Russian special military operation in Ukraine #19
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caveat emptor wrote:I agree with you. As usual whole truth will come out only after war is over.GunshipDemocracy wrote:
8 years of CIA directed work to prevent such scenario I presume. What did they expect? Pro Russians either bought, threatened or just eliminated.
..but our corrupt corporate MSM will dutifully ignore the truth and instead create new narratives to confuse and deflect people. Remember how the failure to find WMDs in Iraq lead the media to conclude there must have been an "intelligence failure" rather than the obvious truth of USgov lies and malfeasance to engineer a war of choice?
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Big_Gazza wrote:caveat emptor wrote:I agree with you. As usual whole truth will come out only after war is over.GunshipDemocracy wrote:
8 years of CIA directed work to prevent such scenario I presume. What did they expect? Pro Russians either bought, threatened or just eliminated.
..but our corrupt corporate MSM will dutifully ignore the truth and instead create new narratives to confuse and deflect people. Remember how the failure to find WMDs in Iraq lead the media to conclude there must have been an "intelligence failure" rather than the obvious truth of USgov lies and malfeasance to engineer a war of choice?
The "media" is a sock puppet and was simply pushing another propaganda narrative to cover up the exposed BS of the previous propaganda narrative.
The US government is also a sock puppet and all the lemmings who think that all their guns, worship of the "free market" (aka oligarchical robber baron
capitalism), and "checks and balances" keeps the totalitarianism at bay are terminally deluded.
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Big_Gazza wrote:caveat emptor wrote:I agree with you. As usual whole truth will come out only after war is over.GunshipDemocracy wrote:
8 years of CIA directed work to prevent such scenario I presume. What did they expect? Pro Russians either bought, threatened or just eliminated.
..but our corrupt corporate MSM will dutifully ignore the truth and instead create new narratives to confuse and deflect people. Remember how the failure to find WMDs in Iraq lead the media to conclude there must have been an "intelligence failure" rather than the obvious truth of USgov lies and malfeasance to engineer a war of choice?
What the yankee and zionist shit did in Iraq is one of the great crimes in human history. They devastated a country for chemical weapons that they never found and that they later denied.
They devastated innocent lives and historical museums of the origins of humanity. A piece in the Baghdad museum had more cultural value than the entire United States.
And all the decadent liberal democracies in the West cannot criticize the motherland Russia, which fights for its due.
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caveat emptor wrote:Easy there tiger. Step by step. Kharkov will not be easy target unless Ukrainians decide to retreat. Which doesn't look like the case atm. Also Zaporozhye and, more importantly, Dnepropetrovsk will be even harder. Dnepropetrovsk is run by Kolomoisky and his clan and they will fight tooth and nail to prevent it.Arkanghelsk wrote:
But we are still far from this scenario, but we are assured NATO has something in works
The area footprint of the fights in these cities wont be as big as it was in Mariupol. The military and ideological forces have been thinned out to say the least
Zelensky issued a directive June 25th, that all reserves from Nikolayev, Odessa, and Kharkov be transferred to the Lisichansk fortified area
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Arkhangelsk:
What are Russians going to do with fortified urban areas like Kharkov?
Same as Aleppo. Same as Mariupol. Surround the militants , opn humanitarian corridors. Offer surrender to some of the retards. The city battles will probably be easier than this trench warfare going on in the Donbass.
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ArgentinaGuard wrote:Excuse me. What was the name of that telegram channel that reported on the caves of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis in Mariupol? It was run by a young Russian journalist. They had shown it on the forum and I lost it.
WarGonzo mb?
https://t.me/wargonzo
Or was it in the English language?
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owais.usmani wrote:
Yet it is just another example of how they are being delusional.
It is obviously not "their best spell", but they must name the things this way because the other way would suggest that lied all the time.
Donbas operation is a strain of tactical victories and gains, settled in a way to spare soldiers' lives at the expense of extraordinary firepower. And was like that just from the beginning.
And from the very start of the conflict, Russkies achieved a big strategic gain crossing Dnepr from the south, and establishing themselves safely there.
Ruskies have the opponent exactly in a place they want them to be, with short supply routes and strong support both on the ground and in the back.
It is Donbas where Ukros need to transfer all the supply 1000 km along with the entire Ukro territory, being under constant suppression of the Russian missiles. Ukrs will be bled white there, at Russian rules.
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As time passes, it looks to me, more and more, that some of the preliminary analysis of Ukrainian army willingness to fight were misplaced and wrong. Maybe, based on wrong information coming from the field or superiors that didn't believe correct information.
Honestly if they had been smart and surrendered straight away most would have gotten away with crimes already committed due to lack of evidence and within a few years it would all have to be done again.
If you are stupid enough to think you can just take a rifle and defeat the Russian Army and Air Force and Navy then give it a go.... those western weapons wont do much at all... in fact most are inferior to their soviet equivalents anyway.... but use them by all means... it makes you easier to spot... note the men sending you out to kill Russians in huge numbers don't go anywhere near the front line with you... they likely don't even bother to take the time to learn names anymore.
But keep fighting.... Russia has a lot of ammo.
And with this NATO will face a choice, to enter and assist Poland in capturing Halychyna (Galicia)
HATO wont enter this conflict.
LGBTQ rally in Warsaw in support of Nazi AZOV battalion.
Showing their true colours.... that is irony... and sad.
Makes me think of the warning.... be careful what you wish for...
The "media" is a sock puppet and was simply pushing another propaganda narrative to cover up the exposed BS of the previous propaganda narrative.
The US government is also a sock puppet and all the lemmings who think that all their guns, worship of the "free market" (aka oligarchical robber baron
capitalism), and "checks and balances" keeps the totalitarianism at bay are terminally deluded.
Done on purpose... the truth meant the US lost the Vietnam war, and they decided then that it was all the fault of the media revealing the truth... they sorted out that so the western media will never tell the truth again...
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https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_197080.htm?selectedLocale=en
That's expensive, knowing the NATO markup on everything.
Why are they suddenly doing this?
Are they going to go into Ukraine when they said they wouldn't repeatedly?
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The Washington gang/WEF support Islamic terrorism (ISIS and Al Qaeda), homo-ism and tranney-ism (but not usually at their private schools and to their kids) and Nazism.
Yet preach "Liberalism".
Its about getting someone else to do your dirty work, and divide and conquer.
I knew of a lesbian, and it was also a Nazi one. Which goes counter to common sense but there you are.
Nazis are/were a bit like the English upper class. Claimed to be against homo-ism but love practicing it in private. I mean Hitler was as camp as anything if you look at videos of him.
Bottom line is, the Western Establishment doesn't even try to make valid arguments. Everything is a contradiction, everything is a deception, everything is greed and thirst for power. Just like Slavs becoming Nazis really. A nonsense attempt at "ideology" which has no logic whatsoever. Esp given that the Nazis actually despised Slavs and considered them next on the list after the Jews.
Its a shame we see the filth of Nazis/fascism posted on these boards sometimes.
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Erk wrote:NATO are bragging about a 300,000 person rapid deployment force they have suddenly decided to cobble together.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_197080.htm?selectedLocale=en
That's expensive, knowing the NATO markup on everything.
Why are they suddenly doing this?
Are they going to go into Ukraine when they said they wouldn't repeatedly?
They said they wouldn't remove Russia from SWIFT or blockade Kaliningrad, or advance GATO,break arms treaties and plenty of other things.
They are pathological liars.
The only reason St Basils isn't in ruins is that Russia would do the same to Washington and London.
Russia could bomb the Western Ukraine to smithereens because lets face it, its Nazi Central, unlike the East of the region. Which means the vermin hohols will be infinitely less inclined to do the cowardly human shield tactics.
Russia needs to look at the Baltics, Kazakstan, Galicia and reunifying/unifying anywhere else that might cause problems 5,10, 20 yrs in the future.
Now is a better time than any.
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Someone said that shipping is possible from St . Petersburg to Kaliningrad all year round . With ice only 30 cm at sea . So easy passage for ships and ice-breakers to supply and export to the world . Good news if true . Means that the blockade by Lithuania against Rail , is useless and no existential threat to Russia . Still good to know Russia ready to move SRBM nukes to Belorussia as deterrence .
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Firebird wrote:Actually on the topic of homo-ism meets Ukrainian Nazism, there are more similarities than you think.
The Washington gang/WEF support Islamic terrorism (ISIS and Al Qaeda), homo-ism and tranney-ism (but not usually at their private schools and to their kids) and Nazism.
Yet preach "Liberalism".
Its about getting someone else to do your dirty work, and divide and conquer.
I knew of a lesbian, and it was also a Nazi one. Which goes counter to common sense but there you are.
Nazis are/were a bit like the English upper class. Claimed to be against homo-ism but love practicing it in private. I mean Hitler was as camp as anything if you look at videos of him.
Bottom line is, the Western Establishment doesn't even try to make valid arguments. Everything is a contradiction, everything is a deception, everything is greed and thirst for power. Just like Slavs becoming Nazis really. A nonsense attempt at "ideology" which has no logic whatsoever. Esp given that the Nazis actually despised Slavs and considered them next on the list after the Jews.
Its a shame we see the filth of Nazis/fascism posted on these boards sometimes.
I think it is something cultural of the Germans. The largest homosexual movement in the world was in Germany, then it moved to the United States.
Those are historical trends. What we are experiencing today is a promotion of degeneration by international forces. It happens that for this propaganda to be effective there are peoples who are more predisposed than others.
Let Soros go to Syria and Iran, to see how they receive him.
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flamming_python wrote:ArgentinaGuard wrote:Excuse me. What was the name of that telegram channel that reported on the caves of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis in Mariupol? It was run by a young Russian journalist. They had shown it on the forum and I lost it.
WarGonzo mb?
https://t.me/wargonzo
Or was it in the English language?
No. In English I think. It was the channel of a journalist woman dressed in black, who explained what was in the caves.
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The Ukrainians are falling back to a new defensive line
Seversk, Soledar , Artemovsk
This is a prepositioned line, so they will just staff it with cannon fodder
This means the BTGs cannot move near there as the artillery will be needed to keep dill in their trenches
But we can see the VSU is concerned about a buildup near Balakliya precisely in southern Kharkov, so they are already moving BTG from the Severodonetsk front to Kharkov to press rifht flank of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk
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*unless they plan on moving directly on Kharkov
Which would be a surprise
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