Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

Belisarius wrote:In Germany, the Bild publication announced that the PzH 2000 self-propelled guns have fallen into the hands of the military of the Russian Armed Forces

https://en.topwar.ru/198527-nemeckoe-izdanie-soobschaet-o-popadanii-sau-pzh-2000-v-ruki-rossijskih-voennyh.html

Captured... or sold? I think they were sold, hohols will be hohols.

Broski wrote:

Of course Russia has to take it all, but only incorporate Novorossiya into the Russian Federation. The rest will be a Russian Protectorate (rump state) denazified and demilitarized forever. Polish border with Ukraine needs to be staffed with only Russian & Belarusian military personnel as Hohols can't be trusted to keep NATO mercs and terrorists out. 

Don't give Poland one square inch as they'll simply turn whatever part they occupy into a 'Kosovo' to stage provocations and terrorist attacks against the rest of Ukraine and even potentially Russia itself. This operation needs to be done properly, If it takes 5 or 10 years like Syria (unlikely), so be it. 

As for neutrality? Ukraine had its chance, in fact, they were given 30+ years to rule themselves and look where that lead them to. There's no such thing as a neutral or sovereign Ukraine anymore than a neutral Sweden or Finland, it simply doesn't exist. They're either Russia's bitch or NATO's bitch, we know which one is more preferable.

Taking all of the fake state will also be the resolution for those released Azov members. Soon most of them will find themselves in areas liberated by the Russian Armed Forces which means prosecutors will start proceedings and the police will arrest them for their past crimes.

Ispan wrote:Special report, news, info and food for thought

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/noticias-de-la-guerra-03-07-2022-informe-especial/

Not in English

ArgentinaGuard wrote:It does not have much to do with the subject but I am telling you that we are in a war with global consequences. In Argentina, the Minister of Economy resigned and the country is on the verge of hyperinflation. Probably there will be a social explosion in the coming months. If the government survives, it will lose the elections against an opposition that is openly pro-American.

And the pro-US party has magical jobs and money to give to the people ?

They will do just as shitty as this government. Globalization made that countries depend on banks and few big companies. Small and medium vusinesses as well as familial ones are getting destroyed everywhere.

The only winner was china that used to make things very cheap but even chinese want quality now but there are no ressources for every one yet every one wants to fly around the world, not work, take pictures and make the same dumb youtube videos as the thousand guy that did them before them and get rich with that.

This the american dream.

They destroyed the world. Middle classes can't live even with a good job that is no more secured as before because they give diplomas like little breads to anyone who goes to college. Everything is fucked.

This has nothing yo do with Ukraine which was irrevelent to world trade and economy before the war. It's just that the west uses it as an excuse to show the real state of tge world economy to the people and blame russians for it.

Belisarius wrote:M777 gets a direct hit in the Nikolaev area.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13417

Unconfirmed reports that AFU retreated from Seversk.
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13414

Soon they will make a "tactical retreat" towards Warsaw.

mnztr wrote:

Backman wrote:

https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1543579352666890241?s=20&t=mP9ez_AJYxB5uj-EwCDoTg

where are the SU-25s and KA-52s to mow then down as they withdraw? They are just gonna allow them to reinforce the next line? WTF?

How do you know that they weren't mowed down and chewed up?? The footage is only shown of when they are fleeing like the rats that they are, LISICHANSK is covered from all sides, but as them nazi rats started to run out in the beginning as allied forces pushed deeper, all out going routes to the west were flanked from the north and south, atgms, uavs, surveillance, SF, aviation and attack helicopters are all in the area, covering all exits.

Just remember when reports come out, unless it is live reporting, everything is in past tense. So don't just presume nothing is happening. Because I can guarantee you, what is shown is barely measured in single digits compared to what is actually happening that we don't know of.

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Regular wrote:Ukraine again, called Russian bluff and keep shelling Russian civilian territory.

Only munitions shortage will stop them from that.

The territory of Israel is shelled almost daily. Does this mean that Israel is a joke?

Yes it is. British made joke from the start.

Stealthflanker wrote:Looks to me like a real incentive for gaining more land.  Can't get into range of Tochkas if Russians occupying all the land where they can take firing position.  

It's just gonna take alot of time.

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Counter battery is gonna be hard tho due to mobility nature of the Tochka, and it can even swim too. much better than Saddam's Scud and much quicker launch preparation too.

The number of operational Tochka-U systems has a half-life. People may not be happy with how fast they are eliminated, but they are not going to be
around forever.

Assault on Seversk has already begun it seems like.

Yeah. Some people claimed there would be an operational pause after Lisichansk, but why stop when you´re rolling.