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    Post  GarryB Tue May 30, 2023 3:48 am

    Bomb stores normally have mounds of earth (called Berms) around them and are located away from other things.

    In the video of this bomb impact point... and it appears to be a single bomb impact point you can see what looks like vehicles or aircraft in the background all burnt up and destroyed... I would suggest for such targets a very large bomb would be used to get the most damage against aircraft stored out in the open.

    A 1.5 ton bomb exploding at the surface level would blow a hole this size quite easily... that is a lot of explosive.

    It certainly was not an airburst weapon.

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    Post  Backman Tue May 30, 2023 4:11 am

    Slightly off topic but it is relevant to Ukraine.

    It looks like they are really fast tracking the process of provoking China to war now.

    I thought they would use chatter about US naval bases to provoke the war. But that wouldn't be as effective as chatter about nukes now would it... The puppet regime in Taiwan is so similar to the regime in Ukraine it is unreal. This really signals that the Taiwan regime is beyond the pale and is willing to do the unthinkable.

    https://www.firstpost.com/world/taiwan-wants-us-nuclear-umbrella-similar-to-japan-south-korea-to-deter-chinese-invasion-12649852.html

    “Taipei and Washington are engaged in talks on the matter,” Taiwan’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Joseph Wu, was quoted as saying in the Legislative Yuan.

    Taiwanese defence expert Su Tzu-yun was quoted as saying by ‘The Taipei Times’ that the national security doctrine of Taiwan does not permit the development of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons despite the possibility of such weapons being used against it, especially by China.

    “The extension of an ally’s nuclear umbrella over Taiwan would significantly benefit Taiwan’s security,” he said.

    “Taiwan’s armed forces “already provide conventional deterrence; obtaining a nuclear deterrence would reduce its susceptibility to nuclear coercion,” he added.

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    Post  GarryB Tue May 30, 2023 4:28 am

    Love the irony because committing suicide is generally linked with Japan and not China or Taiwan.

    I rather think it was Kievs talk of nuclear weapons that made Putin think an invasion was their only option because the west has a clear history of escalation and really there is no leverage Russia could use to stop the US basing nukes in Ukraine if they decided to do that... despite them losing their panties over Russia basing nukes in Belarus or the Soviets in Cuba during the cold war.

    Their building up their allies to "negotiate" from a position of strength failed miserably in Europe and now they want to do the same in Asia.

    A China fighting for its survival will likely not hesitate to hit US bases in the region... which is probably why the US wants India and Australia to join the team as cannon fodder.

    I suspect the US wants to declare all US debt held by China to be null and void, which is very much a no no in international economics... the Soviets paid off lend lease despite it being questionable on many levels... (what sort of value for money were they getting for instance).

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    Post  Serberus Tue May 30, 2023 4:57 am

    https://t.me/intelslava/48207

    Several drones attacked Moscow and surrounding regions, some got shot down, at least a couple hit residential building … no serious injuries reported at this stage and appears minimal structural damage.


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    Post  Isos Tue May 30, 2023 5:26 am

    Ukrainian airbase after hits. Open the link it's a thread with other pictures.

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    Post  Isos Tue May 30, 2023 5:29 am

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    Post  ALAMO Tue May 30, 2023 5:52 am

    Backman wrote:
    Get with the program. The Americans are only capable of talking ridiculous childish nonsense about Russian systems. So the only option is to do the same in return.

    The truth is, American or Russian military designs are like talking about a Chevy truck vs a Ford. Or a John Deer vs a New Holland tractor. They are close in capability on most things. They make marginally different design compromises in some areas. Which result in marginally better performance in certain situations. And both have their specialties.

    That being said,  the US MIC now is the stereotypical bloated corporation that cant seem to get anything right anymore. And some of their newer stuff really just doesn't work. Like those Littoral ships.

    Air defense is one of Russia's specialties

    My comment is irrelevant to the DMC Laughing
    Actually, I have tried to point out how silly it is.
    Both sides are doing that.
    Sometimes watching this war from both sides sources and a third person perspective, I get a feeling that they are almost same.
    There are no Wunderwaffe, and no superheroes.
    Every weapon system is a part of the whole environment.
    Russian TG was full for a while of "flying bombs" where tons of people masturbated each other how crushing it is.
    Well, it is a cost effective tool proving again of how flexible Russians are.
    But the very same medicine applied against them would have been defeated in most of the cases.
    Every single hype is being created only for increasing trafick&clicks number.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue May 30, 2023 5:58 am

    As far as I can see, in the strikes on the airport, the Russians primarily targeted the hangars because most of these parked planes will never fly again anyway, due to the lack of spare parts and spent resources...
    If they had already intended to return some of this junk to service in those closed hangars, now they will have to do it outdoors or tow the planes with trucks to some other position.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue May 30, 2023 6:11 am

    What is interesting, that base has been heavily hit at least once.
    Rebuild later with "NATO standards", and some buildings look new.
    A new dose of medicine was necessary to applicate indeed.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue May 30, 2023 6:16 am

    The Russians wrote off over 200 MiG-29s back in the late 2000s due to corrosion problems, so these from the Ukroshitstan AF are probably in even worse shape.
    And for the Su-24, they are in an even worse position because the West cannot easily get spare parts for those planes, and those planes are also counting their last days.

    Consequences of the interception of the building by the Ukroshitstan missile..

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue May 30, 2023 7:23 am

    These smallish Ukrainian terror/nuisance drones fly so low that more than half of them just collide with trees, power lines, random constructions etc on their way to their intended targets. In the coming days, expect many more to be found wrecked here and there.

    In addition to their extremely low flight altitude - their diminutive size (large bird-ish) and unremarkable speed makes them extra difficult to detect by legacy ground-based AD radar, even with filters adjusted. IMHO Russia needs to invest in some tethered balloon radar surveillance that can be on station 24/7 and detect them from above (look-down), because this nuisance won't end anytime soon.









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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue May 30, 2023 7:45 am

    May 30, 01:35
    Military operation in Ukroshitstan

    The head of the Ukroshitstanian Defense Ministry said that Kiev needs about 120 Western fighters

    Kiev hopes to receive American F-16s, Swedish Gripen, as well as German Eurofighter and Tornado, said Alexey Reznikov

    BERLIN, 30 May. /TASS/. Ukroshitstanian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov said that Kiev needs about 120 Western fighters, most of which should be American F-16s.

    "We need about 120 fighters. Most of them should be F-16s, of which there are over 5,000 aircraft in the world," Reznikov said in an interview with the Funke media group published on Tuesday. At the same time, he stressed that Eurofighter and the Swedish Gripen would also help Kiev. At the same time, the head of the Ukroshitstan Defense Ministry expressed hope that Ukroshitstan would receive the German Eurofighter and Tornado.

    “If the UK and Germany were to pool their power on the [supply] Eurofighter, it would be an important step. There is already an international coalition for the supply of battle tanks, which includes the German Leopard 2, the American Abrams and the British Challengers. Similarly, we could to form a coalition [for the supply] of fighters with the basic models of the F-16, Eurofighters and Gripen," Reznikov stated. However, first of all, according to him, Kiev would be grateful if Berlin participated in the training of Ukroshitstanian pilots in the use of Eurofighter fighters.

    Answering a question about the timing of deliveries of F-16s to Ukroshitstan, the minister said that he "would like the first F-16s to arrive in Kiev by the end of the year." "Training our pilots on F-16 aircraft takes four to six months. We also need training for the F-16 crew: engineers, technicians and mechanics. We may also need up to six months for this," he admitted, saying that Ukroshitstan needs modern fighters of the fourth generation and above, such as the F-16, Eurofighter, Rafale or Gripen.

    Reznikov recalled that Denmark and the Netherlands will begin training Ukroshitstanian pilots on F-16 fighters. “We are also negotiating with Poland and Belgium. At the same time, our British partners are ready to offer Ukroshitstanians training courses on Eurofighter aircraft,” the minister stressed, adding that Kiev is discussing with the Swedish side the start of training on Gripen aircraft.

    Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin said earlier that Denmark and the Netherlands would lead a European coalition to train Ukroshitstanian pilots to use F-16 fighter jets. On May 21, US President Joe Biden announced at a press conference following the G-7 summit in Hiroshima that the West would begin training Ukroshitstanian pilots to fly fourth-generation fighter jets, including the F-16. At the same time, US national security adviser Jake Sullivan said that Washington would discuss with like-minded people in the coming months which states would transfer F-16 aircraft to the Nazi shithole Kiev.


    https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/17874567

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    Post  Arrow Tue May 30, 2023 7:53 am

    Fighter-Bomber comments on the Patriot vs Iskander-Kinzhal clash yesterday

    https://t.me/CyberspecNews/31942

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    Post  Tolstoy Tue May 30, 2023 8:39 am

    Major drone attack on Moscow today. This South West part of Moscow is a residential area and as you guys can see Ukrainians chose to target civilian areas. This lady in the picture and a few other people tells me that around 10 occupants of the building has been taken to hospital. Mobile signals has been blocked in the area as a precautionary measure.

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    Post  Hole Tue May 30, 2023 9:22 am

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    First pic of the new ground launched version of Kinzhal. lol1

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    Post  Mir Tue May 30, 2023 9:50 am

    We may also need up to six months for this," he admitted, saying that Ukroshitstan needs modern fighters of the fourth generation and above, such as the F-16, Eurofighter, Rafale or Gripen.

    They are going to be used as Kamikazes anyway - drones would be a hell of a lot cheaper! Rolling Eyes

    On second thought maybe not such a bad thing as they will all be stuck with F-35's pretty soon. What a Face


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    Post  Mir Tue May 30, 2023 9:54 am

    It seems that owais.usmani likes it when 404 terrorist strikes civilian targets on purpose angry

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    Post  Regular Tue May 30, 2023 9:58 am

    ALAMO wrote:
    Every weapon system is a part of the whole environment.
    Russian TG was full for a while of "flying bombs" where tons of people masturbated each other how crushing it is.


    Well it did change the whole dynamics and made Ukrainian logistics even trickier than what they are.
    It’s all reflected in their “counter-offensive”.

    If Ukraine would have an army of 50k, then yes it would be a game changer. But they have big army, big country, there are plenty of targets, outside supply, all dispersed, decoyed and so on.

    Nothing apart usage of tactical nukes would make quick changes that would please TG or Twitter followers

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    Post  GarryB Tue May 30, 2023 10:06 am

    In addition to their extremely low flight altitude - their diminutive size (large bird-ish) and unremarkable speed makes them extra difficult to detect by legacy ground-based AD radar, even with filters adjusted. IMHO Russia needs to invest in some tethered balloon radar surveillance that can be on station 24/7 and detect them from above (look-down), because this nuisance won't end anytime soon.

    They have already sold such airships to China for use in mountainous regions...

    https://interestingengineering.com/culture/ufo-russian-cargo-airship

    http://rosaerosystems.com/airships/

    BTW it is interesting that the Ukrainians are using Cessnas as flying bombs... I think Russia should consider doing the same with the aircraft they can't fly because foreign components cannot be sourced to fly them with passengers... fill them up with explosives and fly them on autopilot to hit large area targets like tank repair places where accuracy is not as important as the size of the boom and the extent of the fire that is started.

    All their Let-410s they can't find parts for can be modified to fly on auto pilot and hit large area targets in the Ukraine... if they get shot down then they get shot down.

    The more they use the larger the remaining spare parts pool for remaining aircraft.

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    Post  Kiko Tue May 30, 2023 10:32 am

    Russia's New Top-Notch Eye in the Sky to Spy on Kiev's Military Facilities - Source, 05.30.2023.

    Satellite reconnaissance provides high-quality data that can be used for various purposes. Data collected this way can be used to track the movement of troops, ships, and aircraft, and to monitor the activities of other countries.

    A new Russian radar satellite will be able to conduct reconnaissance against Ukrainian military facilities as often as twice a day, a source told Sputnik.

    "The new Kondor-FKA radar satellite, which was launched into orbit on Saturday, will be used for reconnaissance of Ukrainian military installations. It will pass over Ukraine on average twice a day and is capable of detecting military objects in radar range with a resolution of one metre," a source said.

    He added that "regardless of the time of day or weather, the satellite will make it possible to observe, for example, the concentration of enemy troops, the movement of equipment or the construction of new fortifications.

    The developers emphasize that the Kondor-FKA is capable of obtaining detailed images of the Earth's surface with a resolution of up to one meter under any weather conditions and at all times of the day.

    According to space portals, the Kondor-FSA has been code-named COSMOS-2569 by NORAD (North American Space and Air Defence Command).

    The Kondor satellites were developed by NPO Engineering. Two previous-generation satellites were launched in 2013 and 2014.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue May 30, 2023 10:39 am

    Regular wrote:
    Well it did change the whole dynamics and made Ukrainian logistics even trickier than what they are.
    It’s all reflected in their “counter-offensive”.
    If Ukraine would have an army of 50k, then yes it would be a game changer. But they have big army, big country, there are plenty of targets, outside supply, all dispersed, decoyed and so on.
    Nothing apart usage of tactical nukes would make quick changes that would please TG or Twitter followers

    I highly doubt that.

    Ukraine had a 320k armed forces, with 260k land forces.
    Trained for the last 8 years for sole purpose only.
    Blooded in Donbas, with real war experience.
    Hardned with strong chauvinistic core.
    And equipped for the last 8 years by entire NATO.
    The regular Russian army smashed them, using 1/2 of their forces, in a month.

    No matter how powerful the propaganda campaign was unleashed to cover that, the fact is that by April 22 Ukrainian army was a shadow of men, hiding in bushes surrounding Kiev. With empty eyes, and every single trooper was carrying a different weapon.
    They have lost most of the heavy equipment, air forces become irrelevant to the conflict, air defense ceased to present an organized threat.
    It is enough to check the casulty ratio sustained by the Russian forces.

    Every single "army" assembled after, was weaker and weaker.

    We are really discussing 120 Leopard 1 tanks, as a factor in a conflict, where the OpFor had hundreds of much more potent tanks only a year ago.
    At the same time, Russian army is hardly being seen now driving old 72BWs, but tons of brand new 90Ms, 72B3Ms of the newest batches, lines of BMP-3s...
    A year ago, a clash of motorized company of both sides was carried on equal terms, with Ukrainians using BMP2s or BTRs against Russian BTR82s. Now, we witness how a single platoon of Russian troops with BTR, decimates a company loaded onto M113s and civilian, Mad Max style carriers that has perfectly nothing to bite back...

    My point is, that every single thing we witness, has it's moment and momentum. The very same bombs used in March 22, would have been intercepted o some degree. Now, those are free to go.

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    Post  Serberus Tue May 30, 2023 11:45 am

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/66296
    🇷🇺🚀🇺🇦The Kremlin today for the first time announced a strike on one of the decision-making centers in Kiev on Sunday. We can only try to guess where exactly it arrived.

    It only took a year a half, and only one target. 🙄
    I assume the Moscow and Kremlin attacks previously may have finally done  the trick, i hope the nazis keep trying to hit Moscow (without success) as today, maybe it will finally wake up the dinosaurs in the Kremlin to stamp these ants out properly.

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    Post  franco Tue May 30, 2023 12:18 pm

    For this month alone, the losses of Kyiv militants amounted to over 16 thousand people. This was announced by the head of the Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu at a thematic conference call.

    Also destroyed were 16 aircraft, five helicopters, 466 unmanned aerial vehicles, more than 400 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 238 field artillery pieces and mortars.

    196 HIMARS rockets, 16 HARM missiles and 29 Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles were intercepted and destroyed, Shoigu said.

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    Post  franco Tue May 30, 2023 12:19 pm

    Shoigu also reacted to the morning drone attack on Moscow and the Moscow region. He stated that Kyiv's strike was aimed at civilian objects. The minister stressed that out of eight Ukrainian drones, three were suppressed by electronic warfare in Moscow, five more were shot down by the Pantsir complex in the Moscow region. He promised a tough reaction to the actions of Ukrainian militants.

    Shoigu also spoke about the serious losses of the Ukrainian side. According to the head of the Ministry of Defense, only in May they exceeded 16 thousand people in personnel.


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