JohninMK wrote:I doubt this will get on the BBC etc
Twitter already banned the account. Western freedom of speech values hiding behind "corporate guidelines" garbage. It is a government asset just like any social media.
ArgentinaGuard wrote:In case of a continental war, Russia must advance strongly to Germany to keep its industrial apparatus and resources. It is a weak country with a population of queers and homosexuals, but with a great industrial and technological capacity that Russia would do well to take over . It would not be a military problem, unlike France or Great Britain. Ukraine is stronger than Germany
Russia will not do it, even tho there are certainly in past plans just in case of full NATO/PONOS vs Russia war. The US has made it clear, that Germany is a red line and have conducted over the past years constantly war games with the Bundeswehr Luftwaffe to use tactical nukes on German cities to avoid Russian advance or pickup Russian formations.
Yeah right. Thousands of Russian soldiers dead. An Islamic jihadi strongman still calling the shots in Chechnya and we are told Russia won.
Yes, they won. The core value here is their future capabilities and prospect to fight off stronger enemies. Someone who wins without hardship has nothing to learn or draw value from, it is the bloody nose after a fight that will make you remember and outgrow your yesterday's self.
To answer your question what Russia won from Chechnyan war...
Russia was shown directly who is on its side and who is an enemy.
The west revealed they are the enemy and always will be. Funneling money, weapons and mercs to Chechnya.
It showed Nazis on the Ukraine are happily going to fight next to Islamic nutheads just to kill Russians.
It showed which NGOs in Russia are direct assets of the West, it revealed German's asset which were unknown till then, it showed British, US, french and other enemies foundations and NGOs thorugh which the war was fueled.
From the war itself Russia gained experience and adjusted the learned lessons in their military doctrine schools.
They clearly won in Chechnya and the issue that you are seeing is the russophobic media that is spewing you lies about Russia and every conflict.
The evidence is Chechnian fighters are in the Ukraine and massacaring the Nazis. I could show you a few pictures of the Chechnian guys in the Ukraine but this is against forum guidelines and I am not really someone who enjoys watching dead people or gore.
You have to agree on the fact that your western media is lying to you. I know that because I live almost my entire life in a western country with a US puppet regime. All media here is controlled and there is no alternative viewpoint but only exclusively what benefits the West.
RTN wrote:Russia clearly hasn't learnt much of urban warfare. Humor me, what was their takeaway from the Chechen wars?
Looking how Chechens and Russians are clearing them out of their rats nest I would suggest that you are pulling that out of your rear.
How is that Ukrainian propaganda? Does it seem to be going well for the Russians? They have stalled in thier progress and with a minimum of 7-10.000 kia just 4 weeks in its nothing but a disaster.
What were your expectations? 100% defeat for Ukrainian forces and 0% deaths for the Russians? Or 99-1?
The Ukraine has the mightiest military in Europe if excluding Russia and they have been supplied with Weapons that are very suitable for guerilla war tactics.
The tactics on the ground are not what you westerners are common with. This is democratization and proclaiming that you brought peace and democrazy while everything in the background is burning, no stone is sitting on each other and a mountain of corpses.
Do you deny that the strategy chosen by the Russian's is to reduce civil deaths?
Do you deny that the strategy is used to inflict as little as necessary damage to the Ukraine to have a chance of dialog after the operation is complete?
Do you understand that this is not Enemy vs Enemy but Russians vs indoctrinated Ukrainians who are just a puppet of your masters?
To you it is nothing but a game and a joke. If you keep your head low and don't troll on this forum to piss of the already very tolerant Admin then we will have sooner or later the discussion about dead NATO troops, but I already know your reaction to it. They are not americans, thus can't fight, can't beat russia and are subhuman. If America would be fighting a conventinal war against Russia, the russkies would die without a mention worthy resistence!
Conventional war or not, NATO is not capable to do anything in Europe. There are only 3 countries with military power, but all inferior to the Ukraine which gets its ass beaten with a white velour glove. The US has no capability to deploy military units to europe. It took the US many many months to deploy what they had to Iraq. Russia will not sit and wait until the entire NATO has prepared for an invasion. It will bomb Frankfurt, Wörms which are joint coordination and logistics points for the US. After that the logistics for the US have to take to Turkey, but I am quite certain Turkey will not participate.
Hell the US did not participate in WW2 and only joint when the war was already decided just to get a chunk out of Germany and try to withstand "communism".
Thats right Mikey, as soon you dont agree with someone on a forum just ban him.
Thats one way to have a one side only debate. Reading yours and others responses relly makes me doubt the admins responsebility here. Gess you can get away with murder here as long as you only support Russia.
I relly dont give a rats ass what you and mr Garry do or say. Meanwhile I gladly continue to be a nail in your eye.
Facts is that Russia forces have fucked up, and shown weakness and incomptense that make western leaders shake thier heads.
I am not for banning people. You just have your own opinion based on the limited and distorted information you have received. So far nobody has banned you for a different opinion and it is also very un-russian as most russians love to discuss things and politics even if it gets heated. We have our own temper and point of view. The things you said would have been already banned on western forums, which I know because I was banned there for stating the mere fact that Azov is a nazi **** fest, while a german admin has replied to me "that there is no evidence for it" and banned me right away. Which is funny because Germans have their own domestic propaganda Machinery to call AFD a Nazi party while denying and supporting real Nazis.
That of course depends who you listen to.
Listening to Reddit you have two abysmal outcomes. Russia is defeated or Redditors are killing each other by posting shit online and Ukrainians forcing them to be a meat shield.
Listening to the Ukrainian shit-show, the Russians have lost half their men, all the tanks they show are russian, even those from the past 8 years. The atrocities of Strela-10 driving over a vehicle in Kiev center is Russian genociders just like the BMP-2 who shot up a car and killed all civilians inside the car, which remarkebly had no Z marks on it. The S-300 SAM rocket that malfunctioned and struck a recidential building was Russian "shelling" and already brought up as "evidence" to bring Putin to den Hague. And all other sorts of garbage created by fascists blamed on the Russians.
You can deny or claim whatever you want, but currently what we can see is, 40% of Ukraine is under Russian control, your PONOS members shit their pants and now the bear will kill them if they step out of line. Ukros are encircled and cut off from supplies, DenaZification is going on. The cities are drained from civilians via corridors and left behind Nazis are getting killed. Zelenskij the Kokain-Jew is willingly letting the fascists die and is currently with some other fascists in Poland. The US won't touch the Ukraine directly but use and abuse its pawns to do it for them.
The US looked NEVER weaker as today, with a pedo child-sniffing dementia plagued racist fucker. Iran bombed your soldiers. China says no to the Petrodollar, the Indians are re-shifting. Russia has the entire EU by the balls, the majority of the world is not only not on your side but every day more and more signs show that the US global reputation is falling and countries are willing to show support to China and Russia.
Sooner or later you get nukes at Cuba and you my friend will see a social shift in the US. You fuckers over there are to comfortable bombing and propagating war all around the world, because you never have to pay for it other than with your tax-dollar. You will see how the weak US society will be in hysteria over Russian nukes in Cuba and you will try to cover it up. Your regimes will do the same shit like in 1962. Your regime will completely say no word why the Russians placed nukes on Cuba and what the living **** ever US nukes were doing at Russia's front door. The McCarthynism cycle will repeat itself.
With the result of NATO breaking up I would pay with my own money if anyone even if its fucking North Korea would push for a coup de 'etat in Mexico and create a Anti-American sentiment of eager Mexicans to get war on the US. All that just so you fuckers start fearing war and death and treat it as the rest of the world as something bad!