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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:46 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    ALAMO wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    The following is just my opinion and therefore not authoritative;
    All tanks are very heavy vehicles, which would be particularly evident on the soil of Ukroshitstan because it is not an Iraqi wasteland.

    Good luck using a tank weighing 62+ tons in a road system, where bridges were built deliberately to carry less Laughing Laughing

    Abrams was designed for Euro plains, intended to meet the advancing soviet tank formations.

    So they would work fine in ukraine and most bridges can carry them easily.

    Are you sure about that Seig?

    A while back I read an article about road transport and the problems of running much heavier than the EU max truck weight of 44 tons is that very large numbers of Ukraine's bridges are rated at 46 tons.

    Abrams may have been originally designed for that objective but did it include driving on the roads back to Moscow? Also, as Russia wasn't regarded as much of a threat in Europe for the past 30 or so years, was that requirement reduced in priority as the tank's weight increased from 54 tons of the M1 to 62 tons for the M1A2?

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:49 pm

    franco wrote:Russians With Attitude
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    Aiden Aslin along with 10 other western mercs were released from DPR/Russian prisons and sent to Saudi Arabia that served as a mediator

    Aslin was "sentenced to death" in DPR (there were not a single death penalty executed in DPR). This was a circus from the start

    NOTE: does anyone have more information re this?
    Nothing much is reported aside from what Reuters did. Russians didn't communicate anything per usual.
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    Post  calripson Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:00 pm

    Arkanghelsk wrote:NATO will escalate, the comments of nuclear weapons aren't without reason

    NATO expects retaliation once Ukraine uses long range weapons on Russian cities

    It is not without reason MI6 comments on tactical nuclear strikes by russian military

    So far western intel was spot on with regard to the SMO , mobilization, and now they speak of nuclear strikes

    As I have stated, forcing Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons is a dream scenario for the Deep State and its financial backers. Nothing better for them than a completely isolated Russia - including from China- eventually brought to heel with a condition of readmittance to the "family of nations" of complete denuclearization. Russia's strategic potential has always been a major bone in their throat - an obvious barrier to the fulfillment of the 1991 Wolfowitz Doctrine of full spectrum dominance. Note that their calculations are predicated upon their conviction that Putin will never risk strategic war with the West. A rather reckless assumption that puts the lives of tens of millions of their citizens at risk.

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    Post  Ispan Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:01 pm

    Brief report today but with a couple analysis and videos

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/09/21/parte-de-guerra-21-09-2022/

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:10 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    franco wrote:Russians With Attitude
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    Aiden Aslin along with 10 other western mercs were released from DPR/Russian prisons and sent to Saudi Arabia that served as a mediator

    Aslin was "sentenced to death" in DPR (there were not a single death penalty executed in DPR). This was a circus from the start

    NOTE: does anyone have more information re this?
    Nothing much is reported aside from what Reuters did. Russians didn't communicate anything per usual.

    Can't find the Reuters' report.
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    Post  franco Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:11 pm

    Mobilized forces to undergo training by officers with combat experience — senior lawmaker

    The training will take place on Russian territory, Andrey Kartapolov said

    MOSCOW, September 21. /TASS/. People covered by the partial mobilization will undergo training by officers with special military operation combat experience before being sent to the special military operation area, says Andrey Kartapolov, head of the State Duma Defense Committee.

    "The training will take place on Russian territory, on Defense Ministry military grounds, under guidance of experienced officers who have combat experience and the special military operation experience," the lawmaker said on RBC TV channel Wednesday.

    He also noted that the Defense Ministry’s decision to mobilize exactly 300,000 reservists is motivated by capabilities for provision of social guarantees, among other things.

    "The 300,000 figure is not random; it was calculated in detail, grounded, based on our equipment and provision capabilities, including provision of social guarantees for the mobilized people. It was also calculated for the period of completion of goals that will be set. If the Defense Ministry announced this figure today, then it reasonably believes that this is enough," the senior lawmaker said.

    On September 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on partial mobilization. In his address to the Russians he noted that the contact line in the special military operation area "exceeds one thousand kilometers," adding that the joint forces stand against "not only the neo-Nazi forces, but effectively the entire military machine of the collective West," which threatens Russia’s very existence. Russian Defense Minister said that the 300,000 reservists will be mobilized and will undergo training before being sent to the special military operation area. The Minister underscored that the mobilization is being carried out primarily for control over the territories liberated during the special military operation.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:12 pm

    Ispan wrote:Brief report today but with a couple analysis and videos

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/09/21/parte-de-guerra-21-09-2022/

    Part of war 09/21/2022
    21 September, 2022 Zhukov

    Summary of Cassad

    1. In the direction of Avdeyevka, without significant progress.
    Fight in the area of Pervomaisk and Peski.

    Comment: a Ukrainian counterattack in Peski ended with a bloody failure similar to the "suicide attacks" on the Kherson front (see below), with a hundred dead

    Video

    https://t.me/RtrDonetsk/9563

    2. In the area of Marinka and Ugledar - unchanged.
    Positional battles with slow attempts by the Forces of Ukraine to test the possibility of advancing in the Pavlovka and Nikolsky area.

    3. In the Artemovsk area, fighting on the Artemovsk-Dzerzhinsk and Zaitsevo highway.
    There are battles on the outskirts of Artemivsk.
    In Soledar, without significant progress.

    4. The fight continues for Spornoye and Belogorovka.
    The enemy continues to try to advance in the direction of Kremennaya.

    5. In the direction of Slavyansk, the enemy continues to try to attack Krasny Liman and Yampol.
    There are battles for Drobyshevo and Yarovaya.

    6. The front in Oskol has relatively stabilized.
    Fighting is underway in the eastern part of Kupyansk.
    The enemy continues to press on Rubtsi
    On the border with Russia, the shelling of border villages continues. Russian forces attack Kharkiv and Chuguev.

    7. In the Zaporozhe direction - no changes.
    The enemy continues to explore the possibility of starting an advance in the direction of Vasilyevka, Tokmak and Pologi.

    8. In the direction of Nikolayev, no changes.
    After the disaster with the attack on Pravdino, the offensive ardor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine increased.
    Positional battles continue at the Andreevsky bridgehead.
    In the area of Arkhangelsk and Olgino - unchanged.

    Comment:

    Video

    https://t.me/Oleg_Blokhin/57609

    Ukrainian armored personnel carriers captured as a result of the unsuccessful offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on one of the sections of the Mykolaiv-Krivoy Rog direction.

    AFU soldiers and foreign mercenaries are being led like sheep to the slaughterhouse. 120 deadin a matter of hours of combat, and this is not to mention the wounded and prisoners. Among the dead are Polish citizens. Several passports were found.

    The video does not show all the captured material. I want to note that they are intact. The enemies simply abandoned them and fled.

    A member of the resistance confirms casualties on the Kherson front, hospitals are overcrowded

    https://ria.ru/20220921/bolnitsy-1818312383.html



    Analysis of Yuri Podolyak

    https://antimaydan.info/2022/09/urij_podolyaka_vsu_gotovyat_ataku_na_dvuh_napravleniyah.html

    The next two weeks will be crucial.

    Judging by the information that is being received, Kiev, realizing that time is playing against it, and after Russia's decision to conduct a partial mobilization, is very seriously playing against it, the Kiev regime decided to bet everything on one move.

    Taking advantage of the current advantage in tropasa, prepare two attacks in the very near future (counting by days, if not by hours). The first in the Kharkov direction, the second in the Zaporozhe direction.

    The goal of the first attack is to break the front line and push back the allied forces from the northern regions of the LNR and finish taking control of the Kharkov region, as well as the Krasny Liman-Kremennaya district.

    The purpose of the second is to defeat the Russian units north of Melitopol and occupy the city, with additional access to the coast of the Sea of Azov.

    Kiev has almost no chance of such a major success, but after the recent events in Russia, it can no longer wait. In a month, all the camps will become impassable by mud, and then the Russian troops will quickly eliminate the superiority of the enemy in personnel and only then attack (in a strategic sense).

    Hence this decision. In general, we are waiting for the enemy's blows and remember that we only need to withstand his onslaught for a week, two at most. If there is no rapid breakthrough, it will mean the end of hopes for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, for a more or less successful outcome of the 2022 campaign and ... agony during the 2023 campaign.



    Russian attacks on the Pechenezh reservoir in the Kharkov region

    For the second day in a row, Ukrainian channels are reporting on the attacks of the Russian armed forces on the dam of the Pechenezh reservoir. Despite the lack of objective control images showing the facts of the attacks on the dam, the shelling of the dam in Seversky Donets is not illogical from a military point of view. But only in the short term.

    Given the withdrawal of Russian forces from the Kharkov region and attempts by Ukrainians to build crossings and capture Krasny Lyman, as well as develop an offensive on Kremennaya and Lysychansk, raising the water level in the river could be a temporary solution to partially "freeze" the front line.

    Yes, it would raze the established crossings, partially flood the coastal settlements and possibly force the Ukrainian units to relocate along the banks of the Seversky Donets River.

    In the future, crossings, especially after rains in autumn, will be much more difficult for Ukrainian forces to pass. After the withdrawal of the water level, the problem of flooded seabeds and floodplains will remain. This problem will also have to be solved.

    Finally, the Ukrainian formations have to build the crossings without gravel and not along the dry riverbed.

    At the same time, however, the river level will fall upstream. In the Khotomli region, Stary Saltov, Rubizhnoye, Volchansk and on the Russian-Ukrainian border, it will be easier to cross the river there.

    Therefore, if the Russian forces destroy the Pechenezh dam, it should be done as soon as possible, for example, to cut off and defeat the enemy grouping between Seversky Donets and skol. Because the effect of such blows will be canceled over time.

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    Post  franco Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:14 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    caveat emptor wrote:
    franco wrote:Russians With Attitude
    @RWApodcast

    Aiden Aslin along with 10 other western mercs were released from DPR/Russian prisons and sent to Saudi Arabia that served as a mediator

    Aslin was "sentenced to death" in DPR (there were not a single death penalty executed in DPR). This was a circus from the start

    NOTE: does anyone have more information re this?
    Nothing much is reported aside from what Reuters did. Russians didn't communicate anything per usual.

    Can't find the Reuters' report.

    Just spotted this...

    AZ 🛰🌏🌍🌎
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    ‼🇸🇦🇷🇺Russia releases 10 prisoners of war through the mediation of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia

    Saudi Arabia participated as an intermediary for the release of foreign mercenaries who fought in Ukraine. These are citizens of the US,UK, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco-Reuters‼

    The photo of the mercenaries appeared after the exchange. They're in Saudi Arabia

    https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1572647309665570816/photo/1

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    Post  Hole Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:16 pm

    0nillie0 wrote:Good thing you are not consistently proven to be full of crap every other page since you crawled from under your rock when Syria hit off...
    Oh wait...
    Suspect

    I look forward to see the nimble Abrams perform in Ukraine... This will be fine Twisted Evil
    Kornet doesn´t care if it´s a T-64, Leo2 or M1. 

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:17 pm

    It is even worse than that
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    https://t.me/milinfolive/90835

    Ukraine also received, as a result of the exchange, Azov commanders Denis Prokopenko, Svyatoslav Palamar and a marine commander from Sergei Volynsky.

    No comment.
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    Post  Hole Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:18 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Jesus fuckin' Christ, go and be stupid somewhere else, finally!
    No, they won't you bloody moron, as the whole road, rail & transport system in ALL ex-WarPac countries was made to have one-way flow only.
    You have no bloody idea what that means, as you live in a shithole where bridges are made of iron, because grandpa Roosevelt ordered the jobless mob to carry the slabs.
    Most of the bridges are made with MLC60 standard, which makes them incapable to carry more than 50 tons, and 55 tons max. That attribute is  MAXIMAL, which means that ONE vessel can cross it ONE WAY, not heavier than 50t.
    All western fuckin' vehicles are TOO BIG for both the bridges and the railroad system. Carrying out any maneuvers is a logistic challenge, as the tanks - both Leopard and M1 - are to high to fit some railroad tunnels. An APC with side screens attached is TOO WIDE to fit the tunnels or to bypass the other train coming in another direction.
    There have already been railroad/road accidents due of that.
    Aside of the fact that the US moron crews are so stupid that can't fit the lane to cross the bridge, it turns out that he speaks no English when the police come to the scene.
    And we are an example of GIANT reconstruction since we joined NATO 20 (!!) years ago, with HUGE investments in the railroad and road infrastructure, that didn't help much - we can transport some stuff, in peace time, doubling the range as the special road must be taken.
    Now put an Ukropistan here.
    Not YOU, as you are too dumb.
    I speak for the brain having part.
    There are even weight issues with roads and brigdes in the western parts of Germany.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:18 pm

    Fucking scumbags. They gave these pricks for old hag Medvedev it seems and 55 Russian fighters. Tomorrow another 30 Ukrainians will be freed.


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    Post  Hole Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:19 pm

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    Don´t know if this was posted before, a train somewhere around Kharkov has been hit. Supposedly Tornado-S.

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    Post  Hole Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:21 pm

    franco wrote:
    Just spotted this...

    AZ 🛰🌏🌍🌎
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    ‼🇸🇦🇷🇺Russia releases 10 prisoners of war through the mediation of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia

    Saudi Arabia participated as an intermediary for the release of foreign mercenaries who fought in Ukraine. These are citizens of the US,UK, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco-Reuters‼

    The photo of the mercenaries appeared after the exchange. They're in Saudi Arabia

    https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1572647309665570816/photo/1

    This is a goody for MBS. It will keep the oil price high for the next winter.

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    Post  Werewolf Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:32 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Well Python, good luck.

    If you are called up, I got a list of items I need you to grab for me while you are sent to the frontlines.  Don't worry, I will send ya the money one way or another.

    A Luger?
    A Nazi-Scalp?
    A Javelin or NLAW?
    A Reichs-Jugend Dagger or some SS-LARPer's Boots?

    Tell me!

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    Post  Backman Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:38 pm

    Isos wrote:
    franco wrote:Russians With Attitude
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    d to death" in DPR (there were not a single death penalty executed in DPR). This was a circus from the start

    NOTE: does anyone have more information re this?

    They exchanged him for someone or for money.

    Oh yeah. Money. Get bent. He was exchanged for prisoners. He's a high profile prisoner that the British PM has mentioned by name and you think some two bit DPR general sold him for some hooker money. Yeah


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    Post  thegopnik Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:39 pm

    Looking at female face on bottom left I guess Russia doesnt gang bang female POWs.

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    Post  psg Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:42 pm

    If he python is called up, I wish him and all his brothers in arms and the whole forces a speedy return and crushing victory, like the forefathers before, during the great patriotic war. Raise the banner high for the world to see, bring victory back to the motherland, once again. May God bless you all.

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    Post  Regular Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:50 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Fucking scumbags. They gave these pricks for old hag Medvedev it seems and 55 Russian fighters. Tomorrow another 30 Ukrainians will be freed.

    Hey, watch how you address the future president of Ukraine.

    Aiden Aslin and another brit that I don't recall were released too. Finally, Ukraine buckled down, but only after when Aiden got 58 death sentences.

    I wonder if any Russian pilots were freed too? Or that dude tankist who was sentenced for life. All Russian POWs need to be extracted as soon as possible, 30 Ukrainian soldiers or some foreigners mean very little now, no point to marinate them, they are only good for exchanging as all political pressure doesn't seem to work

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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:01 am

    Regular wrote:
    Hey, watch how you address the future president of Ukraine.

    Aiden Aslin and another brit that I don't recall were released too. Finally, Ukraine buckled down, but only after when Aiden got 58 death sentences.

    I wonder if any Russian pilots were freed too? Or that dude tankist who was sentenced for life. All Russian POWs need to be extracted as soon as possible, 30 Ukrainian soldiers or some foreigners mean very little now, no point to marinate them, they are only good for exchanging as all political pressure doesn't seem to work
    I have a problem with them releasing Azov commanders. 
    As for Russians that were exchanged, per rybar, one LTC, one major, 6 junior officers, 4 warrant officers, 40 low rank and privates, 2 from DNR and 1 from LNR. It seems that Ukrainians don't take militias as POWs.


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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:03 am

    I believe that this was LTC captured around Balakleya.
    Also, additional 32 Russian servicemen will be released tomorrow.


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    Post  caveat emptor Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:05 am

    Strana ua quoted Yermak (take with pinch of salt) that altogether 215 Ukrainians were released, of them 108 from Azov.
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    Post  Regular Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:16 am

    caveat emptor wrote:Strana ua quoted Yermak (take with pinch of salt) that altogether 215 Ukrainians were released, of them 108 from Azov.

    Makes no sense call Azov nazi war criminals and release even top brass. I mean, pragmatically speaking, they will most likely end up fighting against Russia again.

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