Russian special military operation in Ukraine #20

At least this increases chances of Moscow hosting gay pride parade soon, they owe at least that much to their heroes, they changed their lifestyle thanks to Russian Military pussyfooting so it's least they could do for them

You mean like Serbias pussy footing that led to the new Albanian state in Europe called Kosovo... that was all Serbias fault for doing things wrong... poor innocent HATO and the US and Germany were forced to kill Serbs until those poor innocent KLA were free from evil Serbian oppression... and so they look like the bad guys until you take a closer look and realise every single Serbian was to blame for that... the KLA were totally innocent and all their terrorism and acts of inhumanity were justified by Serbian actions...  

Blame Putin and the Russian military all you want... nothing they did justified what those Nazis in Kiev and their henchmen did... for the last 8 years or the last few months... and they are now getting theirs.

(Edit and obviously the Serbs did make some mistakes but the situation regarding Kosovo was all about the west in general and the US in particular... the US runs the gang so nothing happens without their approval...)

Just because some ideologically motivated fools didn't realise what was happening till it was displayed in full colour video... well I would think trapping people in a building and burning the building down and shooting anyone trying to escape for the crime of speaking Russian said all that was needed to be said...

Yes it was in range which was perfect opportunity to exterminate everything on the coastline which would try to get into position to shoot

Wow... what a military genius you are... you are suggesting putting artillery on that tiny island to shoot at Ukrainian artillery on the coast... you do understand what makes mobile artillery effective is that first word... mobile... being able to fire and then move away from the area you fired from is how the game is played... doing it from a tiny island would be dumb as ****.... there would be dozens of places along the coastline the Orcs could roll up with a rocket launcher or gun and fire a few rockets or shells and then move and fire again... from a tiny island there would be no place to move to... in fact the first few volleys they could shell your location and then the rest of their volleys could just target the rest of the island... it is that small.

But instead they turn tails and ran, I'm sure families of soldiers who died for nothing there are appreciating this

You miserable bastard. You want more families to lose their sons because of your pride.... the island is worthless now they stopped trying to land on it, because they are not killing Orcs spec ops troops any more... they are just receiving shells.

You want to send a message to the orcs send them your blood.

Killing maximum possible amount of enemies is always a good thing, it's how you win wars

No not at all.... otherwise the Japs won WWII and the Germans did too, but in this case it is the human population of the Ukraine that is the problem... they have been indoctrinated to hate Russia and Russians.... the quickest cure is to eliminate the most rabid and most far gone, and those that remain might learn the right lesson... if they don't let them run to Europe like the dregs of all their other failed experiments.

A bit off topic but wasn't sure where to post seems Latvia is now going to tear down all Soviet monuments.

That is OK... Russia should build more monuments, and perhaps build a monument theme park showing the monuments in different cities of Europe including which were torn down and which political leaders were in power when they were torn down... a tangible record of ignorance and hate from the west towards Russia and Ironically the Soviet Union.

The Baltic states elder citizens have a lot of anger against Russia because of the WW2 occupation of their countries to gain strategic access to their Baltic sea ports, which don't freeze as easily due to the high salt content of the waters, however, many people in the Baltic states married Russians, so it must be very frustrating to see this recent manufactured hate.

Yeah, because the west will treat them so much better... listening stations for HATO and rendition sites to keep kidnapped enemies of the US without charge and torture them.

Except 3 of the 5 were fucking Ukrainians from Kharkov

Bandera is an asshole

Their mentality is that you run to Russia then you are Russian.

Just means that Ukraine will lose more in the end anyway.

They said at the start this is the deal... the more shit you pull and the longer your draw it out the worse the deal gets for you... I am pretty sure we are well past the stage where Zelensky gets to live.

demonstrates how just close HIMARS can come to the front

It is essentially a truck and they likely don't drive around with a big crosshair on it saying we are carrying rockets... they will have taken steps to camouflage it with a tarp or something...

they run out of kalibr missiles to kalibrate HIMARS or no?

Calibre is a land attack cruise missile... HIMARS is a truck mounted rocket launcher like Uragan or Smerch.

At some stage they will be parked and then they will get a visit from Kalibr, Iskander or that new shiny missile with TV and UAV datalink that visited few warehouses recently (Yes, I will mention UAVs all the time)

A couple of MALEs with Kornets on board operating at 8-10km altitude would be very useful for picking off targets of opportunity... obviously being in the right place at the right time would be unlikely but a rocket launch is not easy to hide and would draw the camera and therefore generate coordinates you could send attack helicopters to pretty quickly... the MALE could find the targets when they launch and then continue to track them until they can get a helicopter within 6km of them and take them out with ATGMs.

Towed guns are better engaged with rockets because the crew will be half a dozen men out in the open and probably a truck too, but a rocket launcher should be hit with an ATGM to destroy the vehicle and any vehicle with reload rockets nearby.

Those kind of talking is pretty much teenager chitchat without any knowledge about demographic development of those countries.

Russia has no problems with current boundaries in that area and are not looking to expand the Russian Federation.

Small parts of Ukraine that have been abused by Kiev and had no help or respect from the west or the rest of the world for that matter now seem to want to join the Russian Federation as protection from the west which seems dead set on declaring them Russia and killing them.

Under such circumstances I can understand them wanting to join the RF simply to prevent a repeat of recent history.

Their suffering was totally ignored by the west who encouraged and armed and trained Kiev to continue baiting the Bear.

Productivity improves greatly when you are not being shelled every day, or used as human shields.

And when your border to your main customer reopens things can change for the better too.

Erk wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Just been calculating. This is pretty crazy.

To put into context how important various oblasts are to Ukraine GDP.
(Figures taken in 2019)

Ukrainian GDP €125.9 billion.

1 Kiev city €30.0 billion
2 Dnipropetrovsk Oblast €12.4 billion
3 Kharkiv Oblast €7.8 billion
4 Kyiv Oblast €6.9 billion
5 Lviv Oblast billion €6.8 billion
6 Donetsk Oblast €6.5 billion
7 Odessa Oblast €6.2 billion
8 Poltava Oblast billion €5.9 billion
9 Zaporizhzhia Oblast €4.9 billion
10 Vinnytsia Oblast €4.1 billion
11 Cherkasy Oblast €3.3 billion
12 Mykolaiv Oblast €2.9 billion
13 Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast €2.7 billion
14 Zhytomyr Oblast €2.7 billion
15 Khmelnytskyi Oblast €2.6 billion
16 Chernihiv Oblast €2.5 billion
17 Sumy Oblast €2.4 billion
18 Volyn Oblast €2.4 billion
19 Kirovohrad Oblast €2.3 billion
20 Rivne Oblast €2.1 billion
21 Kherson Oblast €2.0 billion
22 Zakarpattia Oblast €1.9 billion
23 Ternopil Oblast €1.8 billion
24 Chernivtsi Oblast €1.3 billion
25 Luhansk Oblast €1.3 billion

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The point I would like to make is GDP is not a measure of Productivity as the name implies, it should be called GDS (Gross Domestic Spending) as it only considers the movement of money, not goods and services. As with most countries, some areas of Ukraine are far more productive than others, where as they might have much lower spending.

Suspect the Donetsk and Luhansk regions GDP would only include those areas under Ukrainian control. Believe prior to 2014 Donetsk was the highest.

The agony of the West by Thierry Meyssan

Sergey Lavrov used to compare the West to a wounded predator. According to him, it should not be provoked because it would be taken by madness and could break everything. It is better to accompany it to the graveyard. The West does not see it that way. Washington and London are leading a crusade against Moscow and Beijing. They roar and are ready for anything. But what can they really do?

Not sure correct place for this but here is the full article, good read: https://www.voltairenet.org/article217555.html

Backman wrote:

I agree. But they should start bombing government buildings. Make an example of one. Kalibrate the mayors office of Dnepropetrovsk. Then move onto another one if it continues. Keep going until the shelling stops or all the ppl of this regime are dead.

Roscosmos took pictures of the Pentagon, and whitehouse with the caption "decision making centers". Making these kinds of threats doesn't register with the US. If they did, this war wouldn't be happening in the first place. Bombing the govt buildings in Kiev is better than threatening to bomb the Pentagon.

The GRU has sent enough messages

Those Kalibr strikes are given once GRU clears the presence of foreign mercenaries in Ukraine

I am not sure if they call the Pentagon to verify presence of NATO, but those guys are disavowed by Pentagon anyway and end up on a cargo 200 list that is not reported to the American public

All the Russian agencies are making their presence known

Roskomnadzor and the NSA are at it as well, anonymous and killnet fight the good fight

While SVR has something planned for CIA as well

Then the FBI and FSB have their hands full at home

But with the RkN and NSA, both sides are watching their populations with scrutiny

Backman wrote:Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the headquarters of the "Caucasian Legion"

Russian combat helicopters destroyed the headquarters of the militants of the "Caucasian Legion" fighting on the side of the Kyiv regime.  This was reported on social networks by Georgian mercenaries.

The "Caucasian Legion" was formed relatively recently.  It includes fighters from the Caucasus, mostly Georgian citizens.

https://t.me/intelslava/32579

This is what the US does. It finds these groups of terrorist/paramilitaries. Gives them funding , makes a slick looking logo for them , along with a good uniform. And it all looks very attractive to young men who have nothing going for them and want to be part of something.

The Kraken and the Caucases Legion are just the most recent example.

And you think Incel shootings are random too? Yesterday July 4th, Pindo celebrations turned ugly

Maybe they are random, maybe Maria butina really does love guns lmao

SVR giving them a run for their money

https://militarymaps.info/pay

Here is a link to the military maps provided by Russian sources

Clear the pay wall, have fun

https://m.vk.com/topic-70903182_35680363

That's the VK account with instructions for download

Regular wrote:

JohninMK wrote:
Azovstal and the other plants in Mariupol must have been a big contributor to that figure. Take them out and the other industrial sites now beyond repair and Donetsk becomes much less significant.

No more Azovstal. It will be dismantled and turned into park.

Mariupol suffered from it's pollution for far too long. Locals hated that place, both smell and water damage. I spoke with some of the locals online and they said they only worry about workplaces after the war. It's understandable, I hope it won't turn into Detroit.

A Democrat isn't in power in Marioupol so it won't turn into Cleveland or Detroit.

Brute force ? Except Russia fights numerically superior opponent

The Russian airforce has performed actually the best in SEAD missions recently

Consider that VKS has lost less than 10 aircraft against the best defended IADS in the world second to Russia

If you want to use VSU hitting a gas depot , or hitting a house with Ukrainian refugees in it

What does that say for USAF that allowed 4 airliners to kill 3000 Americans?



If only USAF had properly used drones maybe it would have stopped them

Hahahaha