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    Post  mnztr Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:58 pm

    Isos wrote:
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    Backman wrote:With embassys emptying out and troop trains arriving , when do ppl think this attack is going to happen ?

    At any moment now or in a couple weeks still ?

    Makes me think that all the talk about "rasputitsa" putting a clamp on military campaigns is not close to the mark.   Seems
    like some sort of action is imminent and it is not just the missile attacks.


    They say they have 10k soldiers in Belorussia. Not enough. And the mobilized still have not ended their training.

    Another 2 or 3 week will be needed.

    IMO they won't attack Kiev again. They send troops close to NATO border to anticipate an attack from Poland.

    I wouldn't be surprised if pictures of nuks are shared from Minsk. Nato has steped up its rethoric about attacking Russia. In the same time they make ukrainian believe they will attack, they will need to move forces from donbass.

    Its foolish to attack Kiev. They really need to focus all their efforts on closing the western border. Ukraine CANNOT continue if they do this. It will be just like the Gulf of Inchon attack. We all know the Ukraine military is on a western lifeline. Cut that and you are cutting the jugular vein.


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:11 pm

    [h2]U.S. envoy: Gaddafi troops raping, issued Viagra[/h2]

    HEALTHCARE & PHARMA[b] APRIL 29, 201[/b]1 10:37 PMUPDATED 11 YEARS AGO

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    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The U.S. envoy to the United Nations told the Security Council on Thursday that troops loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi were increasingly engaging in sexual violence and some had been issued the impotency drug Viagra, diplomats said.

    Several U.N. diplomats who attended a closed-door Security Council meeting on Libya told Reuters that U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice raised the Viagra issue in the context of increasing reports of sexual violence by Gaddafi’s troops.

    “Rice raised that in the meeting but no one responded,” a diplomat said on condition of anonymity. The allegation was first reported by a British newspaper.

    Pfizer Inc’s drug Viagra is used to treat impotence.

    Diplomats said if it were true that Gaddafi’s troops were being  issued Viagra, it could indicate they were being encouraged by their commanders to engage in rape to terrorize the population in areas that have supported the rebels. That would constitute a war crime.
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-troops-rape-idUSTRE73S74B20110429





    lol1 lol1 lol1


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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:23 pm

    Big birds are coming






    Iran's Arash; world's longest-range suicide drone with high precision


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    https://iranpress.com/content/66112/iran-arash-world-longest-range-suicide-drone-with-high-precision





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    Post  Isos Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:41 pm

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    Why did you share this with the other members of the forum, you dumb French mule, since it is obvious that according to you Russia does not have the technology that Surovikin is talking about ?
    HANDE HOCH ! Laughing

    Since he came to power he is buying and using iranian drones effectively, is going to buy bigger iranian drones and is buying iranian ballistic missiles in order to switch from a dumb way of doing war to an effective strategy that will reduce number of useless deads as he he says.

    If like you say, russian weapons are the best, produced in quantities more than needed and used very well, can you then explain us why this russian general that is in charge of the war is buying iranian drones and missiles and changing the whole strategy after he bought iranian stuff ?

    Btw feel free to block me and go **** yourself as suggested before.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:42 pm

    Those pictures of destroyed MSTA are stupid

    There are endless videos of M777 , Dana, And Caesar destroyed as well

    It's a self propelled gun nothing mysterious or hard to kill about it

    Russians do it way more than Ukraine

    And you are high on crack if you think those uragans were taken out by Himars lmao

    They staged those videos as they did countless times , they're not doing battle damage assessment on anything except how many civilians they kill and bury in mass Graves


    Again i stand by the fact that the Russian leadership ineptitude and limitations placed on the military are what has enabled western fanboys to even talk this way in the first place

    VKS can certainly fly over Ukraine, there's plenty of targets , but instead of hitting the civilian sites where a lot of these weapons are, they need to prove that there is a weapon system and fly sorties against military targets strictly

    That's the same reason su34 is used at low altitude nearby MANPADS and BUKS, because they are prohibited from dropping bombs at 10,000 plus meters , where they can easily hunt SAMS and have time for evasion

    Instead they are flying low altitude against VSHORADS and SHORADS which is a death sentence

    By tying Surovikhins hands they have doomed him to failure , and then the western fanboy trolls can come out and celebrate the wunderwaffen given by NATO

    It all boils down to a common denominator... ineptitude - not military, but political

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:08 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    I asked for Smerches, why did you show me Uragans and Msta-Ss?

    Why are you even answering to, other madman products? scratch
    There are multiple footages of destroying HIMARS.
    And some of Caesars.
    The case might be, that Caesar deliveries are on equal to the Froggy might - pathetic and irrelevant scratch
    You can't destroy not existent pieces, you know?


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    Post  Isos Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:15 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    I asked for Smerches, why did you show me Uragans and Msta-Ss?

    I haven't found Smerch footage. I quickly look on twitter to provide yoy some footage. But Uragan is in the same class.

    Uragan and Msta S are behind the frontline troops. Managing to capture them is a big achievement.

    Managing to destroy them is also a big achievement since Ukraine has far less systems and they manage to win in counter artillery operations despite russian having more counter battery radars. Pantsir and tor aren't destroying those drones that are filming and coordinating them.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:30 pm

    Everything you wanted to know about Geranium but were afraid to ask.

    According to our sources, Iran did not hand over the drones themselves, but the technology to produce them. It is said that there are already three enterprises in the territory of Russia that are involved in this.

    The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

    For modern air defense systems, the Geran-2 is a very difficult target to defeat. It is also virtually impossible to hit a drone with small arms. We need Pantsir missile and cannon systems, but the AFU practically does not have them.

    Finally, "Geran-2" easily destroys any enemy armored vehicle, including a tank, and can destroy a separately standing medium-sized multi-story building, a warehouse, and a hangar.
    Damn...so cheap...give me 5 right now. I have a @##%@&# who parks at my spot all the time...


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14786

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:35 pm

    JohninMK wrote:   Everything you wanted to know about Geranium but were afraid to ask.
       According to our sources, Iran did not hand over the drones themselves, but the technology to produce them. It is said that there are already three enterprises in the territory of Russia that are involved in this.
       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).
       For modern air defense systems, the Geran-2 is a very difficult target to defeat. It is also virtually impossible to hit a drone with small arms. We need Pantsir missile and cannon systems, but the AFU practically does not have them.
       Finally, "Geran-2" easily destroys any enemy armored vehicle, including a tank, and can destroy a separately standing medium-sized multi-story building, a warehouse, and a hangar.
       Damn...so cheap...give me 5 right now. I have a @##%@&# who parks at my spot all the time...
    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14786

    Yup.
    There are multiple records that Russkie are making those 136s locally.
    At insane rate.
    For the records, it is really an EXTREAMLY cheap an easy to product piece.
    Someone has counted the Oral-10 production revealed, and there was some 60 pieces on the processing. On a single shot.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:20 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    Isos wrote:



    Why did you share this with the other members of the forum, you dumb French mule, since it is obvious that according to you Russia does not have the technology that Surovikin is talking about ?
    HANDE HOCH ! Laughing

    Since he came to power he is buying and using iranian drones effectively, is going to buy bigger iranian drones and is buying iranian ballistic missiles in order to switch from a dumb way of doing war to an effective strategy that will reduce number of useless deads as he he says.

    If like you say, russian weapons are the best, produced in quantities more than needed and used very well, can you then explain us why this russian general that is in charge of the war is buying iranian drones and missiles and changing the whole strategy after he bought iranian stuff ?

    Btw feel free to block me and go **** yourself as suggested before.

    He knows the Iranians. He knows her skills. Contrary to propaganda, Iran is extremely good in science and research. He knows her skills on the battlefield. They are real gun brothers. No hot air like China or other states.

    No more half things, no shy because it is not selfe made. The goal against the Fascista NATO survival, announced against the USA. Ukraine to 100% occupy no matter what weapons. Effective, determined and fast!

    Iranian Kamikaze can threaten that? Bring it on!


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    Post  Ispan Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:23 pm

    Ispan wrote:A short article commenting a war correspondent take on the tactical problem of fighting in the steppe

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/10/16/el-problema-tactico-de-la-lucha-en-los-campos/

    Belated report on the fighting from 14 to 15 October, still worth reading, lots of info and links.

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/10/16/noticias-de-la-guerra-informes-del-14-al-15-de-octubre/

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:24 pm

    On the subject of missiles.

    I'm curious where were the stocks of Russian Tochka ? I remember some of their missile regiment only get equipped with Iskander at 2019's. Meaning that there could still be relatively -large- amount of this missile.
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    Post  Hole Sun Oct 16, 2022 11:36 pm

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    Nikolaev has been hit hard. Some Geran-2 drones were successfully shot down by warehouses and fuel depots.  Laughing
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    Something above Odessa. 
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    Post  Isos Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:10 am

    JohninMK wrote:   Everything you wanted to know about Geranium but were afraid to ask.

       According to our sources, Iran did not hand over the drones themselves, but the technology to produce them. It is said that there are already three enterprises in the territory of Russia that are involved in this.

       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

       For modern air defense systems, the Geran-2 is a very difficult target to defeat. It is also virtually impossible to hit a drone with small arms. We need Pantsir missile and cannon systems, but the AFU practically does not have them.

       Finally, "Geran-2" easily destroys any enemy armored vehicle, including a tank, and can destroy a separately standing medium-sized multi-story building, a warehouse, and a hangar.
       Damn...so cheap...give me 5 right now. I have a @##%@ who parks at my spot all the time...


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14786

    I saw that the engine used for that drone is a copy of a german engine and it cost a couple thousand of dollars.

    You don't set up a production line that easily. Il-76 have flown from iran which suggest hardware transfert.

    This has 0 credibility. But the production line is probably being set up.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:20 am

    RF Lancet drone strike on Ukrainian S-300, Zaporozhye region


    (full version) BARS-13/DPR take Ukrainian checkpoint on the Bakhmut-Lisichansk road


    DPR Sparta drone against Ukrainian troops

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    Post  Backman Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:37 am

    "I am not willing to sacrifice more #Russian soldiers in a guerilla war against the fanatical hordes armed with #NATO. We have enough power and technology to bring #Ukraine to a complete surrender." - Army general Sergei Vladimirovich Surovikin

    I don't understand how you make a fanatic occupation govt surrender. The Kiev regime doesn't care about Ukraine at all. If it did they would have came to a deal already. They are there to make war on Russia for the US. Nothing else. They will making defiant blustering statements even if Russia bombed their infrastructure for 2 months.

    The Kiev regime needs to be removed by physical force. Send commandos and Chechens in to kill whoever hasn't yet fled to Poland. Burn the US embassy to the ground. Then take someone from the Ukraine military and make them sign a peace deal.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:47 am

    Backman wrote:
    "I am not willing to sacrifice more #Russian soldiers in a guerilla war against the fanatical hordes armed with #NATO. We have enough power and technology to bring #Ukraine to a complete surrender." - Army general Sergei Vladimirovich Surovikin

    I don't understand how you make a fanatic occupation govt surrender. The Kiev regime doesn't care about Ukraine at all. If it did they would have came to a deal already. They are there to make war on Russia for the US. Nothing else. They will making defiant blustering statements even if Russia bombed their infrastructure for 2 months.

    The Kiev regime needs to be removed by physical force. Send commandos and Chechens in to kill whoever hasn't yet fled to Poland. Burn the US embassy to the ground. Then take someone from the Ukraine military and make them sign a peace deal.

    Read your second paragraph again ... then you have the answer what he has plans.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:00 am

    Could be a fake... but remember that Avoz commander who filmed while being arrested in the sack with a trannie whore? looks like the predictable side effect when liberals are able infect a nation and its military with filthy woke degeneracy. Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Twisted Evil

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    Post  caveat emptor Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:07 am

    JohninMK wrote:
       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

        
    Maybe $8k and that is very doubtful. Even for very large orders. Components come from Iran or China. There has to be a mark up, as well. 
    Engine is simple design, but it is not a lawnmower engine as people call it.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:16 am

    Russian air defense set a world record: two Ukrainian aircraft shot down in 200 kilometers

    During one of the latest Ukrainian attacks on facilities in the Belgorod region, the Russian air defense forces destroyed two aircraft of the Independent Air Force - a Su-27 heavy multirole fighter and a Su-24 tactical front-line bomber. Moreover, the distance to low-flying targets was at least 217 kilometers. Military watch magazine reported that in this case, the air defense systems of the Russian Federation broke the world record for the range of hitting targets in real combat conditions. Previously, a target was hit at a distance of 150 km. A missile from the famous Russian S-400 complex in the Kyiv region in March of this year shot down a Ukrainian Su-27.


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    Post  lancelot Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:18 am

    Isos wrote:Another thing that will go into US hands. Msta-SM2 fully captured from few weeks ago. Russia on the other hand can't capture a dumb m-777, let alone HIMARS.
    You want a captured M777? Here have one at 0:48.


    Displayed at the ARMY-2022 military expo in Moscow.

    Isos wrote:Show me those destroyed HIMARS or Cesar that got destroyed.
    You showed blown up Uragan launchers and Msta artillery. But the thing is, seeing a wrecked Uragan is proof of nothing, since both Ukraine and Russia are using the Uragan. And it would not be the first time Ukraine tried to pass off one of their own destroyed vehicles as a Russian one. Ukraine also has Msta artillery in use. Both were put into service in Soviet times so both countries have them. Plus like it was said here, Uragan is much shorter range than Smerch or HIMARS, so of course it is easier to capture.

    As for showing Caesar getting hit by Russian forces.
    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1557686343202967555

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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:49 am

    Crimean bridge looks fine. Tho the damage take time to repair. But seems train service are ongoing.

    The following is a livetracking of train from and to Simferopol

    https://rasp.yandex.ru/map/trains/?affiliate_vid=44499&travelpayouts_uid=0a571e527ed74b539559e39505-44499&utm_campaing=poezdtavrida.ru&utm_medium=cpa&utm_source=travelpayouts#center=36.92522165343954%2C45.181532560955496,zoom=10,type=train,city=

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:13 am

    https://eurasiantimes.com/hamrless-missiles-us-supplied-agm-88-harms-are-failing-to-breach/

    https://news.yahoo.com/iran-send-ballistic-missiles-russia-155200066.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/10/16/iran-russia-missiles-ukraine/

    That's a mirror answer to HIMARS!

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    Post  Backman Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:42 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

        
    Maybe $8k and that is very doubtful. Even for very large orders. Components come from Iran or China. There has to be a mark up, as well. 
    Engine is simple design, but it is not a lawnmower engine as people call it.

    It is a 2 stroke air cooled RC engine. They only have to run for a maximum of and hour or so. Knowing that, they can probably make em pretty damn cheap. Everything can be made from the cheapest materials because its one use. Not 800 cheap but yeah. Maybe 8000 adjusted for PPP in Iranian ccy

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    Post  zorobabel Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:07 am

    Ukrops are hyping some Kherson offensive, but it seems to be failing spectacularly.

    At this point in the war, post-mobilization, no excuse for the loss of an inch of territory. In fact, there should be advances, which I am excited to hear about in the coming weeks.

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