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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #53

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:52 am

    A busy day in Kiev today as former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Belgian Prime Minister Alexander de Croo, as well as the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen gather there.

    Perhaps a good time to strike the fast rail line from Kiev to the border, forcing them to take the slow train home and ruining their schedules.

    No lives lost and a point made.

    EDIT: Not safe in the city?

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    Post  franco Sat Feb 24, 2024 11:41 am

    Good Russian based read and analysis of the Ukrainian military campaign. Article broken into the 4 sections highlighted at the bottom.

    Collapse of Operation Citadel 2.0

    Konstantin Sivkov

    Vice President of the Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences for Information Policy, Doctor of Military Sciences

    The goals of the Ukrainian army’s offensive in the summer of 2023 and the size of combat groups formed to carry it out are to a certain extent comparable with what the German military fielded for its Operation Citadel in 1943. This gives us the grounds for calling Kiev’s offensive in the summer of 2023 Operation Citadel 2.0.

    Considering its military-political consequences, the collapse of Citadel 2.0 meant not simply the Ukrainian army’s military-strategic defeat but also the collapse of the consolidated West’s hybrid blitzkrieg.

    We can state boldly that the so-called counteroffensive attempted by the Ukrainian military in the summer of 2023 was an event against whose background all the other developments could hardly attract so much attention. This is not surprising because this counteroffensive was of key significance in the standoff between the West and Russia as its outcome largely shaped not only the situation in the special military operation area, Russia and Ukraine but also trends of the changing global situation.

    Therefore, it is quite natural that all leading media outlets paid much attention to the fronts of the special military operation, giving details of the tactical situation in key frontline areas. However, open sources of information have not yet offered an operational-strategic analysis of this key event of the past year at least in broad outline. This analysis is, perhaps, available in special classified literature, though, but is inaccessible to the public at large. That is why, this requires an operational-strategic review of the events that took place in the summer of 2023 in open media sources as this effort is vital for our people to understand their scope and significance. Aside from the operational-strategic aspect proper, we should pay attention to military-political implications of these developments. It is quite natural that we can hardly make such a detailed analysis within one article and, therefore, we will focus on the most important aspects showing the dimension and significance of these events.

    Ukrainian army’s formidable attack force

    Russia’s unprecedented defenses since World War II

    Duel of Russian and Western military schools

    Global consequence of Operation Citadel 2.0 collapse

    FULL ARTICLE: https://tass.com/defense/1750919

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    Post  franco Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:04 pm

    Arrow wrote:https://www.globalaffairs.ru/articles/ot-speczialnoj-k-voennoj/

    Good analysis after two years of war.

    English version: https://bmpd-livejournal-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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    Post  kvs Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:27 pm

    That Wiki hit piece on Karlin is a gem of Orwellian excrement. Ron Unz is a Jew. I guess Jews become antisemitic if they do not sing from the NATzO choir sheet. Also, Karlin is likely a Jew himself. All these Jewish Russian nationalists, what a joke. Like the black white supremacists in the USA.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Feb 24, 2024 2:08 pm

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    VDV reached the center of Rabotino

    Now they are advancing from the eastern heights on to level the front

    Nice moves there

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Feb 24, 2024 3:53 pm

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    Frontline leveled, 50% of the town is in Russias hands

    Moving on

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:23 pm

    In a major investigation, the independent media portals "Medusa" and "Mediazona" have estimated the number of Russian soldiers killed so far in Moscow's war against Ukraine at 75,000. ""120 To team Day - this is the price that Russia pays for the raid on the neighboring country," the Russian portal "Medusa" reported. Officially, neither of the two warring parties provides information about killed soldiers in their own rules.

    The investigative journalists said that they had determined their results, etc., from the evaluation of the database for inheritance matters, from the death register and statistical data, as well as from information from survivors. "This is not an exact figure, this is a statistical estimate," it said. The gray world can move between 66,000 and 88,000 fallen.
    German News Portal n-tv

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    As always, a "0" at the back is missing from the data of the Ukrainian losses. A rare news that appears there in Germany.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:30 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:In a major investigation, the independent media portals "Medusa" and "Mediazona" have estimated the number of Russian soldiers killed so far in Moscow's war against Ukraine at 75,000. ""120 To team Day - this is the price that Russia pays for the raid on the neighboring country," the Russian portal "Medusa" reported. Officially, neither of the two warring parties provides information about killed soldiers in their own rules.

    The investigative journalists said that they had determined their results, etc., from the evaluation of the database for inheritance matters, from the death register and statistical data, as well as from information from survivors. "This is not an exact figure, this is a statistical estimate," it said. The gray world can move between 66,000 and 88,000 fallen.
    German News Portal n-tv

    ...
    As always, a "0" at the back is missing from the data of the Ukrainian losses. A rare news that appears there in Germany.

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    scratch scratch scratch

    I wonder if you are double checking your own posts ?

    What is funny is that they claim not to use LDNR numbers in the count

    But we have already found fighters from LDNR brigades included there

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    Post  Sprut-B Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:42 pm

    ALAMO wrote:In Desert Storm, friendly fire accounted for a QUARTER of losses, by official numbers.
    Go and get some clue, Arma chief&generals ...

    The problem is that there aren't a lot of these planes. Maybe only 4 or 5 left with the military. This is a serious loss for the Russian military.

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    Post  kvs Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:49 pm

    The Mediazone extrapolation of 75,000 is absurd. They were only able to identify under 40,000 losses last fall. So Russia has lost
    almost the same number of men during the last 5 months? What utter intellectual excrement. Mediazona's own daily loss figures
    showed a decline this winter.

    The Avdeevka operation was nowhere near as costly as Bakhmut and that one was not on the scale of Ukr meat grinder losses.

    So the real figure for Russian losses is still around 50,000.

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:01 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:

    The problem is that there aren't a lot of these planes. Maybe only 4 or 5 left with the military. This is a serious loss for the Russian military.

    Once again, we don't know which plane exactly.

    Second, Russia would then have 19 of these planes left.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:06 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    Sprut-B wrote:

    The problem is that there aren't a lot of these planes. Maybe only 4 or 5 left with the military. This is a serious loss for the Russian military.

    Once again, we don't know which plane exactly.

    Second, Russia would then have 19 of these planes left.

    Pro-Russian sources have confirmed
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    Post  Sprut-B Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:08 pm



    Ukromacht is totally depleted in the Robotyne sector, so much so that Russian deployment in the Robotyne looks like a stroll in a park....  All thanks to heavy FAB strikes

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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:27 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:

    Pro-Russian sources have confirmed

    Ok, clearly I'm speaking with room temp.

    So pro Russian sources say.  Also, other pro Russian sources say it was an Il-78TD  to which I posted earlier.

    So, you are saying you are 100% correct?  What tail number was it? Where was it based out of?

    Your pro Russian sources even didn't give you proper info of how many of these fly for Russia, these A-50's.

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t9059p925-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-53#453370

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t9059p925-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-53#453381

    So even if it was an A-50, then exactly how many they got left? I'll wait till you consult your pro Russian sources

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:03 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:

    The problem is that there aren't a lot of these planes. Maybe only 4 or 5 left with the military. This is a serious loss for the Russian military.

    I'm not quite sure what you even addressing to dunno ?
    The previous case claimed loud&medial turned out t be a FF accident against Il-22 that returned to the airfield with a damaged tail.
    No A-50 involved.
    The current event seems to be another FF case, with Il-76 involved.
    Not A-50.
    So we are discussing nonexistent events, do you realize that? dunno scratch

    Edit : this reminds me how the first case of "downing A-50 over Azov Sea" was pumped into ukro propaganda shitstream.
    There was only one more funny case when they discussed submarines operating there.
    Azov Sea is 14m deep in its deepest spot.
    FOURTEEN.


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    Post  sepheronx Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:04 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    I'm not quite sure what you even addressing to dunno ?
    The previous case claimed loud&medial turned out t be a FF accident against Il-22 that returned to the airfield with a damaged tail.
    No A-50 involved.
    The current event seems to be another FF case, with Il-76 involved.
    Not A-50.
    So we are discussing nonexistent events, do you realize that? dunno scratch

    But pro Russian sources told him.....

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