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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:37 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote: [url=https://servimg.com/view/20392554/783][img]https://i.servimg.com/u/f83/20/39/25/54/img_2355.jpg

    Ucking hell

    It's a total slaughter , they're being boiled alive

    Yeah, that was the point of this whole project thumbsup

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    Post  PhSt Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:11 am

    Expect Ukraine (with the full backing of its NATzO overlords) to fire more rockets on civilian targets across the Russian border to create the illusion of a successful counter-attack against the evil Russians Rolling Eyes

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    Post  thegopnik Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:13 am

    -Defend meaningless and or worthless town for far longer than you should have
    -Absolutely refuse to cede even an inch of ground of this village or nameless pile of dirt in the ass end of Eastern Ukraine because it would look bad on the newspaper
    -Eventually get outflanked by the advancing enemy
    -Get any roads you would use to retreat either straight up controlled by the enemy or at the very least under their fire control
    -Finally start retreating a month after everybody figured out it's a lost cause
    -Take massive casualties at very little cost to the enemy
    -Claim you actually killed a gorillion separatists/vatniks and therefore you won anyways
    0Rinse and repeat for 8 years

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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:34 am

    It is not worthless to them since they have invested everything in these bunker havens. Once Russian forces have buried them, there
    will be literally nothing to anchor the Ukr presence in the region. They will be pushed back to Kramatorsk and Solvyansk next. And
    they are running out of meat to throw at the Russians. This includes the overhyped "500,000" draft which is now being cast as in
    the 100,000 - 200,000 range. Their last three armies did not achieve much, this one will be even less effective.

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    Post  PhSt Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:52 am


    It looks like Kramatorsk and Slovyansk are the two most promising sites for a war time FOAB test attack

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:55 am

    kvs wrote:This includes the overhyped "500,000" draft which is now being cast as in
    the 100,000 - 200,000 range.    Their last three armies did not achieve much, this one will be even less effective.      

    The case with "draft" is mythical.
    Cocainsky can't name the size of his army properly.
    In Dec23 he was giving an interview, where he put the number at 660k.
    In Feb24 he gave another, where he is talking about 880k, and "a million army" at some point.
    There is no physical possibility to draft 220k men in a month, considering their social and population status.
    No fukin' way. Even if they would have hunted down any miserable creature spotted on the streets.
    For months, they were unable to resupply the ranks, and units ran at 50% and less of nominal manning.
    That reminds me of the fate of Wehrmacht in 1945, when they were reshuffling "armored divisions" on the map, while those represented less than 100 tanks and half of the manpower.
    It is crazy shit made only for money, to convince the western imbeciles that we can still change the tide.
    My private opinion is that they are even short on 660k now, I would put the number slightly over 600k.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:20 am

    Earlier, the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Budanov, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing to launch a counter-offensive in the spring, when the Russian Armed Forces “run out of steam.”

    Sounds like he is watching a different conflict...


    Certainly not a great offensive. What is happening on the front is a positional war straight from World War I, only with modern weapons, etc

    The new guy in charge has already talked about static warfare minimising losses using guerilla tactics to make Russia bleed...

    When the current tactics stop bleeding Kievs forces with their stupid frontal assaults then a counter offensive finally starts to make some sense... as long as they are not stupid attacks on fortifications or serious defence lines like Kievs forces have been doing.

    Unless this is a big offensive for you.

    Well to be fair they have taken rather more territory and killed more enemy forces than the Orcs did in their great offensive last year.

    Though that is not a high bar.


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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:28 am

    This offensive is measured by obituaries.
    The lowest weekly KIA ratio for the Russkie army since the beginning.
    And the Ukro casualty rate running around 1000 a day for weeks.
    Wonder who is making the shit better scratch Twisted Evil

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    Post  Belisarius Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:37 am

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:38 am

    Russkie FAB stock will last only till March.

    Edit : the future is now!

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:11 am

    @ALAMO

    Aren't they producing new FABs all the time?
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:36 am

    thegopnik wrote:any advances towards the direction of odessa would be great news only for the fact that they won't be hitting ships if that city is captured.

    Russians do not have the forces in ukraine for that, it will be a year plus before you hear of any possible advance in that direction
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    Post  Firebird Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:29 pm

    (originally posted in wrong thread)

    Something I wonder about is, aren't there collapse factors beyond just raw numbers of Banderites?

    Douglas McGregor talks about how an army can't just be cobbled together. It needs to have expertise in all the right areas, experienced officers and the right balance of compatible equipment. Not "a bit of Soviet, a bit of Russian made, some French, some American pieces" etc.
    I get how the poison pea Zelensky can get together a few hundred k cannon fodder. But how does he replace officers, technical specialists etc? And all the necessary COMPATIBLE equipment that GAYTO inevitably can't always supply.

    In other words, isn't the Bandera regime overdue a collapse, even if there are 500k cannon fodder left etc? Does anyone have any predictions on when it will end?

    And why hasn't Russia been successful in some form of pro Russian coup attempt? In fact, it seems it hasn't even tried.

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    Post  lancelot Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:47 pm

    Firebird wrote:And why hasn't Russia been successful in some form of pro Russian coup attempt? In fact, it seems it hasn't even tried.
    Ukrainians are a quite prideful people. The notion that this conflict is just being orchestrated by a couple of Banderites is just wrong. Much like with Nazi Germany quite a lot of people in Ukraine gobble up this bullshit.
    Erradicating it from their social makeup will take a significant amount of effort.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:00 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    Firebird wrote:And why hasn't Russia been successful in some form of pro Russian coup attempt? In fact, it seems it hasn't even tried.
    Ukrainians are a quite prideful people. The notion that this conflict is just being orchestrated by a couple of Banderites is just wrong. Much like with Nazi Germany quite a lot of people in Ukraine gobble up this bullshit.
    Erradicating it from their social makeup will take a significant amount of effort.
    Denazification of Ukraine will be aided by the fact that in case of Russian takeover the most nationalistic parts of the country will leave Ukraine anyway.

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    Post  Firebird Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:13 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    Firebird wrote:And why hasn't Russia been successful in some form of pro Russian coup attempt? In fact, it seems it hasn't even tried.
    Ukrainians are a quite prideful people. The notion that this conflict is just being orchestrated by a couple of Banderites is just wrong. Much like with Nazi Germany quite a lot of people in Ukraine gobble up this bullshit.
    Erradicating it from their social makeup will take a significant amount of effort.

    Well after decades of American propaganda and oligarchs with a vested interest in a Ukraine as "their own empire" it was still broadly 50-50.

    50% of the place was then banned from voting. But violence ensured Banderites DID take over key organs of power eg military, secret police, judicial, much of the police, strategically placed mayors etc. I'd say up to 25 % Banderite and similar (often there weren't Banderite candidates but Banderites in power positions eg Central Ukraine), 25% pro EU Eurofag scum... largely misguided if not outright hateful. The other 50% either got gagged, harrassed, tricked or left the country. 13 political parties were banned, along with 3 major Ru language TV stations.

    In other words, it was force that put the Pukraine where it is today. Yet strangely Russia didn't use force against it. Putin's earlier view was "you must stand up". But how do people do that if they are having to fight an enemy that is being hugely assisted by the Americans and Euro-filth?

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:55 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    Ukrainians are a quite prideful people. The notion that this conflict is just being orchestrated by a couple of Banderites is just wrong. Much like with Nazi Germany quite a lot of people in Ukraine gobble up this bullshit.
    Erradicating it from their social makeup will take a significant amount of effort.

    It is quite easy to catch the fish if you have proper bait.
    What is an issue with Ukrainians per se, is the fact that they can't distinguish the difference between personal freedom and living in an organized society.
    Every single Ukrainian I know has an issue with that.
    On one hand, they are telling the stories of how "free" they were in Ukraine.
    What is the funny part, is what they define as "freedom".
    Well ... it was doing whatever they desired, no matter how harmful to the others it could have been.
    If you want to make a party, in the middle of the night, and sing shitty songs at full throttle - it is your "freedom".
    If you wanted to have your house reconstructed, why take an architect, follow construction procedures, and get permission? You just bribe the inspector and do whatever you want. It is "freedom".
    If you can't pass a driving license test, just go and buy it. It is "freedom".
    On the other hand, they do recognize the difference in social development. How the society works. How the state operates. They are usually jealous of that, not seeing why they are such a shithole.
    They have lived in a shithole that denied any definition of modern state, yet were sodomized daily of how "free" they are.
    This is not a new construction, it is what happens to the USA.
    They became a denial of democracy and a state of order in a period of half a lifetime, yet are being programmed to how fantastic they are.
    US is fantastic because it has freedom and democracy.
    Even if they lack both freedom and democracy for years.


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    Post  franco Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:58 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from February 11 to February 16, 2024)

    In the period from February 11 to February 16 this year, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 30 group strikes with precision weapons, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles, as a result of which enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine engaged in the production and repair of aircraft engines, electronic equipment and ammunition were hit.

    In addition, factories producing fuel and lubricants for the AFU equipment, warehouses of military-technical property, as well as locations of units of the armed forces of Ukraine and nationalist formations were hit.

    In the Kupyansk direction, during the week, units of the "Western" group of troops occupied more advantageous positions and repelled 18 attacks by assault groups of the 25th Airborne, 30th, 32nd, 43rd, 44th, 60th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 103rd Air Defense Brigade in populated areas the settlements of Sinkovka, Tabaevka, Timkovka of the Kharkiv region and Terny of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    In addition, the enemy's manpower was defeated in the areas of the settlements of Novoselovskoye of the Luhansk People's Republic, Kislovka and Berestovoye of the Kharkiv region.

    The enemy's losses during the specified period amounted to over 775 soldiers, two tanks, seven armored combat vehicles, 17 vehicles, as well as five field artillery guns.

    In the Krasnolimansk direction, units of the Center group of troops improved their position along the front edge, in cooperation with aviation and artillery, repelled 14 enemy attacks.

    Also, units of the 24th, 60th and 63rd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Chervonaya Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic, Yampolovka and Torskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    Over the past week, the enemy has lost over 1,585 soldiers killed and wounded in this area, four tanks, 44 armored combat vehicles, 82 vehicles, as well as three field artillery guns.

    In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" grouping of troops occupied more advantageous lines and positions, repelled 46 enemy attacks in the areas of the settlements of Belogorovka, Bogdanovka, Kleshcheyevka, Krasnoe, Leninskoye, Novomikhailovka and Shumy of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    In addition, units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Kurdyumovka, Andreevka, Georgievka and Katerinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    The total losses of the enemy in this direction amounted to more than 1,820 military personnel, 11 tanks, 14 armored combat vehicles, 84 vehicles, as well as 25 field artillery guns.

    In the South Donetsk direction, the units of the Vostok group of troops improved their position along the front edge and with coordinated actions repelled three enemy attacks.

    Also, units of the 58th Infantry, 72nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 127th and 128th air Defense brigades were defeated in the areas of the settlements of Vladimirovka, Urozhodnoye, Vodiane of the Donetsk People's Republic and Priyutnoye of the Zaporozhye region.

    The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 1,060 soldiers, two tanks, ten armored combat vehicles, 23 vehicles, as well as 12 field artillery guns.

    In the Kherson direction, Russian troops, with air strikes and artillery fire, defeated the manpower and equipment of the 35th Marine Brigade, the 121st Air Defense Brigade and the 23rd Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Tyaginka, Mikhaylovka, Ivanovka, Yantarnoye of the Kherson region and Nikopol of the Dnipropetrovsk region.

    The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 310 servicemen, a tank, two armored combat vehicles, 23 vehicles, as well as 14 field artillery guns.

    Over the past week, aviation and air defense equipment shot down: a MiG-29 aircraft and a Mi-24 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force, intercepted 36 multiple rocket launchers "HIMARS", "Vampire" and "Alder", one guided aerial bomb "JDAM", and destroyed 405 unmanned aerial vehicles.

    During the week, 35 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 571 aircraft, 266 helicopters, 12571 unmanned aerial vehicles, 469 anti-aircraft missile systems, 15060 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1221 multiple rocket launchers, 8067 field artillery and mortars, as well as 18747 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12500741@egNews

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:07 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:@ALAMO

    Aren't they producing new FABs all the time?

    It is sarcasm

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:13 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:@ALAMO

    Aren't they producing new FABs all the time?

    It is sarcasm

    I wasn't sure so I decided to reply anyway.
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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:18 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Part of the issue that leads to complacency and these results  is that the Russians are too rational. "Why would they waste resources on attacking an old ship whose purpose and capabilities are completely irrelevant to this conflict?"

    Same thing with the Tarantul a while back.

    Thing is, in lieu of battlefield successes, this is what UA does. They'll attempt to assassinate some irrelevant figure whose life or death has absolutely zero impact on the war, or they'll conduct a symbolic strike such as these on irrelevant military targets that do not expect it, because why would they?

    Russia has been quick to adapt to most things, but it hasn't in this case.


    Now, Navalny mysteriously died while on a supervised walk. Not suggesting anything, but still suspicious.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:22 pm

    The cause of death is even more coincidental.
    A blood cloak.
    Which can be artificially created.
    At any desired moment.

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    ERA applied to the Wunderwaffe didn't help much it seems ...

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    Post  franco Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:19 pm

    Had apparently demanded Western Covid vaccines only... No

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    Post  Hole Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:30 pm

    It's a total slaughter , they're being boiled alive
    This is how you do it.  Twisted Evil

    A blood cloak.
    Did he receive a western Covid vaccine?

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:49 pm

    So Masha 2% is dead. I remember how people were saying he was gonna die in jail. All westerners wanted it. So they got their wish. No reap sheding of tears in Russia for him. And no one cares about the west and what they say.

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