Russian special military operation in Ukraine #18

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Word on the vine is that Greece plans to transfer to the Ukraine 120 BMP-1s, 60 Stingers and 20k Kalashnikovs. Apparently been reported in Greek news

Anyone heard anything about this?

The story is not really new.  Grece is to deliver all ex-GDR  BMP1s to 404 and Germany to send Marders to Grece instead.

But AK-47?! in Greece? how?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-supply-ifvs-greece-athens-deliver-soviet-weapons-kyiv-scholz-2022-05-31/

There were quite a number of weapons and small arms from the GDR unaccounted for - perhaps some of them ended up in Greece for covert use by their special forces?

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/37388
Russian troops cut the main supply route for enemy forces at the Uglegorsk TPP
It is reported from the field that Russian troops and DPR forces entered the village of Vershina, and also established control over a section of the M-03 highway, through which deliveries were made yesterday to the Nazis who sat down at the Uglegorsk TPP

Serberus wrote:https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10767
Ukrainian military shelled the Bryansk region
The Armed Forces of Ukraine shelled the village of Zaimishche, located in the urban district of Klintsy, Bryansk region. Four civilians were wounded.
The information about the shelling was confirmed by the governor of the Bryansk region Alexander Bogomaz.
Apparently a Tochka-U missile was used.

Big crater:
https://bryansktoday.ru/article/187157

And a female villager got her leg torn off:
https://m.newsbryansk.ru/fn_990423.html

Quite spot on view, mushroom cloud from a big strike as seen from lake Stodol in Klintsy, consistent with a Tochka-U in the direction of Zaymishche.



After the hard shelling of exclusively civilian areas in Donetsk all day and night (with NATO-supplied artillery), now the Ukrainians apparently fire at similarly exclusively civilian areas of Russia.

So in other words they are losing bigtime on the actual battlefield, because this is just out of spite and perhaps in the hopes of pissing Moscow off to the point of furious escalation, so that Zelensky and his cronies have something to cry about to the hapless morons at the upcoming NATO summit.

Arrow wrote:



Macron, Scholz and Draghi  are going to Kiev on thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germanys-scholz-travel-kyiv-with-macron-draghi-before-g7-bild-am-sonntag-2022-06-11/

Probably time to pop a Kinzhal at Kyiv to let them know it's not an EU tourist resort anymore.

Erk wrote:

Arrow wrote:



Macron, Scholz and Draghi  are going to Kiev on thursday.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germanys-scholz-travel-kyiv-with-macron-draghi-before-g7-bild-am-sonntag-2022-06-11/

Probably time to pop a Kinzhal at Kyiv to let them know it's not an EU tourist resort anymore.

There must be a railway yard or something similar that could be hit, purely by coincidence of course.

I did read somewhere that Kiev airport is still operating. Anyone know anything on that? These politicians can't all be enduring the hours in a train, those that actually go to Kiev of course.

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.

High-precision long-range Kalibr missiles near Priluki, Chernigov region, have destroyed AFU arsenal of artillery weapons and ammunition.

In addition, high-precision air-based missiles have hit 11 areas of concentration of Ukrainian manpower and military equipment, 8 firing positions of AFU artillery units, including 3 platoons of Grad multiple-launch rocket systems near Bakhmut and Pereezdnoe in Donetsk People's Republic, Lisichansk in Lugansk People's Republic, and 2 ammunition depots on the southern outskirts of Kharkov and near Gorskoe in Lugansk People's Republic.

Operational-tactical and army aviation have hit 101 areas of AFU manpower and military equipment concentration.

The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 350 nationalists, 3 command posts, 13 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 6 Grad multiple rocket launchers, 14 field artillery mounts and 22 special vehicles have been destroyed.

Russian air defense means have shot down 1 MiG-29 aircraft of Ukrainian Air Force near Slavyansk in Donetsk People's Republic and 1 Mi-24 helicopter near Snegirevka in Nikolaev region.

9 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles have been shot down nnear Chervonaya Gusarovka, Bolshie Prokhody, Malaya Kamyshevakha in Kharkov region, Apostolovo in Dnepropetrovsk region, Donetsk, Levkovka, and Yakovlevka in Donetsk People's Republic.

In addition, 1 Ukrainian Tochka-U ballistic missile near Vernopol'e, Kharkov region, and 14 Smerch rockets near Donetsk, Aleksandrovka, Donetsk People's Republic, Popasnaya, Lugansk People's Republic, and Sukhaya Kamenka, Kharkov region, have been intercepted.

Missile troops and artillery have hit 280 areas of AFU concentration of manpower and military equipment, 18 command posts, 59 firing positions of artillery and mortar units, as well as 1 fuel depot near Konstantinovka in Donetsk People's Republic.

In total, 202 Ukrainian airplanes and 131 helicopters, 1,205 unmanned aerial vehicles, 338 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,548 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 521 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,947 field artillery and mortars, as well as 3,605 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.

***

The Ukrainian army continues to suffer significant losses during the special military operation.

I would like to note that in recent weeks, incidents involving the shooting of Ukrainian servicemen in the back by nationalist units have become more frequent in areas of military operations. Thus, after a fire preparation for an attack by Russian troops near Novomikhailovka in Donetsk People's Republic, more than 30 servicemen of the 25th Battalion of the 54th Mechanized Brigade of AFU decided to lay down their arms and surrender.

Ukrainian servicemen occupying a stronghold near Zvioroferma asked the Russian unit command via radio to cease fire and provide a corridor for exit.
Around 10 p.m., AFU servicemen with white flags began moving towards Russian positions.

At that moment, Ukrainian nationalist barrier unit arrived at the stronghold in armored vehicles and opened crossfire in the back on the servicemen of the 54th Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. As a result of this shooting, 32 Ukrainian servicemen were fatally wounded and killed.

This incident, as well as many others like it, clearly demonstrates that amid growing military failures and demoralization of Ukrainian troops, the Kiev nationalist regime is trying to stop the retreat and surrender of its units by punitive actions of barrier squads.

The lives of Ukrainian servicemen and mobilized fighters of territorial defence units mean nothing to the current leadership of Ukraine.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #Briefing
@mod_russia_en

https://t.me/mod_russia_en/2179

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Word on the vine is that Greece plans to transfer to the Ukraine 120 BMP-1s, 60 Stingers and 20k Kalashnikovs. Apparently been reported in Greek news

Anyone heard anything about this?

The story is not really new.  Grece is to deliver all ex-GDR  BMP1s to 404 and Germany to send Marders to Grece instead.

But AK-47?! in Greece? how?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-supply-ifvs-greece-athens-deliver-soviet-weapons-kyiv-scholz-2022-05-31/

Last that I heard was the Greeks were refusing to deliver until the Marders arrived in Greece first.

Tony
@Cyberspec1

Acc to MI6 info, transmitted to EU Commission & MEPs, AFU losses up to June 1 were 176 000 killed & 41 000 seriously wounded... about 38 000 are considered missing.

If true, it's a terrible number.

Their losses are great but 170k just for KIA seems a bit over the top. I would be surprised if its over 50k tbh. My guess based on months of sleuthing is 30-50k but wtf do I know really.
Add to that pows, wounded and deserted/missing its probably well over 100k out of action.

Its all conjecture anyway, I doubt even Kiev has a clue how many they truly lost, and even worse I don’t think they care.

Both Pushilin and Basurin made pleas to Russia to intensify missile and air attacks on Avdeevka and Nazi artillery on that front to stop attacks on the civilians of the city and surrounding areas…the fact they have to make public requests for something that is so obviously required and should have happened a long time ago… something stinks here

Serberus wrote:Both Pushilin and Basurin made pleas to Russia to intensify missile and air attacks on Avdeevka and Nazi artillery on that front to stop attacks on the civilians of the city and surrounding areas…do they really need to make public requests for something that is so obviously required and should have happened a long time ago… something stinks here

Those won't do much, you need to force the ukies out of firing range to do that and again the russians do not have enough troops for that.

Their current pacing has also been painfully slow for the past few weeks.

ludovicense wrote:
Tony
@Cyberspec1

Acc to MI6 info, transmitted to EU Commission & MEPs, AFU losses up to June 1 were 176 000 killed & 41 000 seriously wounded... about 38 000 are considered missing.

If true, it's a terrible number.

170k.....Yeah you gotta be high to believe those numbers

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

ludovicense wrote:
Tony
@Cyberspec1

Acc to MI6 info, transmitted to EU Commission & MEPs, AFU losses up to June 1 were 176 000 killed & 41 000 seriously wounded... about 38 000 are considered missing.
If true, it's a terrible number.

170k.....Yeah you gotta be high to believe those numbers

Not at all.
Just need to be consequent.
Those are the data based on official Ukro feedback about the needs&achievements, including the mobilization progress, active personnel etc.
It is all a part of the support package program, that the "allies" are paying the bills.
And in the end, it turns out that ... either the Ukros are lying on the very basics, or there are 200k troops missing.
And that is the point.
As western propaganda can't admit the fundamental and principal falsification campaign unleashed by the ukro regime, what is left is an enormous gap.
They obviously could not have lost 200k troops, as that would mean total annihilation of a whole army. Even if we consider that they have really managed to mobilize approx. 700k soldiers in total, with all the "mobilization waves", the number is insane - 250k including wounded is 1/3 of the personnel, that is simple annihilation. No army can sustain this casualty rate.
What they really lost, is the Russian numbers are given - 50+k killed and an unknown but more or less similar number of wounded.
It is still a decimation, but with those numbers they can still hold in one piece, calmly waiting their turn to be killed.
Ukro official number claimed at 10+k is nothing else than the personnel they had on their ground and forced to confirm & bury.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Those won't do much, you need to force the ukies out of firing range to do that and again the russians do not have enough troops for that.

Their current pacing has also been painfully slow for the past few weeks.

Regardless of what is needed to dislodge them, it should be one of the priorities and focus of Russian forces, which for some reason doesn't seem to be. Lack of troops is a bs excuse, they had plenty to take Izyum and Mariupol, Popasnaya and Severodonetsk etc  if the capital of DNR is not a priority front than I don't get this “war” at all.

Judging by the DNR leadership’s frustrations they feel the same. I could be wrong but I don’t  recall them making such public comments since the conflict started.


Also Azovstal 2.0
Really hope those foreign Nazis who recorded themselves in Severodonetsk are trapped there
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10803

ALAMO wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

ludovicense wrote:
Tony
@Cyberspec1

Acc to MI6 info, transmitted to EU Commission & MEPs, AFU losses up to June 1 were 176 000 killed & 41 000 seriously wounded... about 38 000 are considered missing.
If true, it's a terrible number.

170k.....Yeah you gotta be high to believe those numbers

Not at all.
Just need to be consequent.
Those are the data based on official Ukro feedback about the needs&achievements, including the mobilization progress, active personnel etc.
It is all a part of the support package program, that the "allies" are paying the bills.
And in the end, it turns out that ... either the Ukros are lying on the very basics, or there are 200k troops missing.
And that is the point.
As western propaganda can't admit the fundamental and principal falsification campaign unleashed by the ukro regime, what is left is an enormous gap.
They obviously could not have lost 200k troops, as that would mean total annihilation of a whole army. Even if we consider that they have really managed to mobilize approx. 700k soldiers in total, with all the "mobilization waves", the number is insane - 250k including wounded is 1/3 of the personnel, that is simple annihilation. No army can sustain this casualty rate.
What they really lost, is the Russian numbers are given - 50+k killed and an unknown but more or less similar number of wounded.
It is still a decimation, but with those numbers they can still hold in one piece, calmly waiting their turn to be killed.
Ukro official number claimed at 10+k is nothing else than the personnel they had on their ground and forced to confirm & bury.

Sorry but no such data exists and 170k killed is pure fantasy Bull Shit.

Serberus wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Those won't do much, you need to force the ukies out of firing range to do that and again the russians do not have enough troops for that.

Their current pacing has also been painfully slow for the past few weeks.

Regardless of what is needed to dislodge them, it should be one of the priorities and focus of Russian forces, which for some reason doesn't seem to be. Lack of troops is a bs excuse, they had plenty to take Izyum and Mariupol, Popasnaya and Severodonetsk etc  if the capital of DNR is not a priority front than I don't get this “war” at all.

Judging by the DNR leadership’s frustrations they feel the same. I could be wrong but I don’t  recall them making such public comments since the conflict started.


Also Azovstal 2.0
Really hope those foreign Nazis who recorded themselves in Severodonetsk are trapped there
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10803

Lack of troops is NOT a BS excuse, you need troops to guard the lines, you need to hold reserves, you need troops to attack.

Russia just doesn't have the manpower to push them out of range and attack where they currently are.

Also not all the men in Ukraine are infantry thus diminishing available numbers more.

There is a huge lack of troops, to do what you want Putin would need to funnel more forces into Ukraine and guess what? he doesn't want that. Partial mobilization would be needed, You canblame guys like Putin for this as they control how many men the army has in the theatre of operations.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Serberus wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Those won't do much, you need to force the ukies out of firing range to do that and again the russians do not have enough troops for that.

Their current pacing has also been painfully slow for the past few weeks.

Regardless of what is needed to dislodge them, it should be one of the priorities and focus of Russian forces, which for some reason doesn't seem to be. Lack of troops is a bs excuse, they had plenty to take Izyum and Mariupol, Popasnaya and Severodonetsk etc  if the capital of DNR is not a priority front than I don't get this “war” at all.

Judging by the DNR leadership’s frustrations they feel the same. I could be wrong but I don’t  recall them making such public comments since the conflict started.


Also Azovstal 2.0
Really hope those foreign Nazis who recorded themselves in Severodonetsk are trapped there
https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10803

Lack of troops is NOT a BS excuse, you need troops to guard the lines, you need to hold reserves, you need troops to attack.

Russia just doesn't have the manpower to push them out of range and attack where they currently are.

Also not all the men in Ukraine are infantry thus diminishing available numbers more.

There is a huge lack of troops, to do what you want Putin would need to funnel more forces into Ukraine and guess what? he doesn't want that. Partial mobilization would be needed, You canblame guys like Putin for this as they control how many men the army has in the theatre of operations.

So they can storm Mariupol a city of over 300k people all still there which increases the difficulty of taking it, defended by arguably thousands of their best troops, dug in, hiding in basements, using civilians as human shield, utilising residential buildings and catacombs of Azovstal….not a simple task by any means and take it.

But Avdeevka  a 10th the size of Mariupol with most of the civilians reportedly gone, after 4 months of doing f all, requires Russian mobilisation?  Pure none sense, you just push this “lack of troops” mantra like your life defended on it without basis.
Sure its fortified but its not like we live in wh40k and they are the fucking Imperial Fists,  its becoming evident that the Russian leadership ,be it military or political are clearly choosing not to focus on it at this time for whatever reason and lack of troops is least of it.

Mari was defended by around 15k men and the russians had to focus over 40k at the start to take that and that AFTER they completely cut Mari off.

So no my words aren't non-sense and I would hardly consider Avoz their best forces.

You simply are choosing not to believe it

I mean if they were Imperial Fists the Russian army would get destroyed and that's putting it nicely...bad analogy on your end but hey no shame in that the Imperial Fists would bitch slap every single military on earth

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Sorry but no such data exists and 170k killed is pure fantasy Bull Shit.

Great.
Maybe now you consider telling that to The Guardian, which aired 200k numbers this week?
That would be a way better use of your time, rather than explaining that to the people who know that better than you do.

ALAMO wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Sorry but no such data exists and 170k killed is pure fantasy Bull Shit.

Great.
Maybe now you consider telling that to The Guardian, which aired 200k numbers this week?
That would be a way better use of your time, rather than explaining that to the people who know that better than you do.

I would tell the guardian that's because its clearly BS,

I also see you and others call everything they say BS but they say something you like and suddenly they are believable? don't make me laugh

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Sorry but no such data exists and 170k killed is pure fantasy Bull Shit.

Great.
Maybe now you consider telling that to The Guardian, which aired 200k numbers this week?
That would be a way better use of your time, rather than explaining that to the people who know that better than you do.

I would tell the guardian that's because its clearly BS,

I also see you and others call everything they say BS but they say something you like and suddenly they are believable? don't make me laugh

This is not the first time when you have had problems with understanding basic English, so let's leave it as it is ...

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Mari was defended by around 15k men and the russians had to focus over 40k at the start to take that and that AFTER they completely cut Mari off.

So no my words aren't non-sense and I would hardly consider Avoz their best forces.

You simply are choosing not to believe it

I mean if they were Imperial Fists the Russian army would get destroyed and that's putting it nicely...bad analogy on your end but hey no shame in that the Imperial Fists would bitch slap every single military on earth

My analogy is fine, either your comprehension skills are lacking or you are purposely being obtuse.

Also where did you pull 40k troops in Mariupol from? Out your ass like most of your claims?



https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/10818
An interesting video of a pair of RuAF helicopters firing unguided missiles towards AFU positions.

ALAMO wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

ALAMO wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Sorry but no such data exists and 170k killed is pure fantasy Bull Shit.

Great.
Maybe now you consider telling that to The Guardian, which aired 200k numbers this week?
That would be a way better use of your time, rather than explaining that to the people who know that better than you do.

I would tell the guardian that's because its clearly BS,

I also see you and others call everything they say BS but they say something you like and suddenly they are believable? don't make me laugh

This is not the first time when you have had problems with understanding basic English, so let's leave it as it is ...

Lawls, I said every right. Buy hey pull that card if you want, I'll say it again.

170k dead is bullshit, don't use a source you like to claim is false when they post information you agree with.