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    Post  Broski Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:29 pm

    Belisarius wrote:🇩🇪In Germany, the Bild publication announced that the PzH 2000 self-propelled guns have fallen into the hands of the military of the Russian Armed Forces

    https://en.topwar.ru/198527-nemeckoe-izdanie-soobschaet-o-popadanii-sau-pzh-2000-v-ruki-rossijskih-voennyh.html
    Captured... or sold? I think they were sold, hohols will be hohols.

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    Post  Ispan Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:30 pm

    Special report, news, info and food for thought

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/noticias-de-la-guerra-03-07-2022-informe-especial/

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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:15 pm

    Broski wrote:

    Of course Russia has to take it all, but only incorporate Novorossiya into the Russian Federation. The rest will be a Russian Protectorate (rump state) denazified and demilitarized forever. Polish border with Ukraine needs to be staffed with only Russian & Belarusian military personnel as Hohols can't be trusted to keep NATO mercs and terrorists out. 

    Don't give Poland one square inch as they'll simply turn whatever part they occupy into a 'Kosovo' to stage provocations and terrorist attacks against the rest of Ukraine and even potentially Russia itself. This operation needs to be done properly, If it takes 5 or 10 years like Syria (unlikely), so be it. 

    As for neutrality? Ukraine had its chance, in fact, they were given 30+ years to rule themselves and look where that lead them to. There's no such thing as a neutral or sovereign Ukraine anymore than a neutral Sweden or Finland, it simply doesn't exist. They're either Russia's bitch or NATO's bitch, we know which one is more preferable.

    Taking all of the fake state will also be the resolution for those released Azov members. Soon most of them will find themselves in areas liberated by the Russian Armed Forces which means prosecutors will start proceedings and the police will arrest them for their past crimes.
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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:29 pm

    Ispan wrote:Special report, news, info and food for thought

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/07/03/noticias-de-la-guerra-03-07-2022-informe-especial/

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    Post  Belisarius Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:37 pm

    Fights for Seversk have begun - Vitaly Kiselev, assistant to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the LPR
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13412

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:14 pm

    Regarding the incident with the attack on Belgorod, Kursk and Melitopol - in fact, all the missiles were intercepted by the Russian air defense, the destruction with casualties in Belgorod was caused by the fall of the wreckage of the downed Tochka-U missile. If this missile had reached the target, there would have been much more destruction and casualties (you can recall the strike on Donetsk or the railway station in Kramatorsk - there were dozens of victims and hundreds of wounded).

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:42 pm

    It does not have much to do with the subject but I am telling you that we are in a war with global consequences. In Argentina, the Minister of Economy resigned and the country is on the verge of hyperinflation. Probably there will be a social explosion in the coming months. If the government survives, it will lose the elections against an opposition that is openly pro-American.

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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:43 pm

    Ukraine again, called Russian bluff and keep shelling Russian civilian territory.

    Only munitions shortage will stop them from that.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:54 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:It does not have much to do with the subject but I am telling you that we are in a war with global consequences. In Argentina, the Minister of Economy resigned and the country is on the verge of hyperinflation. Probably there will be a social explosion in the coming months. If the government survives, it will lose the elections against an opposition that is openly pro-American.

    And the pro-US party has magical jobs and money to give to the people ?

    They will do just as shitty as this government. Globalization made that countries depend on banks and few big companies. Small and medium vusinesses as well as familial ones are getting destroyed everywhere.

    The only winner was china that used to make things very cheap but even chinese want quality now but there are no ressources for every one yet every one wants to fly around the world, not work, take pictures and make the same dumb youtube videos as the thousand guy that did them before them and get rich with that.

    This the american dream.

    They destroyed the world. Middle classes can't live even with a good job that is no more secured as before because they give diplomas like little breads to anyone who goes to college. Everything is fucked.

    This has nothing yo do with Ukraine which was irrevelent to world trade and economy before the war. It's just that the west uses it as an excuse to show the real state of tge world economy to the people and blame russians for it.

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    Post  Belisarius Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:10 pm

    M777 gets a direct hit in the Nikolaev area.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13417

    Unconfirmed reports that AFU retreated from Seversk.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13414

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:36 pm

    Isos wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:It does not have much to do with the subject but I am telling you that we are in a war with global consequences. In Argentina, the Minister of Economy resigned and the country is on the verge of hyperinflation. Probably there will be a social explosion in the coming months. If the government survives, it will lose the elections against an opposition that is openly pro-American.

    And the pro-US party has magical jobs and money to give to the people ?

    They will do just as shitty as this government. Globalization made that countries depend on banks and few big companies. Small and medium vusinesses as well as familial ones are getting destroyed everywhere.

    The only winner was china that used to make things very cheap but even chinese want quality now but there are no ressources for every one yet every one wants to fly around the world, not work, take pictures and make the same dumb youtube videos as the thousand guy that did them before them and get rich with that.

    This the american dream.

    They destroyed the world. Middle classes can't live even with a good job that is no more secured as before because they give diplomas like little breads to anyone who goes to college. Everything is fucked.

    This has nothing yo do with Ukraine which was irrevelent to world trade and economy before the war. It's just that the west uses it as an excuse to show the real state of tge world economy to the people and blame russians for it.


    No way. The Argentine crisis has its origin in the taking of debt of the International Monetary Fund that the previous president made.
    Argentina has to make a military coup and call a nationalist leader, destroy the liberal democratic system that is a farce.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:54 pm

    Backman wrote:

    where are the SU-25s and KA-52s to mow then down as they withdraw? They are just gonna allow them to reinforce the next line? WTF?

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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:56 pm

    Belisarius wrote:M777 gets a direct hit in the Nikolaev area.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13417

    Unconfirmed reports that AFU retreated from Seversk.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/13414

    Soon they will make a "tactical retreat" towards Warsaw. Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:25 pm

    i had no idea he was born in ukraine around the kherson region, surprise he has not used his celebrity influence to talk about the war.







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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:27 pm

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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:39 pm

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    Post  psg Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:52 pm

    mnztr wrote:
    Backman wrote:

    where are the SU-25s and KA-52s to mow then down as they withdraw? They are just gonna allow them to reinforce the next line? WTF?

    How do you know that they weren't mowed down and chewed up?? The footage is only shown of when they are fleeing like the rats that they are, LISICHANSK is covered from all sides, but as them nazi rats started to run out in the beginning as allied forces pushed deeper, all out going routes to the west were flanked from the north and south, atgms, uavs, surveillance, SF, aviation and attack helicopters are all in the area, covering all exits.

    Just remember when reports come out, unless it is live reporting, everything is in past tense. So don't just presume nothing is happening. Because I can guarantee you, what is shown is barely measured in single digits compared to what is actually happening that we don't know of.

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:52 pm

    Regular wrote:Ukraine again, called Russian bluff and keep shelling Russian civilian territory.

    Only munitions shortage will stop them from that.

    The territory of Israel is shelled almost daily. Does this mean that Israel is a joke?

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:56 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    Regular wrote:Ukraine again, called Russian bluff and keep shelling Russian civilian territory.

    Only munitions shortage will stop them from that.

    The territory of Israel is shelled almost daily. Does this mean that Israel is a joke?

    Yes it is. British made joke from the start. Very Happy

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:07 pm

    Looks to me like a real incentive for gaining more land. Can't get into range of Tochkas if Russians occupying all the land where they can take firing position.

    It's just gonna take alot of time.

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    Counter battery is gonna be hard tho due to mobility nature of the Tochka, and it can even swim too. much better than Saddam's Scud and much quicker launch preparation too.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:43 pm

    Stealthflanker wrote:Looks to me like a real incentive for gaining more land.  Can't get into range of Tochkas if Russians occupying all the land where they can take firing position.  

    It's just gonna take alot of time.

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    Counter battery is gonna be hard tho due to mobility nature of the Tochka, and it can even swim too. much better than Saddam's Scud and much quicker launch preparation too.

    The number of operational Tochka-U systems has a half-life. People may not be happy with how fast they are eliminated, but they are not going to be
    around forever.

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    Post  Regular Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:52 pm

    Scorpius wrote:
    Regular wrote:Ukraine again, called Russian bluff and keep shelling Russian civilian territory.

    Only munitions shortage will stop them from that.

    The territory of Israel is shelled almost daily. Does this mean that Israel is a joke?

    Yes. It's a joke. But their military response is insane... Russia would decapitate Ukraine if they would follow their example... And they can

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:54 pm

    Assault on Seversk has already begun it seems like.

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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:04 pm

    Yeah. Some people claimed there would be an operational pause after Lisichansk, but why stop when you´re rolling. Very Happy

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:16 pm

    https://t.me/asbmil/2610

    [ Video ]
    Russian military use the latest Izdeliye-305E Multipurpose guided missile in Ukraine.

    The high-precision munition flew into the window of the AFU facility. The video was shown at a briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry.

    The missile has a mass of 105 kg, a length of almost 2 m and a body diameter of 200 mm.

    🔹The missile can be used at a distance of up to 14.5 kilometers, flight speed - 230 m / s, flight altitude from 100 to 600 m.

    The missile has a combined inertial-satellite and round-the-clock thermal imaging homing head.

    🔹 Control and management of it is carried out using AS-UAV equipment. Throughout the flight, the missile can be guided by the operator's commands.

    The AS-UAV complex allows you to maintain communication at a distance of up to 50 km and has a bandwidth of 5.4 Mbps.

    🔹The missile is fired from the Mi-28NM and Ka-52M attack helicopters, but the new version can also be installed on the Su-25SM.

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