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    Post  ALAMO Tue May 30, 2023 2:24 pm

    This is something mindblowing.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/87287

    Look at the cook offs rate. It is hilarious.
    This is a Wunderwaffe supplied by the mighty NATO. 82mm mortar mines for this case ...

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    Post  kvs Tue May 30, 2023 2:29 pm

    NATzO has been offloading expired military junk to its Kiev proxies and trumpeting what a great thing this is.

    NATzO sucker taxpayers will buy new ludicrously overpriced stock as replacement in the coming years.

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    Post  kvs Tue May 30, 2023 2:37 pm

    franco wrote:For this month alone, the losses of Kyiv militants amounted to over 16 thousand people. This was announced by the head of the Russian Defense Ministry Sergei Shoigu at a thematic conference call.

    Also destroyed were 16 aircraft, five helicopters, 466 unmanned aerial vehicles, more than 400 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 238 field artillery pieces and mortars.

    196 HIMARS rockets, 16 HARM missiles and 29 Storm Shadow long-range cruise missiles were intercepted and destroyed, Shoigu said.

    https://tvzvezda-ru.translate.goog/news/20235301320-BlG2F.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui&_x_tr_hist=true

    The pacing of this war is governed by the Ukr combatant attrition. It is slower than one would like because it involves the Ukr enemy coming
    to organized contact points to die. So the rate is not determined by the Russian side. I think this is the optimal approach. NATzO escalation
    would arrive under any scenario where their proxies are losing. So there is no point finishing the war quickly to avoid the escalation. Russian
    losses are minimized and NATzO equipment attrition is increased.

    Lindsey 'The Faggot' Graham thinks that the war in Ukria is a great investment because Russians are dying en masse. He is a chest thumping
    chauvinist retard who lives in projection fantasy land. NATzO will not be facing a weakened Russia now or two years from now. In fact, it
    will be boosted in conventional war capacity.

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    Post  Erk Tue May 30, 2023 3:23 pm

    How did a swarm of Ukrainian drones manage to get through Russia's air defenses to arrive at Moscow?

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    Post  Werewolf Tue May 30, 2023 3:47 pm

    Erk wrote:How did a swarm of Ukrainian drones manage to get through Russia's air defenses to arrive at Moscow?

    DRG basically a specialized unit for sabotage and espionage. It's unfortunately far to easy to get over the border as the Ukrainians are Russians, speak Russian and had basically the same soviet school. The civilian war against Donbass people went on for 8 years prior SMO. The influx of refugees was above 5 mln people to Russia from 2014 until this day, probably even more.

    The entire coup de 'etat and ATO, which was planned and executed, in middle of March 2014, - was only planned to provoke Russia taking action against the Ukraine. This is also evident from the fact that Minsk1/2 were initiated from Porky and the shooting of Donbass people daily. Like Alamo already stated, they prepared for all these years for a direct military confrontation with Russia. With all these preperations and full knowledge of wanting and getting their direct war with Russia, do you not think they had not planned sleeper cells in advance to get into Russia as refugees?

    This will take on for years until there will be no more Ukraine, no SBU and no one with a hand up ukropian arses to use them as a muppet.

    This will only end when all territory is denazified, the government and all it's structure ripped out of the land and most importantly a defacto state status for the west ukros created as a form of sub-state. This sub-state can not exist without massive social, educational and administrative reforms to uproot the mentality to nazism and alternative history of the last 2-3 generations. The denazification needs to take place for at least 10-15 years of the hardcore kastrjulja-golovnyx. The economical and social conditions however need to be favorable for living as any to dull and overly oppressive state will only fuel nationalism and ambitions for ukranianzation. This is evident from WW1 to WW2 Germany. They have been raised that way by repressive and oppressive conditions by the Varseile treaty and the British preps for Balfour Declaration.
    What will be left of 404 will need to be controlled to 150% or it will be a historical downfall and will only establish the phantom pain the Khokhols have from their alternative Xolodomor history. I personally have no knowledge of similiar historical conditions put on a country that went through that and had a successful outcome. The other civilizations that have been put up with a similiar division of their own ethnicity are Indians and Pakistanis, Chinese and Taiwanis and Germans. The last ones are split into three countries and have today little to no ambitions to even see eye to eye and some would even deny that they are germans despite there is no De-germanization of Austrains and Swiss people.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Tue May 30, 2023 4:20 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    The other civilizations that have been put up with a similiar division of their own ethnicity are Indians and Pakistanis, Chinese and Taiwanis and Germans. The last ones are split into three countries and have today little to no ambitions to even see eye to eye and some would even deny that they are germans despite there is no De-germanization of Austrains and Swiss people.
    By the way, considering that Swiss is no longer neutral, I am not sure that it will have a long future ahead in the current structure.

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    Post  Werewolf Tue May 30, 2023 4:32 pm

    kvs wrote:Lindsey 'The Faggot' Graham thinks that the war in Ukria is a great investment because Russians are dying en masse. He is a chest thumping
    chauvinist retard who lives in projection fantasy land.

    He isn't wrong though. Both sides are Russian and this is all Barbarossa 2.0 to depopulate and gain territory for them. Nothing has changed and the Western countries like in WW1 like in WW2 are and will be Russia's enemies.

    Operation paperclip has filled the already russophobic ranks of US of A with Nazis and in Germany like their grandfathers and fathers the very same Nazis are still in the government.

    Here a video of our two Nazis.

    https://vk.com/video-213205697_456258683

    Radion_Romanovic wrote:By the way, considering that Swiss is no longer neutral, I am not sure that it will have a long future ahead in the current structure.
    Time will tell, but more or less the entire central/western Europeans will face big problems artificially induced by the US. What will happen is only known to the ones that plan it.

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    Post  Backman Tue May 30, 2023 5:47 pm

    This seems like a bureaucratic step Russia would take before actively targeting them. Syrsky too 

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    Post  Werewolf Tue May 30, 2023 6:22 pm

    What means "wanted"?
    Dead or alive?
    What are the legal grounds for anyone who would hunt him down?
    Legal grounds as in Russian law in a multipolar world?

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue May 30, 2023 8:20 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Erk wrote:How did a swarm of Ukrainian drones manage to get through Russia's air defenses to arrive at Moscow?

    DRG basically a specialized unit for sabotage and espionage. It's unfortunately far to easy to get over the border as the Ukrainians are Russians, speak Russian and had basically the same soviet school. The civilian war against Donbass people went on for 8 years prior SMO. The influx of refugees was above 5 mln people to Russia from 2014 until this day, probably even more.

    The entire coup de 'etat and ATO, which was planned and executed, in middle of March 2014, - was only planned to provoke Russia taking action against the Ukraine. This is also evident from the fact that Minsk1/2 were initiated from Porky and the shooting of Donbass people daily. Like Alamo already stated, they prepared for all these years for a direct military confrontation with Russia. With all these preperations and full knowledge of wanting and getting their direct war with Russia, do you not think they had not planned sleeper cells in advance to get into Russia as refugees?

    This will take on for years until there will be no more Ukraine, no SBU and no one with a hand up ukropian arses to use them as a muppet.

    This will only end when all territory is denazified, the government and all it's structure ripped out of the land and most importantly a defacto state status for the west ukros created as a form of sub-state. This sub-state can not exist without massive social, educational and administrative reforms to uproot the mentality to nazism and alternative history of the last 2-3 generations. The denazification needs to take place for at least 10-15 years of the hardcore kastrjulja-golovnyx. The economical and social conditions however need to be favorable for living as any to dull and overly oppressive state will only fuel nationalism and ambitions for ukranianzation. This is evident from WW1 to WW2 Germany. They have been raised that way by repressive and oppressive conditions by the Varseile treaty and the British preps for Balfour Declaration.
    What will be left of 404 will need to be controlled to 150% or it will be a historical downfall and will only establish the phantom pain the Khokhols have from their alternative Xolodomor history. I personally have no knowledge of similiar historical conditions put on a country that went through that and had a successful outcome. The other civilizations that have been put up with a similiar division of their own ethnicity are Indians and Pakistanis, Chinese and Taiwanis and Germans. The last ones are split into three countries and have today little to no ambitions to even see eye to eye and some would even deny that they are germans despite there is no De-germanization of Austrains and Swiss people.



    Russia needs to arm its population in the border areas; at least create some sort of territorial defence. Also use modern technology to monitor the border; put cameras and detection devices on all roads from Ukraine entering Russia.

    A major incursion was stopped in 2008 in South Ossetia, so I do not know why it is impossible to stop it now.


    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/264/georgian-losses-reports

    http://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia


    If these incursions continue then launch some of their own counter-incursion raids into Ukraine.




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    Post  Hole Tue May 30, 2023 10:02 pm

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    Russian forces advancing

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    Post  Regular Tue May 30, 2023 11:04 pm

    ^^^

    Thats an old vid. Russian T-80 most likely (good reverse speed for those who are unhappy)

    Professional work, judging from the angle, it was talking with a drone operator, like they do now for indirect fire turning tanks into artillery pieces. We were talking future advanced tanks having integrated UAVs, but the future is here, this concept is being worked out in real life, even for BVR engagements

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    Post  franco Tue May 30, 2023 11:07 pm

    Regular wrote:^^^

    Thats an old vid. Russian T-80 most likely (good reverse speed for those who are unhappy)

    Professional work, judging from the angle, it was talking with a drone operator, like they do now for indirect fire turning tanks into artillery pieces. We were talking future advanced tanks having integrated UAVs, but the future is here, this concept is being worked out in real life, even for BVR engagements

    Believe the future mode of warfare is developing before our eyes.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 30, 2023 11:08 pm

    Tolstoy wrote:Major drone attack on Moscow today. This South West part of Moscow is a residential area and as you guys can see Ukrainians chose to target civilian areas. ...

    Find a fancy expensive residential building in Kiev and jam a cruise missile down the elevator shaft

    Find several

    And don't whine about civilians if you don't plan on avenging them


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    Post  PapaDragon Tue May 30, 2023 11:10 pm

    Hole wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #43 - Page 27 Fxxiwe10

    Look at his chest. lol1

    Ah, good old highschool days

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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue May 30, 2023 11:11 pm

    Erk wrote:How did a swarm of Ukrainian drones manage to get through Russia's air defenses to arrive at Moscow?

    Its probably very easy to get small drones across the Russo-Ukrainian border.  After all, its very long and as the US Mexican border shows you can't guard every inch of it.  These are small drones with small explosives strapped to them, probably 5 to 20 pounds (2 to 9 kilograms), with very short range and as such airdefenses aren't focusing on them as they are being launched very near or within Moscow and other Russian cities.  If it were me, I'd outlaw them around government, military, cultural, commercial, and transport sites and I would increase electronic warfare and air defense systems and call it a day, but yeah these get through air defenses because they aren't crossing the international borders that air defense would be looking at.


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    Post  Isos Tue May 30, 2023 11:29 pm

    If this is true then it's a big win for the russian air force. That's a lot of il-76.

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    Post  mnztr Wed May 31, 2023 12:27 am

    Regular wrote:^^^

    Thats an old vid. Russian T-80 most likely (good reverse speed for those who are unhappy)

    Professional work, judging from the angle, it was talking with a drone operator, like they do now for indirect fire turning tanks into artillery pieces. We were talking future advanced tanks having integrated UAVs, but the future is here, this concept is being worked out in real life, even for BVR engagements

    I can see each tank having a controller in a drone to warn it of threats and help with targeting and assign targets. imagine a formation of 4 tanks with 4 extra sets of eyes from drones with a gods eye view of the battlefield. Plus artillery to cover what is forward of the tanks.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed May 31, 2023 1:11 am

    ALAMO wrote:This is something mindblowing.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/87287

    Look at the cook offs rate. It is hilarious.
    This is a Wunderwaffe supplied by the mighty NATO. 82mm mortar mines for this case ...

    U also have to remember that these are ill trained, ill disciplined, and most likely demoralized Ukrainian troops/mobilization forces there level of training will be low, and professionalism will be severely effected due to this as well as mentioned morale, they will most likely start cutting corners and not be cleaning weapon systems properly and won't follow the specific guidelines for the system. A lot of these troops will be gung-ho and think they are John Rambo blasting of rounds thinking it's effective. If Ukraine loses its best trained soldiers it won't matter if they have 6 million strong mobilization troops they will be pretty much useless and turned into fertilizer rather rapidly.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed May 31, 2023 1:14 am

    Backman wrote:This seems like a bureaucratic step Russia would take before actively targeting them. Syrsky too 


    There was rumours that Zaluzhny was taken out of the picture and left out of the decision and Intel loop. How would it be after him putting in all his efforts into the Ukrainian side that he became a turncoat and fled to Russia in promise of safety and money. How funny would that be, a huge humiliation for Ukraine. Stranger things have happened lol!

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed May 31, 2023 3:07 am

    With Russia using up old stocks of various rockets and missiles I wonder if they still have old stocks of Sa-1 (s-25 Berkut), Sa-2, Sa-3, Sa-4, Sa-5, I know a few of these were used as target training, but the houthis managed to convert(with Iranian help) Sa-2 I to surface to surface missiles with a range of 250km and a 195kg warhead and have fairly decent success with it. I wonder if Russia could convert these old missiles stocks into cheap missiles, a good way to use up old stocks especially when u need something a bit heavier than Geran-2 but not as sophisticated as Iskander. The houthis managed to extend the range of Sa-2 to five times it's normal AA range, so these other systems (Sa-1, Sa-3, Sa-4, Sa-5) would have decent enough range and warhead weight, ok if we were to apply the extended ratio that the houthis did with the Sa-2 then you would be looking at decent ranges below are rough examples if they used the same concept as they did with the Sa-2. (X5 range), I do stress these are potential examples.
    Sa-1 - 200-320kg warhead, range 150km
    Sa-3 - 70kg warhead, range 175km
    Sa-4- 150kg warhead, range 275km
    Sa-5 - 217kg warhead, range 1,500km

    I wonder if they could do similar with Frog-3/5, and Frog-7 missiles. Also the North Koreans have adapted their Bm-14, BM-24, BM-25, Bm-31 launchers to carry thermobaric rockets and improved fragmentation rockets and using a basic fire control system made an old system fairly decent these could be useful as a cheap TOS type system used for clearing out trenches I would suggest that these could be given to Donbass militia, cossacks etc.  I also wonder if they have any old stocks of 180mm artillery shells (S-23 artillery gun) some these were designed to be concrete piercing shells and a simple modification could turn these into laser guided shells with a decent range (upto 43km) and payload.
    Just an idea to use up old stocks laying around and take out the enemy fairly cheaply. Yes the west might make a story out it, but the Russians will have the last laugh.

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    Post  mnztr Wed May 31, 2023 3:43 am

    GarryB wrote:Bomb stores normally have mounds of earth (called Berms) around them and are located away from other things.

    In the video of this bomb impact point... and it appears to be a single bomb impact point you can see what looks like vehicles or aircraft in the background all burnt up and destroyed... I would suggest for such targets a very large bomb would be used to get the most damage against aircraft stored out in the open.

    A 1.5 ton bomb exploding at the surface level would blow a hole this size quite easily... that is a lot of explosive.

    It certainly was not an airburst weapon.

    Would the berm still be there after it goes up? Also the ammo store would be probably have all kinda of trucks and vehicles around to move the ammo no? To me that is like a 5T bomb crater.
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    Post  Krepost Wed May 31, 2023 4:28 am

    Isos wrote:If this is true then it's a big win for the russian air force. That's a lot of il-76.


    As far as I know:

    They captured only one IL-76 at Melitopol airport.

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