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    Post  Belisarius Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:09 am

    More than 60% of the first batch of HIMARS had been destroyed by the end of August, and this is confirmed even by Ukrainian sources.

    We were the first to give an insider about the tactics of using the Himars Armed Forces, and also described how the Russian Federation can close this case.
    Our source reports that more than 60% of the "himars" were destroyed.
    The strategy of the Russians was that they tracked the movements and placements of the "Himars" for a long time. In the first days of use, the cars were hidden in different places for no more than 12 hours, then the place was changed, and so on. Also, at first they stirred everything in different places. Then they believed that the Russians "do not see" and began to bet already in groups, which was a mistake. Arrived quickly and covered immediately.
    Now the "Himars" are left, but not so much anymore, so there is not so much "noise", and the General Staff is now saving them for the picture, realizing that the Russians will still try to destroy them all.
    Also, the Russians partially changed the tactics of locating warehouses and strengthened air defense. Of course, the APU sometimes manages to break through the defense and deal damage, but it is not loud.
    All the military consider the case with the Antonovsky Bridge a failure. After a month and a half of constant attacks, the bridge stands, a lot of missiles and forces have been spent, and the Russians have not lost the transport artery with the other side of the Dnieper. This case is aimed only at PR and creating "noise" to distract the masses, but in strategic military terms, it failed.

    https://t.me/legitimniy/13286

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    Post  Erk Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:57 am

    I notices that China and some other countries, have ordered all their citizens to immediately leave Ukraine.

    Any idea why?

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    Post  Stealthflanker Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:14 am

    Erk wrote:I notices that China and some other countries, have ordered all their citizens to immediately leave Ukraine.

    Any idea why?


    worries of impending Russian offensive ? That's kinda obvious.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:17 am

    Lots of explosions in Kiev this morning.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:24 am

    Apparently kamikaze drones. Ukrainians are demanding more air defence from NATO. Does it make sense to use a 1M missile to stop a 20K drone with a 50 KG warhead?

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    Post  nero Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:33 am

    They've (likely) setup local production of Geran-2's (The Flying Dorito) in Russia. You can clearly see Russian markings on them, which would be unusual for a drone manufactured in Iran. I bet the shipments from Iran are the electrical components / assembled boards for them. Assuming they're able to manufacture even just >=50 of them per day, I don't believe any existing air-defense would be able to cope well with a sustained campaign; it's simple math.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:00 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Could be a fake...  but remember that Avoz commander who filmed while being arrested in the sack with a trannie whore?  looks like the predictable side effect when liberals are able infect a nation and its military with filthy woke degeneracy.   Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Twisted Evil


    I see a ripe market for N*zi themed porn. Azov casting calls. Azovstal hotties .etc lol.

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    Post  mnztr Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:07 am

    JohninMK wrote:   Everything you wanted to know about Geranium but were afraid to ask.

       According to our sources, Iran did not hand over the drones themselves, but the technology to produce them. It is said that there are already three enterprises in the territory of Russia that are involved in this.

       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

       For modern air defense systems, the Geran-2 is a very difficult target to defeat. It is also virtually impossible to hit a drone with small arms. We need Pantsir missile and cannon systems, but the AFU practically does not have them.

       Finally, "Geran-2" easily destroys any enemy armored vehicle, including a tank, and can destroy a separately standing medium-sized multi-story building, a warehouse, and a hangar.
       Damn...so cheap...give me 5 right now. I have a @##%@ who parks at my spot all the time...


    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/14786

    The engine is most likely a 2 stroke diesel engine, an upscaled RC type engine. Probab needs less then 20 HP. These engines are cheap and use a mixture of kerosene and ether so they can operate on the diesel cycle with lower compression ratio. In volume you can make this type of engine for maybe $100. Esp since it does not have to be too durable and runs on a fixed throttle setting. If you think about it RC type servos for control, a small 12V battery and a $50 of electronics. Its really not that hard. If you want more sophisticated targeting then the price goes up. But to hit a fixed target or home in on a laser. Its pretty cheap.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:10 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:On the subject of missiles.
    I'm curious where were the stocks of Russian Tochka ? I remember some of their missile regiment only get equipped with Iskander at 2019's. Meaning that there could still be relatively -large- amount of this missile.

    At warehouses in Russia.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:17 am

    caveat emptor wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
       The price of one UAV is about $800. That is negligible. It is trivial to use drones to defuse the enemy`s air defenses. At such a low price, the kamikaze UAV shows very good characteristics: a mass, small, noisy silent drone (weight of about 200 kg, the weight of warhead - up to 50 kg, and speed of up to 185 km/h).

        
    Maybe $8k and that is very doubtful. Even for very large orders. Components come from Iran or China. There has to be a mark up, as well. 
    Engine is simple design, but it is not a lawnmower engine as people call it.

    Dude.
    It is a plastic model with a lawnmower two-stroke engine.
    Lawnmower cost $300.
    A drone with quite advanced camera of high resolution, zooming etc cost $300.
    A sophisticated drone, with all the fancy shit, costs $2000. It has a TI camera, and used to cost half of that before the war.
    This drone made in Iran can REALLY cost a few hundred bucks. I mean it.

    Belisarius wrote:More than 60% of the first batch of HIMARS had been destroyed by the end of August, and this is confirmed even by Ukrainian sources.

    We were the first to give an insider about the tactics of using the Himars Armed Forces, and also described how the Russian Federation can close this case.
    Our source reports that more than 60% of the "himars" were destroyed.
    The strategy of the Russians was that they tracked the movements and placements of the "Himars" for a long time. In the first days of use, the cars were hidden in different places for no more than 12 hours, then the place was changed, and so on. Also, at first they stirred everything in different places. Then they believed that the Russians "do not see" and began to bet already in groups, which was a mistake. Arrived quickly and covered immediately.
    Now the "Himars" are left, but not so much anymore, so there is not so much "noise", and the General Staff is now saving them for the picture, realizing that the Russians will still try to destroy them all.
    Also, the Russians partially changed the tactics of locating warehouses and strengthened air defense. Of course, the APU sometimes manages to break through the defense and deal damage, but it is not loud.
    All the military consider the case with the Antonovsky Bridge a failure. After a month and a half of constant attacks, the bridge stands, a lot of missiles and forces have been spent, and the Russians have not lost the transport artery with the other side of the Dnieper. This case is aimed only at PR and creating "noise" to distract the masses, but in strategic military terms, it failed.

    https://t.me/legitimniy/13286

    A while ago someone put the thing into the proper perspective.
    Russkie doesn't care much about the Smerch, Uragan, or Grad pieces, as they have tons of those.
    It is just a piece of equipment, made for use.
    On the other hand, Ukrs are dancing along each and single piece of HIMARS in a way Russkie are treating the strategic rocket launchers.
    Those are being covered with the use of assets Russkie puts on a strategic weapon.
    A whole system has been created to use an MLRS.
    In single pieces, nobody even talks about batteries of divisions of that crap.
    Have you ever seen more than TWO of those firing from the same position?
    Yeah, me neither Laughing Laughing
    A bloody set of hydraulic pipes filled with explosives treated like A grade weapon Laughing Laughing
    Because the sponsor needs some nice commercials to be created Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Erk Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:35 am

    Stealthflanker wrote:
    Erk wrote:I notices that China and some other countries, have ordered all their citizens to immediately leave Ukraine.

    Any idea why?


    worries of impending Russian offensive ? That's kinda obvious.
    There have been many Russian offensives since the SMO started.
    Why now, did Russia warn China?
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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:09 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Late models 180km but your point still stands...

    Nobody ever saw a mythical "180km range" Tochka, including the users in GDR, Bulgaria or Czechoslovakia.
    It is a myth or - more possible - some never finished project put into a drawer.
    I will just remind you the dates. Tochka-U has just been fielded in 1989 (!), so no bloody way that a seriously improved version would have been tested yet ready two years after. There was Oka-U and Iskander program running in the background.
    My educated guess is, that it is some North Korean work being called a "Scarab-C", while they indeed worked on the project for a while.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:12 am

    mnztr wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Could be a fake...  but remember that Avoz commander who filmed while being arrested in the sack with a trannie whore?  looks like the predictable side effect when liberals are able infect a nation and its military with filthy woke degeneracy.   Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Twisted Evil
    I see a ripe market for N*zi themed porn. Azov casting calls. Azovstal hotties .etc lol.

    Azovstahl porn?   Shocked  /shudder

    Amputees, tight bondage, non-consenusal, visible signs of abuse.  Razz

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:23 am

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:36 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦 ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" shoots down the American high-speed anti-radar missile AGM-88 HARM.
    https://t.me/intelslava/39344

    Pantsir

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:49 am

    They should call doritos- the ghost of soleimani

    Hahahahahahaah

    If anyone uses that I want royalties hahahaahahahaha

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    Post  ahmedfire Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:21 am

    Ukrainian Ukrenergo building which houses the power-grid control system of Ukraine.



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    Post  Tolstoy Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:32 am

    Those of you from outside Russia probably haven't heard about T.V presenter Vladimir Solovyov. His show Вечер с Владимиром Соловьёвым on Россия-1 is one of the most watched TV shows across Russia.

    Last week he said that the financial condition of the U.K is so precarious that they are now approaching China to bail them out financially.

    Translation - it's only a matter of time that U.K is unable to support Ukrainian war efforts which they are currently spearheading.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:37 am

    Ex min of finances openly stated that Truss govt has some few weeks of operation till fully bankrupt.
    Seems it is hardly a news Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Airbornewolf Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:49 am

    Ukrainians under fire by RF artillery


    RF artillery and airforce smokes out Ukrainian infantry


    RF Geran-2 strikes Kiev


    Ramzan Kadyrov – on sending a special purpose regiment


    ^^^
    Translation:
    "Our weapons are much better than NATO or American ones. The most important thing for us is the spirit, they can't take it away from us. Whether it's NATO or American troops, it makes absolutely no difference to us, we will definitely win. It's elementary to look at them – it's such a pleasure. These guys are ready to give their lives in order for others to live in peace and harmony. And I am sure that with their arrival there will be significant changes in the conduct of a special military operation. They will show themselves, and there will be good results. I am proud that we have them. This is my gold, this is my diamond, this is my everything. I brought them up, I did everything so that we had them. And by sending them, I'm sending a piece of my heart. We know that we are on the path of the Almighty, and we will definitely win this fight."

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    Post  Isos Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:57 am

    lancelot wrote:
    Isos wrote:Another thing that will go into US hands. Msta-SM2 fully captured from few weeks ago. Russia on the other hand can't capture a dumb m-777, let alone HIMARS.
    You want a captured M777? Here have one at 0:48.


    Displayed at the ARMY-2022 military expo in Moscow.

    Isos wrote:Show me those destroyed HIMARS or Cesar that got destroyed.
    You showed blown up Uragan launchers and Msta artillery. But the thing is, seeing a wrecked Uragan is proof of nothing, since both Ukraine and Russia are using the Uragan. And it would not be the first time Ukraine tried to pass off one of their own destroyed vehicles as a Russian one. Ukraine also has Msta artillery in use. Both were put into service in Soviet times so both countries have them. Plus like it was said here, Uragan is much shorter range than Smerch or HIMARS, so of course it is easier to capture.

    As for showing Caesar getting hit by Russian forces.
    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1557686343202967555

    Now show me the HIMARS.

    Uragan are still long range weaobs and they are used behind the frobt forces so they have plenty of time to run away if needed. Same for Msta S.

    That cesar survived. You can see at the end of the video they hit some 10m from it. Maybe it got some shrapnels but not destroyed.

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    Post  Werewolf Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:00 am

    mnztr wrote:Apparently kamikaze drones. Ukrainians are demanding more air defence from NATO. Does it make sense to use a 1M missile to stop a 20K drone with a 50 KG warhead?

    Only if you are willing to lose something that might cost lifes (not valuable for Ukrops) or Ammo depots/command centers/radars/SAM batteries.

    Tolstoy wrote:Those of you from outside Russia probably haven't heard about T.V presenter Vladimir Solovyov. His show Вечер с Владимиром Соловьёвым on Россия-1 is one of the most watched TV shows across Russia.

    Last week he said that the financial condition of the U.K is so precarious that they are now approaching China to bail them out financially.

    Translation -  it's only a matter of time that U.K is unable to support Ukrainian war efforts which they are currently spearheading.

    More than half of the viewers of this propagandist and his female side kick Skabeeva are Ukrainians. They even published once a statistic by geolocation which showed that most are from the Ukraine.

    I also have never heard from any Russian that he/she ever mentioned these names. I find them both quite annoying the way they talk, but I have watched whenever Zhirinovsky was there because he was always funny and mentioned lot of historical facts.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:09 am

    Isos wrote:

    Now show me the HIMARS.

    Uragan are still long range weaobs and they are used behind the frobt forces so they have plenty of time to run away if needed. Same for Msta S.

    That cesar survived. You can see at the end of the video they hit some 10m from it. Maybe it got some shrapnels but not destroyed.

    Not if those MSTA ran out of shells or fuel or both and got left when police forces left Kupyansk and Izyum

    Uragan is in Ukro inventory along with Tor, OSA, S300 they try to pass off as Russian when they do Hollywood staged film

    As for HIMARS it operates as lone vehicle, Ukro IEDs did more damage to Russian infrastructure and civilians than HIMARS did

    HIMARS is a nothing burger, Ukro suicide bombers are another thing entirely and they can't stop suicide bombers with Drones or Su34

    Then again neither could NATO- but I digress
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