Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29

ALAMO wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

ALAMO wrote:Virgin Marry and the Holy Spirit, are you REALLY want to quote someone who is obviously mentally ill?
Asking seriously.

Don't blame him, he's been possessed by Vann7

The soul of Vann has possessed one of our friends.

Better get a priest, we need an exorcism here.

He is already speaking drivel and spewing out green goop.

Yes I do remember Isos in a way he used to be.
A genuine pain in the ass, a fanboy, but still a sane guy.
Someone we can disagree with, but still, have a nice & funny discussion.
What we see now is some bloody madness.
A stolen account?

Stolen honour.

By insulting the Rafael and France

Take it back or Isos will be a bane further against who he terms the 'fanboys'

I've heard that these 10.000 Russian soldiers in Belarus are actually Airforce/Airdefence troops, not ground troops.

famschopman wrote:That would be the 9th(?) mobilization for Ukraine. You have to wonder how many they have left to serve and how much longer the people are going to accept their government following US orders and sending their offspring on kamikaze runs.

The game all these months was to spare the combat ready forces, sacrificing conscripts to the Russian artillery to hold positions while the ongoing counterattacks were organized. Cynical but well thought in a sense. The problem is what happens, when Russia stops your offensives at the expense of thousands and thousands of your best men and almost the whole stock of weaponry and supplies you have been preparing for months, and they short after raise the game by multiplying their force at the front. All, while your country and their main allies freeze, you cannot hide in forests anymore and the military supplies of the West run out. At some point, something is going to break.

BTW, there was an interesting remark from Russian MFA re. the faint in Kiev that may help both understand that action and put what is going on now in Belarus in context:

Vanessa Beeley
Forwarded from Russian MFA
In conclusion of his working visit to Kazakhstan, President Vladimir Putin answered media questions.

Read in full

We are open [to negotiations with Ukraine]. But as soon as our troops withdrew from Kiev, the Ukrainian authorities lost any interest in the talks. If they ever get ready for this, we will welcome it. At that point, the mediation efforts of all the stakeholders may come in handy.

If it turns out that humanitarian corridors for grain shipments were used to commit terrorist acts, this would raise a big question about the continued functioning of that corridors.

We did not set ourselves the aim of destroying Ukraine. What is happening today is unpleasant, putting it mildly, but we would have got the same thing a bit later but in worse conditions for us.

Sending [NATO] troops into direct engagement, a direct clash with the Russian Army is a very dangerous step that could lead to a global catastrophe. I hope those who talk about this will be smart enough not to undertake such steps.

ALAMO wrote:
A stolen account?

Probably mostly butt-hurt but yes there is some weird stuff going down

SeigSoloyvov wrote:You will not see a major offensive next week, that's way to soon and the new troops they need aren't in position yet. Maybe next month or the month after that

If it was next week, you'd see data by now of the large scale formations pretty much in place and other countries talking about it.

Half a million men with all the gear and vehicles cannot be hidden from sates.

I partially agree with you. The thing about Maskirovka is that you don't do what people expected you to. I mean storming across from Belarus was not something people saw. It probably won't be what happens this time, but it could. Ukraine has to tie down forces there. I tend to think the main thrust will be from the Southern Front this time and honestly, I think it could happen off the march, that is to say right off the train and right up to the combat line and forwards. It may be a frenetic cover as well. Make noise in all directions all at once have two fronts with most of your troops, make Ukraine guess wrong and then storm across the lesser defended front. There are even ways to trick satellites.

For flamming_python.













So now your turn. Show me those destroyed HIMARS or Cesar that got destroyed.

ALAMO wrote:

Mir wrote:
Probably mostly butt-hurt but yes there is some weird stuff going down  

Yeah ..
Like you know ...
He was never the most brilliant smartass, still ...
None of us is. We are right and wrong and can deny&aclaim that.
Just .. talking ...
But now, he discovered himself as a pure madman.
A sad view, really.

He will remain in my zoo for observation. Hopefully the symptoms will subside over time?

Mir wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

Mir wrote:
Probably mostly butt-hurt but yes there is some weird stuff going down  

Yeah ..
Like you know ...
He was never the most brilliant smartass, still ...
None of us is. We are right and wrong and can deny&aclaim that.
Just .. talking ...
But now, he discovered himself as a pure madman.
A sad view, really.

He will remain in my zoo for observation. Hopefully the symptoms will subside over time?

Hopefully you guys don't see my previous post. You will get a heart attack.

Another thing that will go into US hands. Msta-SM2 fully captured from few weeks ago. Russia on the other hand can't capture a dumb m-777, let alone HIMARS.

famschopman wrote:

Backman wrote:Our source in the OP said that the General Staff, based on MI6 intelligence, requested to urgently prepare additional mobilization of Ukrainians into the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

That would be the 9th(?) mobilization for Ukraine. You have to wonder how many they have left to serve and how much longer the people are going to accept their government following US orders and sending their offspring on kamikaze runs.

It's sad actually; so many families destroyed and I'm sure most of these guys don't really have a choice either. The ones that wanted to fight volunteered.

It's like feeding a chihuahua to my dog; I already know how it will end.

I think it is a little more complicated than to say "they don't really have a choice". The majority rules. If a majority of even the conscripted men realized it was a fight they can never win and that they would die a pointless death for the US, they would turn on the command. There would be infighting , mass surrenders, whole units going AWOL ect. It would be a mess. The forces would be a mess. But none of this is happening. Literally almost none when you consider the numbers involved.

Mass formation psychosis has gripped the entire population of Ukraine. Sentient human beings are being led to their death.

Psychosis is when people lose some contact with reality. Mass formation psychosis is when a large part of a society focuses its attention to a leader(s) or a series of events and their attention focuses on one small point or issue. Followers can be hypnotized and be led anywhere, regardless of data proving otherwise. A key aspect of the phenomena is that the people they identify as the leaders – the one’s that can solve the problem or issue alone – they will follow that leader(s) regardless of any new information or data.

New sign is a 2, not a Z

Sniper from the Pacific Fleet Marines

Dorito above Odessa

What remains of the Ukrainian (Soviet) air defense system, whose main components are S-300 and Buk
There must be little more than fifty launchers in total between both systems
In addition there were also few hundreds of smaller and older systems such as Osa and Strella that have also been mostly massacred.





https://twitter.com/GeromanAT/status/1581409106690117633?s=20&t=pb22tCQdhIqs1_VPCnlqJQ

A question to this forum. Who are really fighting for Ukraine? I don't think they are Ukrainians from the East or from the now Russian regions.
Why aren't your stupid liberal women going to fight all the downfalls these cockroaches have had? to defend their pathetic lifestyle on the battlefields.

Isos wrote:For flamming_python.

So now your turn. Show me those destroyed HIMARS or Cesar that got destroyed.

I asked for Smerches, why did you show me Uragans and Msta-Ss? These vehicles operate a lot closer to the front-lines and are in no way equivalents to the HIMARS

And considering the Ukrainian track-record in posting and asserting BS, they could just as easily have recorded their own destroyed ones. They have both these systems in operation

And the Ukrainians are not going to film their own destroyed US-supplied wunderwaffe so you can forget about seeing that; at least not until Russia advances and some wrecks are found.

ISIS, did RTN or Vann hack your account?

flamming_python wrote:

Arrow wrote:

10k Russian troops are planned in Belarus. This is far too little for any offensive. If there are 100k, then you can discuss

Well, if you are really naive enough to think that any of the numbers floating around publicly correspond to reality on the eve of even the prospect of an offensive

Then by all means, take them at their word, whoever 'them' are

Naturally, the number will be greater, in addition to the great army that Lukackenko is raising to 120,000 troops.
I think that the Russians on the northern front will basically put the most modern weapons and technology but the Belarusians will be much better received in Polesia than the Russians, where there is also the Rivne nuclear power plant with 4 reactors, just 70 km from the border
This is an important objective, to deprive the Nazi terrorists of any nuclear attack attempt, in addition to depriving that part of Western Ukraine of the main source of electricity generation.

Beware of movement, Belarusian troops in the direction of the Rivne Nuclear Power Plant, troops 10km from the border in that direction

10,000 is not a small number . It is large enough to force one side to react to this force , using a much larger number of troops , thereby weakening them in some other position . Even if this force is only 10,000 and is not more or going to be increased and the other side know about it . Still either they have to commit troops or loose vital positions in the rear . A bit like the Uki side moving troops and forcing reinforcements by Russian side , but in reverse ? Even an Elephant has to physically react to repel a Mosquito bite , even if the energy spent in doing so , far exceeds the energy needed to simply  replace the lost blood cells !

Hole wrote:

New sign is a 2, not a Z

2nd Front

I completely agree with Backman and think the mentally ill Frenchman deserves an ignore list from most here. The Germans did a good job in WWII and we see from that forum member that complexes are not easily treated.

ALAMO, your post that "You know you've come to the Netherlands when you see that cows are prettier than women" is also the best post of the week...

Podlodka77 wrote:I completely agree with Backman and think the mentally ill Frenchman deserves an ignore list from most here. The Germans did a good job in WWII and we see from that forum member that complexes are not easily treated.  

ALAMO, your post that "You know you've come to the Netherlands when you see that cows are prettier than women" is also the best post of the week...

Then block and **** off. You haven't said or shared anything relevent anyway.

Isos wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/cs_czechoslovak/status/1581681497131847680

Why did you share this with the other members of the forum, you dumb French mule, since it is obvious that according to you Russia does not have the technology that Surovikin is talking about ?
HANDE HOCH !