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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:01 am

    What does "call Volga" mean?
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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:45 am

    PapaDragon wrote:What does "call Volga" mean?

    If I recall correctly, its the call sign Russia has given Ukrainians who don't want to go to see Uncle Adolf and Grandpa Bandera to lay down their arms and surrender.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:58 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    This navy has been delivering deadly strikes for two years in a row,..
    with many CMs shot down, & lately those ships carrying them had to leave their Seavastopol & Feodosia bases for safety.
    ..the houthi ones that have effectively crippled 2 carrier groups..
    only 1 CVN is there, & it's conducting airstrikes almost daily, while its escorts shooting down UAVs & BMs.
    Actually after seeing that garage built missile penetrate Aegis and get into CIWS range
    It's possible they decided to use the CIWIS instead of more expencive SAMs; in any case, it performed well.
    The USN also has a SSGN there with 154 LACMs, while the BSF has only 5-6 SSKs that must use torpedo tubes to launch theirs.

    The uss Ford was likely withdrawn as its the shiny new ship and getting your brand new carrier that will be the model for US carrier supremecy for the next 60-70 years get plonked in its first real battle is not good optics. Its rumored that Hezbollah has one P-800 missile they obtained from Syria. Probably saving it for an especially juicy target.
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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:47 am

    https://t.me/c/2045555618/1540

    Nice footage, Zaporozhye

    It seems that while all attention is on Avdeevka

    The most intense combat is happening right now along Zaporozhye region

    Russian troops are assaulting, but the combat here is much different then it is in Avdeevka

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:34 am

    mnztr wrote:The uss Ford was likely withdrawn as its the shiny new ship and getting your brand new carrier that will be the model for US carrier supremecy for the next 60-70 years get plonked in its first real battle is not good optics. Its rumored that Hezbollah has one P-800 missile they obtained from Syria. Probably saving it for an especially juicy target.
    the CVN-78 deployment was extended 3 times, & it was due to be relieved by the CVN-69, so it's presence in the Red Sea wasn't essential in that conflict. It's also true that they didn't want to subject the newst CVN to unnecessary risks. The US used its B-1Bs & Florida SSGN to conduct strikes, besides the carrier based F-18s.
    https://www.newsweek.com/russia-putin-artillery-nato-superior-1867821

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/18/a-ukrainian-cruise-missile-with-a-special-warhead-blew-up-that-russian-submarine-from-the-inside/?sh=6f5acfd5efd5
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/02/06/france-has-extra-mirage-fighter-bombers-ukraine-wants-them-a-deal-is-possible/?sh=67edf08697c0

    https://youtu.be/CDZ8J3UK7FQ


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    Post  Scorpius Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:03 am

    PapaDragon wrote:What does "call Volga" mean?

    Humanitarian frequency for surrender and transfer to our side
    At the bottom:
    49.200
    149.200
    At the top:
    449.200
    Password/the call sign is "Volga"

    To call, to wait for a response, to provide your coordinates or to describe the location, quantity, division, condition. Follow the instructions strictly!
    https://vk.com/wall-46943161_1563671

    https://mo.tsargrad.tv/news/vyzyvajte-volgu-russkie-voennye-zarezervirovali-radiochastotu-dlja-sdajushhihsja-ukraincev_833254

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    Post  Scorpius Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:07 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/c/2045555618/1540
    Your message cannot be viewed. Do you see the /c label in the link? This means that you copied the link to the local chat, making it invalid for anyone who is not in the community from which you took the source. Never copy the link to the comments section if you want someone to see the information on your links.

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    Post  PhSt Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:27 am

    https://t.me/zoka200/20555

    I dont know which type of bombs were used by the Russians, but they need to put more resources to improve the accuracy of their munitions. The strike would have been spectacular if the objects were directly hit. Also, this kind of miss gives propaganda points to anti Russian trolls.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:29 am

    A day as usual for ukro propaganda ...

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/112134

    Called "sabotage at the missile factory in Votkinsk" turns out to be a scheduled process of burning missile fuel. Locals admit that things like that are well known to them.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:55 am

    Confirmation so last comment on that explosion. A reason why those tests are down at the plant outside the town.

    7 Feb, 20:46

    MOSCOW, February 7. /TASS/.

    The explosion near Izhevsk, seen on video footage that spread on social media and Telegram channels, was caused by a planned rocket engine test, the Zavyalovsky District united dispatch service told TASS.

    "We received a notification from the Votkinsk Machine Building Plant. It was a rocket engine test. A planned event, not an emergency," the dispatch service said.

    https://tass.com/world/1743241

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    Post  RTN Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:34 am

    Russian Air Defense failing to intercept Storm Shadow

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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:09 pm

    evacuating Avdeevka through dirt fields towards Severne
    Good choice. That town is the next in line. thumbsup

    god forbid they ever are targeted by a Kinzhal or a Zircon
    Maybe a Russian plane or ship could deliver... I mean accidentally lose a few modern missiles
    while travelling along in Yemen. Suspect Very Happy

    The last series was especially strong, perhaps more than 500s - more like 1500s
    Waiting for FAB-3000s. bounce

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    Post  GarryB Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:29 pm

    I know their mentality- they don't like to throw away something that may be useful, in their minds, even if with a lot of shortcomings, esp. after losing 2 large ships.

    Even in its likely current state (ie with no further damage) it is probably going to cost rather more to get operational and take up too much space and too many resources to get working than is worth while.

    It is like spending $100K to restore a car that is worth maybe $20K in mint condition (which it wont be).

    in that case, Ukraina could be made into a large DDG specifically for the Black, Red & Med. Seas ops.

    It is not a question of finding a use for it...

    as a DDG it'll be at least 2x as powerful, carry more fuel, weapons, 1-2 helos, & with better seakeeping! Sure, they may name it Moskva or Kiev, to make a point!

    Why spend all that money to make a shallow empty point?

    If it was operational I would say upgrade it to make it useful, but in its current state I say scrap it and focus on the new stuff.

    they may modify them for Calibers/Oniks/Zircons, or put different tubes in their place to carry them, if need be.

    They do have other ships in the class, but they don't have the growth potential of the Orlan class so the less money wasted on them the better.

    they may complete it partually with minimum systems & continue working on it even while on training/deployments, before final fitting out is done in the yard/pierside.

    Moskva got the minimum and it seems it needed more work on its fire suppression systems. If you are not going to give it a decent overhaul and make it useful then scrap it because half arsed is still not cheap but also a liability in action.

    Even if Turkey opens the straits to naval ships, she may close them again & most ships r being build outside of the Black Sea, while the internal waterways rn't as deep anymore;

    Turkey has closed the waterways to military ships for the duration of the conflict. That is just fine.

    Btw, the Balaclava submarine base/shelter is being restored, so there will be more room for large ships in the region.

    More room is being created, so use it for new and modern ships that are useful instead of incomplete hulks that have little potential moving forward even if they were complete.

    Ukrainian women soldiers digging trenches by hand using pickaxes and shovels near the frontline. Zelensky doesn’t give them any actual trench-digging machines

    They are not digging trenches, they are digging in mortar base plates for which digging machines would be a waste of time and money.

    still, the Russian losses r not something to be proud of.

    No, but then the Russians were given no choice in this conflict, after trying time and time again to get peace agreements they ended up having to start this war and the cowardly actions of kiev and the west confirm that conflict was the right decision because Kiev is scum and cannot be negotiated with.

    The destruction of Kievs military is a necessary step to peace and prosperity in the region and security for Russia moving forward.

    The RN lost a few ships in the S. Atlantic, but at least Argentina had a real navy; the Ukrainians OTH use UA/SVs, CMs & AshMs with the help of NATO intel.

    The RN had operational aircraft carriers and should not have lost any ships at all because the Argentine navy stayed mostly in port and did not interfere in the British invasion and reoccupation of the Malvinas.

    The RN was supposed to be a force to fight the Soviets and succumbed to Exocet missiles, which was a minor threat in comparison to what the Soviets were fielding at the time.

    It's possible they decided to use the CIWIS instead of more expencive SAMs; in any case, it performed well.

    No. It is not possible at all. No ships captain would say... don't worry about using the expensive SAMS... just use the CIWS to shoot it down because that is cheaper...

    No captain would be that stupid and no captain would still be a captain after such a situation occurred.

    The USN also has a SSGN there with 154 LACMs, while the BSF has only 5-6 SSKs that must use torpedo tubes to launch theirs.

    Tomahawks that Soviet era defences shoot down in enormous numbers... compared with Soviet and Russian anti ship missiles and land attack missiles that seem to reach their targets most of the time.

    And makes the USN look really bad - god forbid they ever are targeted by a Kinzhal or a Zircon

    Actually even Moskit and Onyx would be a real problem for them...

    "Those bastards shelled Donetsk for the last 10 years - we will trap them - and if they do not call VOLGA - we will wipe them out" - and the FABs prove me right.

    Hahaha... I am guessing VOLGA is the surrender code... the western equivalent is calling Uncle...

    "I wasn't born in the Ukraine - I was born in Donbass"

    When Kiev's post-coup government sent troops to the East, Givi heroically defended his home. Probably the best known commander in 🇺🇦's civil war.

    Today marks seven years since his death. RIP hero.

    Seven years on it is a rather different war now...

    I dont know which type of bombs were used by the Russians, but they need to put more resources to improve the accuracy of their munitions. The strike would have been spectacular if the objects were directly hit. Also, this kind of miss gives propaganda points to anti Russian trolls

    When talking about aircraft delivered bombs of 500kg and 1,500kg a miss by a few metres is not important... a shockwave and fragments can kill over a wide radius even though neither can be seen from a distance.

    (video too big to view).

    Russian Air Defense failing to intercept Storm Shadow

    Page does not exist...

    I suspect it is a video showing an S-300 battery setting up as two Storm Shadows fly past at low altitude... the thing is that the battery just arrived to that position which the planners of the Storm Shadow mission likely had no clue about, but as part of the IADS that battery will pass on information about those missiles so the other systems that are set and working can engage the targets closer to their target.

    This is not evidence that S-300 batteries are vulnerable to SS attack, it is evidence that SS missiles are blind and cannot engage an important target it stumbles over and it blindly flies on to its designated target... likely to be shot down now that that target is probably going to be alerted now.

    S-300 missiles would not normally be used to shoot down Storm Shadow missiles aimed at the battery, such threats would be engaged by the Pantsir and TOR batteries defending the S-300 battery.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:30 pm

    Iran can supply perfectly fine missiles, so there is no need for Russia to get involved anyhow.
    It is only a matter of the projected scale of escalation.
    At the moment, things seem to develop in the proper direction, as nobody other than Anglosaxons and their thugs seems to get involved.
    Insurance tariffs were hiked by 50% for US, UK, and Israel-connected operators, increasing the cost by hundreds of thousand $ per ship.
    Same time, no Russian or Chinese registered ships are considered riskier, so there was no insurance cost increase for them.
    There is already a rumor, that they will be forced to drop the Red Sea route at all ...

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    Post  zorobabel Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:35 pm

    PhSt wrote:https://t.me/zoka200/20555

    I dont know which type of bombs were used by the Russians, but they need to put more resources to improve the accuracy of their munitions. The strike would have been spectacular if the objects were directly hit. Also, this kind of miss gives propaganda points to anti Russian trolls.
    Given that you can see the wings on the first bomb, those are fairly obviously glide bombs. Accuracy has obviously been improving steadily with these kits. This is an overshoot of maybe 50 meters -- it happens. When you talk about trying to glide these bombs 30km to a precision strike, that's not a simple problem to tackle engineering-wise.

    In this video -- https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1755325637378597070 -- they seem to be hitting within about 10m of the intended target.

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    Post  Belisarius Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:04 pm

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    ❗New abvances in Avdeevka at 13:00 of 8th February
    The Russian army has captured neighborhood "Dachi" near the railroad, and has captured the half of Shestakova's street

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    Post  Hole Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:43 pm

    I suspect it is a video showing an S-300 battery
    What a tremendous coincidence that a camera was there to film it.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:01 pm

    Hole wrote:
    I suspect it is a video showing an S-300 battery
    What a tremendous coincidence that a camera was there to film it.

    S-400 claimed in it, I'll see if I can find it again.

    In the meantime enjoy this bang. Looks to be on repeat.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:39 pm

    Zaluzhny is gone, officially.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:47 pm

    He's gone

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    Several Ukrainian Defense Official have now Confirmed that President Zelensky has Official Announced the Removal of Valerii Zaluzhny from Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.


    Zelensky: General Syrsky and a new management team are taking over the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    ▪"I am grateful to General Zaluzhny for 2 years of protection.
    We talked openly today about what needs to change in the army. Urgent changes. I invited General Zaluzhny to continue to be together in the state team. I would be grateful for his consent."

    ▪Today a new management team begins to lead the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In particular, today I spoke with brigadier generals Andrei Gnatov, Mikhail Drapaty, Igor Skibyuk and colonels Pavel Palisa and Vadim Sukharevsky.

    ▪All of them are being considered for leadership positions in the army and will serve under the leadership of the most experienced Ukrainian commander. He has successful defense experience - he conducted the Kyiv defense operation. He also has successful offensive experience - the Kharkov operation.

    ▪I appointed Colonel General Syrsky as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    ▪Today I spoke with generals Moysyuk and Zabrodsky. Their experience is in the service of the state.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:56 pm

    https://t.me/2045555618/1595

    Guys I am not sure if this will allow you to see it, I tried to modify the link as @scorpius suggested

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    Post  Isos Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:19 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Zaluzhny is gone, officially.

    You don't change a winning team. cheers

    Wait... scratch

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:32 pm

    This horse can be blamed for tons of shit 😈🤣

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:53 pm

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    Guys have entered Novomikhailovka

    I think this is late, as new video has geolocated assault squads deeper into the settlement and in the north they have also advanced at least 500 meters towards the settlement

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:21 pm

    Why spend all that money to make a shallow empty point?
    If it was operational I would say upgrade it to make it useful, but in its current state I say scrap it and focus on the new stuff.
    no, it won't be a shallow point, as Moskva is the capital of Russia & Kiev was the capital of Rus' that Ukraine appropriated.
    If not DD/CG, it could be made into ASW/AD/CG/intel ship that the BSF/FSB or the other fleet needs anyway.
    Otherwise, due to cost/manpower req'd to scrap it, they'll let it sit & rot there for more # of years until it sinks or used as a target.
    Turkey has closed the waterways to military ships for the duration of the conflict. That is just fine.
    unless the conflict lasts many more years, on & off, which looks more likely. https://youtu.be/R-Frr2SsBCw   https://english.pravda.ru/world/158885-tucker_carlson_russia/
    https://iz.ru/1647202/2024-02-08/smi-soobshchili-ob-anonimnom-priznanii-chinovnikov-ssha-udara-po-il-76-iz-zrk-patriot

    https://youtu.be/4mpamJ7kAEo

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