the kids there can no future labour and surplus value, without government care for the elderly people will have to take time off work to do it themselves, without welfare you'd have more crime-related expenses and so on.
    Of course I'm not saying it comes for free. It comes out of the taxes, and the taxes come out from the poor more than from out of the rich. But at least with such measures, capitalism has made itself a little more self-sustaining than it was before.

    Why the specific globalist capitalism you have in the West though isn't concerned with birth-rates specifically has a separate explanation. Namely, because these societies depend on immigration for providing a future work force, and for fulfilling ideological goals such as diluting nationalism among the peoples indigenous to their own territories, and thus allowing larger and more centralized unions of territory in the future such as the same EU.
    And while these countries can remain at the top of the food chain with their control of major world currencies, world banks and other financial voodoo - then they will always receive immigration so they don't have much to worry about, or so they might think.

    This is at its core a rephrasing of the "Evil Rich" nonsense that we see from our local communist.

    Here's the other reason for mass-importation, because your welfare state (that is causing most of the infertility problems) needs to be maintained else you will have a very angry populace to deal with, and you can't have that it could endanger your grand plans.
    So in order to keep power, they must import in mass in order to keep the welfare state afloat.

    Here's the issue, in the U.S you have the Mexicans, fairly manageable people with the exception of drugs and crime, but nothing that will threaten those in power.

    In Europe on the other hand, the have the Muslims, a very difficult to manage people even in their own countries, the notion that the pathetic and impotent Europeans can manage this is laughable, these people have grand plans of their own, and they will threaten the ruling powers.

    So what makes sense for the U.S, make no sense whatsoever for Europe.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue May 28, 2024 9:45 am

    flamming_python wrote:Why the specific globalist capitalism you have in the West though isn't concerned with birth-rates specifically has a separate explanation. Namely, because these societies depend on immigration for providing a future work force, and for fulfilling ideological goals such as diluting nationalism among the peoples indigenous to their own territories, and thus allowing larger and more centralized unions of territory in the future such as the same EU.
    And while these countries can remain at the top of the food chain with their control of major world currencies, world banks and other financial voodoo - then they will always receive immigration so they don't have much to worry about, or so they might think.

    Actually the author also briefly and indirectly mentioned it, too. pwnd

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    Post  kvs Yesterday at 12:43 pm

    I feel a trend in road rage. Maybe I have a sampling bias and there is no trend, but it would be consistent with the flood of "savages" (since they cannot create functioning
    societies back home) and the general mental decline of the population. Everyone is entitled and an automatic victim. Lashing out is a derivative response to any "offence" with
    such a mentality.

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