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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:27 pm

    Just because someone loves their country doesn't mean they cannot be critical of it, Blind boot licking patriotism does no one any good.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:29 pm

    Time for Z

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    Chechen troops prepare to go to Ukraine



    Tulip fires on the fortifications of Ukrainian troops in the Avdiivka region



    RF airborne destroy collumn of Dutch APC YPR-765 in the Kherson region


    RF forces destroy Ukrainian troops near Kherson


    RF strikes with suicide drones Ukrainian command South in Odessa

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:37 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    This is why its important to start dropping FOABs on major UkroNazi cities close to the front lines to cause disarray among NATzO terrorists

    Деееймн...
    For someone who is against Nazis you damn like to use Nazi methods...

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sun Sep 25, 2022 4:38 pm

    Arkhangelsk, listen (read) to me well you pussy, I work in one of the "force" state structures and I'm not a worm like you.
    Politics is politics, people from state structures die because of politics (army, police, intelligence) but either you are a patriot or you are a **** - you die for belonging and above all for your family. I see that my compatriots on the forum are mostly pussies and conceited spineless people who pretend to be tough guys. You see, I can feel their "blood" when they write and I know they are pussies. Anyone who doubts is weak or spineless.
    With you, it is clear that you have no heart and that you are a Ukrop, a spineless person, or whatever.
    I don't have a problem with reasonable people, but I have always put conceited ones where they belong - and by force if necessary. I'm not the strongest, because there are even stronger than the strongest, but I'm not a coward.
    You are a worthless character. Invertebrates doubt and despair, and it often turns out that there are always more of them.
    People like you don't go to war or get killed by their own units because nobody needs cowards..
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    Post  PhSt Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:40 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    PhSt wrote:
    This is why its important to start dropping FOABs on major UkroNazi cities close to the front lines to cause disarray among NATzO terrorists

    Деееймн...
    For someone who is against Nazis you damn like to use Nazi methods...


    This has nothing to do with ideology, War is about destroying your enemy and winning, regardless of the method. The only effective way to win over a ruthless enemy is to be twice as ruthless.

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    Post  Werewolf Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:46 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Some chopper porn, anyone?


    Thank you for the nice video. I haven't been following for the upgrades of Attack Helicopters since quite some time and just now noticed that the Mi-35M/Mi-24VM3 upgrade has the "disco-ball" at the top right corner of the gunner's seat. Probably part of the new Helmet sight system, but could be wrong.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:47 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    PhSt wrote:
    This is why its important to start dropping FOABs on major UkroNazi cities close to the front lines to cause disarray among NATzO terrorists

    Деееймн...
    For someone who is against Nazis you damn like to use Nazi methods...

    Soviets didn't use Nazi methods against Nazis, guess who had more dead civilians after the war?





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    Post  Werewolf Sun Sep 25, 2022 5:48 pm

    PhSt wrote:
    This has nothing to do with ideology, War is about destroying your enemy and winning, regardless of the method. The only effective way to win over a ruthless enemy is to be twice as ruthless.

    Spare such tactics for the hot phase against PONOS countries volunteering to do the Kaliningrad blockade. You don't do that to your own population especially if you need to live with that afterwards.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:11 pm


    Where are the Iranian drones? Which general uses this senselessly far away from the front?

    Even the Wehrmacht had fire brigade units with Stug-III 1944 cut such front bubbles!
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:43 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    Serberus wrote:
    I don’t really care who likes my comments, everything I said is based on events reported or confirmed by reputable Russian sources, I don’t blindly ignore **** ups and provide constructive  criticism where it’s warranted nothing more. I wish for Russia to smash these Nazis as much as any of you but I am also going to call out unnecessary losses, poor tactical decisions and holding back for ridiculous reasons.
    Have a look at the events today, terrorist attack in Berdyansk and Melitopol bombing of civilian hotel in Kherson (former rada member confirmed dead) How many is that now? These fucks keep taking out civilian leaders who came over to Russian side, while the Nazi leadership is untouched because Russia refuses to take them out?  Why?… they should have been designated a terrorist state long ago and dismantled accordingly.

    It is a standard tactic of the losing side like forever.
    Ukraine can't fight a war, so turned to terror instead.
    Terror will be always louder and pictures, still hardly effective.
    Killing of Masha Dugina was a huge propaganda strike, still it brought the opposite effect. Russkies run havoc, with care blanche for special service to do anything needed to revenge her.
    They will find them and kill them.
    Just like the Chechen warlords were taken out one by one, let it be on the streets of Berlin, Vienna or Qatar.
    It took Russkie several years to calm finally down the Chechenyan issue, and it was done by so many means&ways that deserve a solid study. People were dying there only few years ago, but the war on terror was finally won.
    The very same scenario will be repeated now, and you will be amazed how the things will fall down like a house of cards, when they will only methodically taking out a bricks one by one.

    Besides, Ukros have a 300 years history of terror, it was unleashed against Poles and Russians, no matter who ruled them at the moment. Pre war Poland established a whole military structure called Border Protection Corp, KOP, to struggle with Ukro insurgency and terror.
    Soviets struggled with them well into 50s, and the real blow was carried by assassinations that physically liquidated some pillars in Canada.


    And why does Russia not resort to terror? does not put bombs in kyiv in civilian centers or kill military leaders with their services?
    The Azov should have been exterminated. And they were taken prisoner. Nationalist Ukrainians should be executed en masse so that a young Ukrainian is afraid to join any organization. Russia should be clear. Carte blanche to kill the Azov.

    It is incompetence or innocence.


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    Post  Belisarius Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:46 pm

    A Russian T-90M towing a captured T-72M1 from Polish supplies. Zaporozhye region.
    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/27079

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    Post  LMFS Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:48 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:

    C'mon...

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    Post  Backman Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:53 pm

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    We are now seeing the suicide drones strike with impunity in places like Odessa. This could indicate a complete lack of AA systems in many urban areas away from the frontlines. Russia should continue to strike infrastructure with these drones non stop. This will cause the Ukranians to withdraw their AA again from the fronts and hopefully expose them. At any rate, it was no secret that the Ukranian troops gathered AA systems near the frontline, as a response to these rather effective low altitude bombing runs (see video's from Kherson front to see how effective they can be). It was a matter of time untill they scored some hits. Now Russia is likely to adjust its tactics again

    Maybe part of the purpose of the Shahed 136 is to feel out air defenses. They fly pretty slow. But the reason for the highly aerodynamic profile is to gain speed when diving. And they do. Look at the footage. The dive is where they get their speed.

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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:55 pm

    Slovenia sending T55 tanks to Ukraine

    Seems the west has run out of T72s to send. I think this will cause some issues for Ukraine given the smaller gun caliber for them than their previous tanks.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:11 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:Slovenia sending T55 tanks to Ukraine
    Seems the west has run out of T72s to send.  I think this will cause some issues for Ukraine given the smaller gun caliber for them than their previous tanks.

    L7 can still be a potent gun, still I don't believe they will have a decent supply of ammo for them.
    The newest ones are Israeli, and Israel was already put on the wall for "not providing the weapon".
    What can be dug out from NATO warehouses is ancient stuff, that wouldn't do much harm to vanilla T-72M.
    For 72B3s and on, they can throw Zulu spears with the same result.
    Mir bro, you have some for handling? Laughing Laughing Laughing
    We can do ein gutes Gescheft!

    That thing is getting more and more ridiculous Laughing
    What is next, a 90mm Pattons from museums? dunno

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    Post  LMFS Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:14 pm

    Important to keep in mind in what context we are forming our opinions and the scale of professional interference we are facing:

    A covert online propaganda operation said to be the world’s largest promoting “pro-Western narratives” has been found to be operating primarily out of the United States, targeting Russia, China and Iran.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/23/exposed-covert-pro-western-info-op/

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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:20 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    L7 can still be a potent gun, still I don't believe they will have a decent supply of ammo for them.
    The newest ones are Israeli, and Israel was already put on the wall for "not providing the weapon".
    What can be dug out from NATO warehouses is ancient stuff, that wouldn't do much harm to vanilla T-72M.
    For 72B3s and on, they can throw Zulu spears with the same result.
    Mir bro, you have some for handling? Laughing Laughing Laughing
    We can do ein gutes Gescheft!

    That thing is getting more and more ridiculous Laughing
    What is next, a 90mm Pattons from museums? dunno

    I was meaning in lack of ammo for the caliber. I just poorly worded it so my bad. I do wonder if the Kiev regime has raided the tank musuem in Kiev? I've seen images of soviet tanks on display there. Also the LDPR militaries have previously captured a T54 and a T34-85 taken from monuments a few months ago.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:27 pm

    No no no, you have been perfectly clear.
    They don't have this ammo at all.
    Its stock is pathetic low in EU/US.
    Maybe Turks have some - will they share? Doubtfull.
    Maybe Greeks have some - will they share? Doubtfull.
    Israelis do have it - but won't share.

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    Post  Mir Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:28 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    L7 can still be a potent gun, still I don't believe they will have a decent supply of ammo for them.
    The newest ones are Israeli, and Israel was already put on the wall for "not providing the weapon".
    What can be dug out from NATO warehouses is ancient stuff, that wouldn't do much harm to vanilla T-72M.
    For 72B3s and on, they can throw Zulu spears with the same result.
    Mir bro, you have some for handling? Laughing Laughing Laughing
    We can do ein gutes Gescheft!

    That thing is getting more and more ridiculous Laughing
    What is next, a 90mm Pattons from museums? dunno

    Well we have Umkonto Wesizwe (MK) "The Spear of the Nation" but they are pretty useless nowadays - so sorry no "good business" Laughing

    We also had some Eland AML90 armoured cars. They managed to kill a a couple of T-54/55 back in the day but it was not an easy task! Well I see they are using the ASU-85 nowadays. How does that compare to the 90mm?

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:32 pm

    Just grab all the Zulu spears they are making there for tourists, it will be just fine!
    Add some shields, can be from the pigs leather, no need to kill those antelopes they used to make them out off Laughing
    A bulk offer is even better!
    Come and buy, come and buy, the victory is at the end of the umkhonto ... I mean the spear Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Mir wrote:Well I see they are using the ASU-85 nowadays. How does that compare to the 90mm?

    Soviets run the higher caliber already so the 85mm was left behind. They ceased to develop ammo for it back in 1943 already.
    Muricans pushed the 90mm cal well into 50s.


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    Post  Mir Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:37 pm

    Those tourist spears are all fake bro - not worth the effort, but yes you can sell it to the Ukrops any day! Laughing

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:38 pm

    Mir wrote:Those tourist spears are all fake bro - not worth the effort, but yes you can sell it to the Ukrops any day! Laughing

    That is just fine!
    Take them, bulk order, they will throw them at the Russkies and achieve the twitter victories anyway!

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    Post  Sujoy Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:43 pm

    I don't know if a Russian Su 30/ Su 34 was indeed shot down or if this is a propaganda video released by Ukraine.

    What I will say however is Russian fighter that are operating in a denied environment must be fitted with Towed decoys (against RF SAMs), MAWS and RF decoys

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:45 pm

    Sujoy my friend, please tell me: do you even bother to read what the other fellas said in the meantime when you was gone? scratch
    This plane was already discussed in detail.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:47 pm

    ARE THEY AS STUPID AS THEY LOOK? BY HELMHOLTZ SMITH

    24 September 2022 by HELMHOLTZ SMITH 64 Comments

    The Russian military takes chips from dishwashers and refrigerators to fix the military hardware because there are no semiconductors anymore.
    Some miscellaneous Euroweinie
    appointed to a job with a much bigger salary than yours
    and no worries about the lack of hot water this winter.

    There was some discussion in the comments on Larry’s recent post about whether the rulers of the West could really be as stupid as they appear to be.

    The short answer is this – how have things been going in the West since the “unipolar moment”? Are we all happier healthier and richer? Is the Western world better off? Stronger? More peaceful? Longer-lived? Of course it isn’t. Not better and actually worse for most. The conclusion is inescapable – either the West’s rulers have seriously screwed it up or they actually want it to be this way.

    We’ll explore the first possible answer. (Maybe we are ruled by lizardoid aliens or a cabal of greedy bankers – given the last three decades you can’t rule it out but, following Hanlan’s Razor, I’ll stick with stupid).

    Or whatever word you would apply to someone who believes that the Russian Army needs your dishwasher to make hyper-sonic missiles. And even if she doesn’t believe it but says it anyway, what’s the word for that? Surely some variant of stupid.

    Here we are in September 2022 looking down the barrel of the Russian gun, doubling down on support for a corrupt regime in a bankrupt failed state infested with Nazis, running out of weapons, facing economic decline (collapse even – name an industry that doesn’t need energy or a person that doesn’t need food), a cold winter, rising inflation. Does that sound like something designed by smart people? And it didn’t just suddenly happen – it’s been building for years.

    Arrogance and stupidity. Our rulers live in a tongue-bath of pleasing illusion. Russia is weak and feeble but we are strong and mighty. Putin is a dictator surrounded by hungry under-bosses but we are democratic leaders of free populations. He kills people but we do humanitarian bombing. The Russian economy desperately needs the money it makes selling energy to Europe but we can easily turn the thermostat down a bit for a month or two and bankrupt it. As a former Austrian water-colorist once said “You only have to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down”.

    Crashing Russia will be easy. It doesn’t make anything – gas station masquerading as a country. rapidly aging and shrinking population – Weak Country with a Nuclear Arsenal – Russia’s Weak Strongman – Russia’s Strength Is Its Weakness. And lots more where those came from. As Hitler said, just one kick – stop buying their gas, they’ll hang Putin and come crawling back.

    Our rulers have been surrounded for years by people telling them this. Anyone who said that Russia has a big and very self-sufficient economy, that Putin is quite popular and at least half of his critics think he’s too soft, that money from gas sales to Europe are nice but there are lots of other customers, that you can’t be secure unless the other guy feels secure – what happened to them? You know the answer. They never got the chance to tell the bosses this and they never got in the door. And, when they did say these things – on the fringes far away from “trusted sources” and “fact checkers” – they were condemned as Putin apologists and their social media accounts were blocked. After all you can’t give a platform to disinformation when there’s so much real information from real experts like Martin Walker who told us in 2006 “But strategically, Russia’s real weaknesses are getting worse and its non-oil economy is lagging ever further behind its Indian and Chinese rivals.” Stupid or smart, the bosses were only told one thing by everyone who got to them and year after year they ignored all the counter evidence. That’s stupid. But it’s pleasing, especially to mediocre minds, to be told that you’ve got both might and right in your corner and your skillful management and nuanced understanding deserve another pay raise. For years, the same old stuff, over and over amplified and repeated – just one kick.

    A couple of days ago stupid became really stupid.

    The Foreign Ministers of the European Union… agreed to prepare new sanctions against Russia… also agreed to send more weapons to Ukraine.

    Or, following Einstein, should we start saying insane?

    https://sonar21.com/are-they-as-stupid-as-they-look-by-helmholtz-smith/

    I would only add that there are two levels here:

    1) Top Anglo establishment which is indeed taking well thought steps to eliminate their rivals in Eurasia and accordingly appoints...
    2) Astronomically stupid, mediocre scum as leaders of the EU to oversee its demolition and transformation into a concentration camp

    Both of them should know by now that their heads will roll sooner or later

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