Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29

It doesn't even have a thermal signature. It's a nightmare for AD.

* 17:55 Iranian sources report that Russia has ordered new Arash-2 UAVs from Iran. The warhead of the new drone is much larger than that of the Geran.




https://t.me/intelslava/39262


* 18:03 Gomel, Republic of Belarus.

Local TG channels report that troops are beginning to arrive in the city en masse, incl the Russian grouping of forces.

it would seem that the upcoming events before the end of the month are already obvious, I note that this is not the whole surprise. A little later I will publish information on the "second act".

Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Seems like Zelensky is continuing the genocide of Ukrainians. More than 1k casualties today, in a retarded offensive attempt on a place that doesn't want them there.

Soon it will be time for the West to discard that used condom called ukraine away and take a new one, Poland and the Baltics being prime candidates

Isos wrote:It doesn't even have a thermal signature. It's a nightmare for AD.

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1581299912406622209

Of course it has a thermal signature, it has an internal combustion engine that runs quite hot (you wouldn't want to touch the cylinder heads while it's running).

But, it's small and not easily reliably targeted at a distance by everyday legacy systems. Perhaps they even do a terminal unpowered glide flight, so the little IR signature shrinks even more.

There are for sure IR missiles that can effectively lock onto them with super sensitive and accurate IR imaging seekers, but they cost at least $500,000 a piece, while a Dorito costs like what, 15 grand.

Isos wrote:It doesn't even have a thermal signature. It's a nightmare for AD.

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1581299912406622209

Only TORM2 can help here. Everything else, including Panzir, has a hard time, this Shahed 136 cannot get down reliably. It's a game changer. Iran developed it specifically.

NATO will prepare this really headache. A further 10 years ago we the NATO no systems have counteracted here. Especially not in the front area and number.

It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones. But at least it moved and looked for help and accepted. It should strengthen the axis of Russia and Iran.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones.

And where did you figure that out?
Any clue how long it takes to implement a brand new weapon system into the ranks?
To me, it seems that they must have discussed that even before or spot on when the war started.

Russian Ministry of Defense
Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ️ (15.10.2022)

Part 1 (see part 2)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to conduct a special military operation.

No offensive actions were conducted by the enemy in the Kupyansk direction. ️Russian artillery was engaged in defeating AFU firing positions on the far approaches to prevent attacks on Russian positions.

Up to 50 Ukrainian servicemen, two tanks, five armored combat vehicles, three vehicles, as well as a field ammunition depot were destroyed by artillery fire near the village of Berestove, Kharkiv region.

The crossing of a company tactical group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine across the Oskol River was disrupted near the village of Dvurechnoye, Kharkiv region. As a result of the strike of army aviation and artillery, more than 30 Ukrainian servicemen, four armored vehicles and two pickup trucks were destroyed.

In the Krasnolimansk direction , the Ukrainian Armed Forces attempted to conduct combat reconnaissance in the areas of the settlements of Sergeyevka and Makeyevka of the Luhansk People's Republic, Novosadovoye and Torskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic.

As a result of the fire damage, the AFU units were pushed back to their original positions. Up to 60 Ukrainian servicemen, two infantry fighting vehicles and seven pickup trucks were destroyed.

On the night of October 13-14, Russian troops disrupted the preparation of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for a river landing operation in the area of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant in the Zaporizhia direction.

According to updated data, as a result of strikes by Russian army aviation, rocket troops and artillery on the landing formation area in the bay of the Kakhovsky reservoir near the village of Osokorovka in the Kherson region, more than 50 Ukrainian servicemen, five speedboats, two barges, five tanks and four infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed.

As a result of a high-precision strike by the Russian Aerospace Forces on the temporary location of the second battalion of the 65th mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the city of Zaporozhye, more than 160 Ukrainian servicemen were killed in three barracks.

In the Mykolaiv-Kryvyi Rih direction, the enemy made unsuccessful attempts to advance in the areas of the settlements of Dudchany, Sadok and Ishchenko in the Kherson region. As a result of the active actions of the Russian troops, all attacks were repelled.

About 120 Ukrainian servicemen, 17 armored combat vehicles and eight vehicles were destroyed. In addition, Russian artillery destroyed five crossings of the Ingulets River that were directed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

#Ministry of Defense #Russia #Ukraine @mod_russia


07:46
Russian Ministry of Defense
Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of a special military operation on the territory of Ukraine ️ (15.10.2022)

Part 2 (see part 1)

The strikes of operational-tactical and army aviation, rocket troops and artillery hit four AFU command posts, 53 artillery units in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 142 districts.

Five warehouses of ammunition and rocket and artillery weapons were destroyed in the areas of Glushkovka, Kupyansk, Kharkiv region, Konstantinovka and Fedorovka, Donetsk People's Republic, as well as Novaya Kaluga, Kherson region.

Su-25 of the Ukrainian Air Force was shot down by air defense systems near the settlement of Kiselevka, Mykolaiv region. Also, 10 unmanned aerial vehicles were intercepted, including two American Switch Blade-600 drones, in the areas of the settlements of Poltava in the Luhansk People's Republic, Petrovskoye, Staromayorskoye, Nikolskoye in the Donetsk People's Republic, Dmitrenko, Tomarino, Chaikino in the Kherson region and Tavrichesky in the Dnipropetrovsk region.

In addition,18 HIMARS and Olkha multiple launch rocket systems were destroyed in the air near the settlements of Svoboda in the Donetsk People's Republic and Novaya Kakhovka in the Kherson region. Two American anti-radar missiles "HARM"were shot down near the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station.

Since the beginning of the special military operation, 323 aircraft, 161 helicopters, 2,236 unmanned aerial vehicles, 380 anti-aircraft missile systems, 5,792 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 869 multiple launch rocket vehicles, 3,475 field artillery and mortar guns, and 6,580 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

#Ministry of Defense #Russia #Ukraine @mod_russia

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

Isos wrote:It doesn't even have a thermal signature. It's a nightmare for AD.

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1581299912406622209

Only TORM2 can help here. Everything else, including Panzir, has a hard time, this Shahed 136 cannot get down reliably. It's a game changer. Iran developed it specifically.

NATO will prepare this really headache. A further 10 years ago we the NATO no systems have counteracted here. Especially not in the front area and number.

It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones. But at least it moved and looked for help and accepted. It should strengthen the axis of Russia and Iran.

Don't underestimate Pantsyr, that system is evolving..
Ever since Syria, the Tor-M2 has been preferred over the Pantsyr-S1. At the time of the first Pantsyr systems, drones did not have the capabilities they have today
However, the Pantsyr-SM would have no problem shooting down this unmanned kamikaze. Poison creates an antidote..





and more news..

* 18:30 At the end of the day, the enemy did not manage to break through the defenses in the direction of Dudchany - Mylovoe.
The enemy got into a fire bag, approximately two battalions with tank support were dispersed with the active work of artillery and aviation.
About 15 tanks and 20 other AFVs were destroyed, the loss of personnel is being specified.
Excellent well-coordinated work of the infantry, artillery and units of the Special Forces of the Russian Federation

They are being steadily decimated for no gain.
There is something behind the statement, that Russkie cornered them to the position where there is no good solution.

Podlodka77 wrote:
Don't underestimate Pantsyr, that system is evolving..

No NATO country has anything that can even get close to those things used en masse.
Any single NATO army would have been decimated by those things, without much chance to retaliate.
Both the quality and the numbers of AD assets they have at disposal is pathetic.
France - objectively the biggest EU nuclear power - just provided Ukrs with ... 12 pcs of ancient Crotale.
Holly fuk, there are more equivalent Osa rusting around half of Ukro junkyards
But that is still one of the best systems to assist troops on the move NATO has.
Unbelievable.
Don't be surprised that they are terrified.
And what they are doing while in that state?
Yup! Propaganda for the rescue!

ALAMO wrote:They are being steadily decimated for no gain.
There is something behind the statement, that Russkie cornered them to the position where there is no good solution.

Podlodka77 wrote:
Don't underestimate Pantsyr, that system is evolving..

No NATO country has anything that can even get close to those things used en masse.
Any single NATO army would have been decimated by those things, without much chance to retaliate.
Both the quality and the numbers of AD assets they have at disposal is pathetic.
France - objectively the biggest EU nuclear power - just provided Ukrs with ... 12 pcs of ancient Crotale.
Holly fuk, there are more equivalent Osa rusting around half of Ukro junkyards  
But that is still one of the best systems to assist troops on the move NATO has.
Unbelievable.
Don't be surprised that they are terrified.
And what they are doing while in that state?
Yup! Propaganda for the rescue!

ALAMO, you're getting demented, you know they have Rafales...

ALAMO wrote:

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones.

And where did you figure that out?
Any clue how long it takes to implement a brand new weapon system into the ranks?
To me, it seems that they must have discussed that even before or spot on when the war started.

See meeting in May. Only there was the contract for this signed. If the drones had been asked earlier, we would have seen them and heard them in March. Other Iranian drones were only on site from June.

Podlodka77 wrote:

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

Isos wrote:It doesn't even have a thermal signature. It's a nightmare for AD.

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1581299912406622209

Only TORM2 can help here. Everything else, including Panzir, has a hard time, this Shahed 136 cannot get down reliably. It's a game changer. Iran developed it specifically.

NATO will prepare this really headache. A further 10 years ago we the NATO no systems have counteracted here. Especially not in the front area and number.

It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones. But at least it moved and looked for help and accepted. It should strengthen the axis of Russia and Iran.

Don't underestimate Pantsyr, that system is evolving..
Ever since Syria, the Tor-M2 has been preferred over the Pantsyr-S1. At the time of the first Pantsyr systems, drones did not have the capabilities they have today
However, the Pantsyr-SM would have no problem shooting down this unmanned kamikaze. Poison creates an antidote..





and more news..

* 18:30 At the end of the day, the enemy did not manage to break through the defenses in the direction of Dudchany - Mylovoe.
The enemy got into a fire bag, approximately two battalions with tank support were dispersed with the active work of artillery and aviation.
About 15 tanks and 20 other AFVs were destroyed, the loss of personnel is being specified.
Excellent well-coordinated work of the infantry, artillery and units of the Special Forces of the Russian Federation

Panzir already had bad -ups in Syria. Delia drones of the IDF etc. possible that it develops but TorM2 has 20 million US Dollar extra costs not without reason. The radar is simply better and the rockets too.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:
See meeting in May. Only there was the contract for this signed. If the drones had been asked earlier, we would have seen them and heard them in March. Other Iranian drones were only on site from June.

No we would not.
Signing a contract is the last stage that follows an intense testing&acceptance trials.
Russkie tested & studied those things for years I suppose, in Syria.
And tested them there either.
You have the first footage of Iranian aircraft carrying the systems and its infrastructure back in ... June?
We need to check those Iranian cargo planes, where they have started a massive arrivals to Moscow, but I guess it was already in Spring.
Bro, a test for fielding a pistol takes years.
Yet you really believe they have introduced a whole line of totally new drones - as 136s are not the only ones, they accepted some others either - in a few months?
Nope. They are talking that for years, and testing intensively in Syria for a long time.

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:

Panzir already had bad -ups in Syria. Delia drones of the IDF etc. possible that it develops but TorM2 has 20 million US Dollar extra costs not without reason. The radar is simply better and the rockets too.

The main killer of Bayraktar TB2 has been Pantsir

Consider TB2 the best drone they have in inventory

Anywhere Pantsir was, TB2 was downed

The engagement altitude of missile makes it suitable to engage those drones

If Ukraine had Pantsir, maybe they would have a chance against Geran - 2

Podlodka77 wrote:
ALAMO, you're getting demented, you know they have Rafales...

Oh yes, I have forgot that La Froggwunderwaffe.
Sorry! Never again!

No Russian air defense system performed as badly as the best American air defense system MIM-104. Should I write that the Soviet/Russian systems have waged war against the entire NATO arsenal in unequal battles during the past decades ?
Only the Rafale might change the rules of the game and with it France would have lasted 43 days against Germany - a day longer than in the Second World War...

Podlodka77 wrote:No Russian air defense system performed as badly as the best American air defense system MIM-104. Should I write that the Soviet/Russian systems have waged war against the entire NATO arsenal in unequal battles during the past decades ?
Only the Rafale might change the rules of the game and with it France would have lasted 43 days against Germany - a day longer than in the Second World War...

The RAF and French launched storm shadow and scalpel at Al-Shayrat

Kvadrat and Kub ate those up

Something tells me Rafale would have it's reputation as "omnirole" seriously compromised if it took any mission over that airspace

Not to mention S400 would have killed rafale as it did to Su27 from 150km range in Belarus over Kiev

Russians don't show their capabilities

But western fanboys rely on virtual jamming and other such bullshit instead of sending their equipment into a real war

Whatever happened to Roland they should be better than the Crotale or is the tech too sensitive to export?

Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:Only TORM2 can help here. Everything else, including Panzir, has a hard time, this Shahed 136 cannot get down reliably. It's a game changer. Iran developed it specifically.

NATO will prepare this really headache. A further 10 years ago we the NATO no systems have counteracted here. Especially not in the front area and number.

It's a shame that Moscow had waited so long to ask Iran for drones. But at least it moved and looked for help and accepted. It should strengthen the axis of Russia and Iran.

C-RAMs would be the best NATO weapon to counteract such drones. Don't think there's a chance they would pass them over to Ukraine.

Finally get to see these babies used.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sprinter99880/status/1581295132057686017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1581295132057686017%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url= penicillin EW system.

Pantsir is the reason we don't see Bayraktar TB2 flights anymore

Probably 100 Tb2 were destroyed by Pantsir alone

Anyway, without Rotax engines it will be hard to produce anymore tb 2

Got some good hits early in war against unimportant targets, but IADS of pantsir and Buk were too much for those systems

Including Tochka U, Bayraktar, HIMARS , Smerch , Uragan, and other such systems

What Russians need is an IED detector to stop car and truck bombings, because those did much more than what a HIMARS could not

Hole wrote:

flamming_python wrote:There will be an offensive, but only once Ukrainian reserves are sufficiently depleted

What I thought 1.5 months ago, but didn't want to write publicly, is that Russia will continue to deplete Ukrainian numbers by encouraging them to go on the offensive.
But not only that - that then once their new NATO trained forces and mercs are expended, Russia will advance on Kiev again which will force the Ukrainians to decide whether to urgently send what men they have ready to defend it, or keep manning the defensive lines in the Donbass, Kharkov and Kherson regions.
They won't be able to manage both, and either Kiev will fall or the way will be open for a painless advance from the south all along the line for Russia

This time the forces in the North won´t be a feint or part of a political gamble or whatever. They will be real.

If the Bandera regime takes forces from the South and South-East the four new russian regions there will be liberated completely + Nikolaev, Odessa and Dnjepropetrovsk. If the regime keeps the troops there it will loose some northern regions + the North-East (Kharkov, Sumi and Chernishev).

My bet: the regime will act as before and send some forces from the South to the North. With this half-measure the whole liberation campaign in the South will take a few days longer but in the end the regime will loose at both ends of 404.

They were real the last time as well

Or was it a mirrage

The best bluff is always the one you're prepared to carry out. No doubt Russia anticipated the last time that it advanced on Kiev, that the regime will divert all its defenses to there. That was probably part of the plan. And the main objective was I think a political gamble more than anything else anyway.

But to get the Ukrainian leadership to divert forces to the capital you have to actually present a credible threat, that would be able to surround and take the city if left unchallenged.

Here again, if Russia advances on Kiev it will present a credible threat. And leave it to the decision of the Ukrainian and NATO command whether to shore up the city's defense at the expense of all their defensive lines along the southern front - or not. It's like that old move in chess of advancing a knight so as to either take the king or the rook next turn. Or queen or rook in this case perhaps, as the regime on NATO life-support can survive the fall of its capital.

flamming_python wrote:
Or was it a mirrage

I guess it was bud
There are more and more indications for that.
Yeah, sure, they could have occupy & stabilize the Kiev once the regime felt down, but you can't get such a huge metropoly with the army group they had there back there.
It is impossible.
I have been to Kiev, remember how it looks like.
It is a bloody 100 km of continuous infrastructure.
The Soviet one.
Divided by the lakes, rivers, Dnepr bays ...
No bloody way to contest that without erasing from the map with 50k soldiers - and that is what they had there back then.

... all of them, perhaps?

Podlodka77 wrote:* 17:55 Iranian sources report that Russia has ordered new Arash-2 UAVs from Iran. The warhead of the new drone is much larger than that of the Geran.

That means more of