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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #13

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:01 am

    Roughly 1200km from Poland to Donbas, that's a lot of targeting potential and diesel need.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:16 am

    Very Happy

    Military operation in Ukraine
    Apr 20, 10:45 am

    Coastal missile system "BAL" delivered a high-precision strike on the objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said earlier that rocket troops and artillery had attacked 1,053 Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities.

    MOSCOW, 20 April. /TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry has published footage of the launch of four high-precision cruise missiles by crews of the Bal coastal missile system at military infrastructure facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    "As part of the fulfillment of the tasks of a special military operation, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a missile attack with high-precision weapons on the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Crews of the Bal coastal missile system from the Black Sea coast launched four high-precision missiles at designated ground targets on the territory of Ukraine," the statement reads. in the comments of the department.


    Earlier on Wednesday, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said that 1,053 Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities had been attacked by missile forces and artillery. According to him, including the destruction of 31 command posts, six depots of fuel and lubricants, 910 strongholds and areas of concentration of enemy manpower, as well as 106 artillery firing positions.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/14422195 (VIDEO LINK)

    So the dilemma is solved around 3K60 BAL and the same can be used to hit targets on land.


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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:21 am

    Their "trump card" eh? Now Russia can't continue blowing everything up, but has to commit SOF.

    Wonder why they revealed these hostages only now.

    To prevent thermobaric cleansing...

    Agreed. Seal off the surface and let them starve.

    Or divert a river or stream...

    The civilians will die if they are left there

    It's tricky situation ,

    SOBR should be used with NVG and small drones to map put the fortress and plan a storm

    Even with special forces they will probably die anyway... these nazis will physically use these people as meatshields standing behind them to fire and kill Russian soldiers... the chances of those civilians surviving is extremely low and they will likely blow the hole place up themselves once they think there are enough Russians inside...

    Thermobaric... it will be quick and thorough.

    I saw a video of a train of 30-40 Grad launchers headed west. WTF is 18 howitzers gonna do?

    What is it going to do?

    Hopefully get shot down on its way in or hit in storage.

    Just the first batch

    They always do that. Send a little, see how Russia reacts, then send more

    So blow it up.

    Why can they not use teargas?

    When you design a bunker complex the control of airflow is critical so it probably would not work well.

    I'm kinda curious on Russian AEW deployment, why does Russia not seem to deploy A-50 in Crimea to monitor Black sea ?

    Would be an easy shot for an S-300 system... the radar emissions would make it easy to spot passively without giving away your launch location till the missile is launched... making destroying the battery not so easy and the chance of losing an aircraft too high.

    Defeating Russia is more important than its own energy security, which could collapse their economies and lead the world into an unprecedented economic and food crisis. fools.

    What they say now and what happens later are different things... right now they think they are making a difference... when they realise they are hurting their own economies more than they are hurting Russia the tune will change...

    Johnson is the puppet of the zionists ruling the City.

    Kermit or Miss Piggy would do a much better job than blojo.

    That's the sign of utter desperation. Looks like wests situation is pretty dire atm

    Putin is calling their bluff... HATO is a joke it seems, yet the queue to join remains...

    Unfortunately if there are civilians there then starving them out is not an option. They'll starve the civilians before they starve themselves

    They will fire at Russian soldiers standing behind groups of civies too...

    The problem with the Kh-25 is that it's a solid-fueled rocket. Many of them won't be reliable by now, the lifetime of solid-fueled rockets is roughly 30 years and these rockets went out of production in the mid-80s. Their average age by now would be around 40 years, assuming earlier stocks got used in Chechnya and Syria.

    Properly stored they should be fine, it would be batteries that would be an issue.... worst case scenario you could wire them for free fall and for the rocket fuel to explode with the warhead and drop them like bombs... but they should be fine as rockets too.

    SA-1 SAMs were still being used in the 1990s as training targets... they made about 100K of them and had fired about 13K during tests and exercises and also as targets.

    What about something like the gas used at the Moscow theater. Have medical staff on standby to save the lives of the civilians and send the nazis to their fuehrer.

    Any anestesiologist will tell you how complex it is to make someone go to sleep like that... concentrations are critical... too much and they die anyway... not enough and they work out what is happening and start shooting everyone and everything...

    And bringing them around quickly afterwards is critical too, which was the problem for that siege even though enormous numbers were saved a large number were lost too.

    Even CO is a chemical weapon, if it's used in a war!

    Those civilians are dead anyway.

    Ventilation systems probably have scrubbers too so chemicals might not be effective either.

    Just let them starve in the tunnels. Maybe they have enough water and food, then they may not come out for 5 or 20 years. That's no problem...upstairs life goes on and downstairs they should live in eternal total war....haha X-D

    Flooding would be quicker.

    That was 20 years ago and involved a super strong aerosolized opiate-derived sedative agent, like a mist of fentanyl or so. Lots of people accidentally "OD'd" on it, it was kind of crude

    Would have been 100% fatal in the US then as most are already on opiods...

    How many can an Su-24 carry? 4? Might as well use them up in this conflict, but what do I know. May not even be worth the cost in fuel.

    Any model Su-25 can carry 8 at a time and the includes the anti radar models (Kh-25MP anti radar model), and the Kh-25ML laser homing missile are the two most common and mass produced models of the Kh-25.

    Current versions of the MP model have broad band seekers able to engage a range of ground based radar emitting targets. The ML model is just the AS-10 Laser homing version.

    Is there a video of this thing ? I wonder if it is useful to bomb it since they are in big bunker. Very unlikely bombs can do anything to them.

    Thermobaric bombs consume the oxygen around the point of detonation.... any airducts and the explosive mixture can flow into the structure as it explodes.

    Shame, could have been handed over to the DNR

    Russia makes lots of useful little patrol boats they could provide and support with spare parts.

    Because the Russians are lazy as f***. They will only start thinking about A-50 and Tu-214 deployment once they get a NATO JASSM fired from Romanian air space stuck up their ass.

    Being lazy doens't come in to it... operating an AWACS aircraft in airspace where an S-300 might be located is about the dumbest thing you can do... AWACS aircraft emit radar waves and can be detected at distances of roughly three times their own radar range which makes them easy to detect even with very basic equipment all S-300 batteries carry... they could launch a missile without search or tracking radar being needed and being quite a fast missile there would not be a lot of time to respond to such an attack. The S-300 TEL could then move easily enough.

    S-400s would be even more dangerous but only because of their extra range.

    A few days ago I had said that Moskva could have been hit by a NATO torpedo. Some forum members said that maybe the Moskva ran into a mine that Ukraine had laid in the past.

    Yeah, lots of bullshit theories have been spouted as possible... a wormhole might have opened up and sucked part of the ship to another universe but it is not likely.

    There are dozens of different mine times from floating to sea bed mines... the Ukraine has no navy and no commercial shipping in operation so they don't care if the whole Black Sea is full of mines.

    The thing is Moskva must have carried out a surveillance of that area to find out if there were any such mines.

    Finding mines on the sea floor is not as easy as you make it sound. They don't glow or have their own ping that immediately identifies them as being a mine.

    Plus, Moskva was ringed by modern FFG escorts, incl the latest Admiral Grigorivich class.

    Which puts the story about drones and anti ship missiles into perspective... no chance.

    So it's quite possible that a U.S bomber B-2/B-52/any other launched a few Quickstrike-Extended Range standoff air-delivered mines at the Moskva, consequently, the Moskva got very little time to react.

    The US wont send troops to the Ukraine but you think they will launch attacks?

    Are you drunk?

    Such a mine would be detected and the launch platform destroyed.

    #US believes #Russia will target routes used for western weapons shipments to #Ukraine. Even if the they were successful in striking those routes, they would be unable to stop the shipments in their entirety. There are simply too many shipments going in - defense official, CNN

    The destruction of road and rail hubs will create problems transporting in goods like food and medicine and people trying to leave, so there is that too.

    Coastal missile system "Bal" delivered a high-precision strike on the objects of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    The official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said earlier that rocket troops and artillery had attacked 1,053 Ukrainian military infrastructure facilities.

    They will have enormous quantities of old anti ship missiles that have not been used... conversion to dual use land attack capability likely enabled a vast storage of anti ship weapons to be used against land based targets with a good level of precision... that might otherwise not be much use.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:25 am

    Chilling how it has played out to plan

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:40 am

    1(Pro-Russian blogger Valery Kuleshov was shot and killed in Kherson

    2)Ukrainian Air Forces confirmed receiving spare parts for existing planes, but not new planes as reported by media Exclamation

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:47 am

    Pulling back the earlier comments about whole aircraft

    Ukrainian Air Force
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    Ukraine did not receive new aircraft from partners!
    With the assistance of the US Government, @KpsZSU received spare parts and components for the restoration and repair of the fleet of aircraft in the Armed Forces, which will allow to put into service more equipment.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:50 am

    12:46, 20.04.2022

    Participants in the battles against Russia penetrate from Ukraine under the guise of refugees

    The Ministry of Internal Affairs reported about the participants in the battles against Russia, penetrating from Ukraine under the guise of refugees

    MOSCOW, April 20 - RIA Novosti. Persons who took part in the hostilities in Ukraine against the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are entering Russia under the guise of refugees, Dmitry Petrov, deputy head of the main department for countering extremism of the Russian Interior Ministry, told RIA Novosti.

    "Among the refugees, people who took part in the hostilities (against the Russian army - ed.) are trying to seep into our territory. It's not a secret ... I can't say the exact number at the moment, but they are detected with a certain frequency," - he said. Petrov noted that verification activities are currently being carried out in order to establish their involvement in hostilities.

    https://ria.ru/20220420/ukraina-1784465371.html

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:50 am

    You will see why I just had to post this. Who needs green screens anymore?

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:59 am

    We all know that Ukraine is corrupt but.............

    I doubt US/UK/NATO care

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    While the Ukrainian military is dying from a lack of weapons and ammunition, Defense Ministry officials are selling weapons to African countries under the guise of "surplus". There is amendment No. 1919 in the legislation of Ukraine, according to which surplus weapons can be sold even during the war. The MoD has prepared a report that needs to be implemented. Among the items are armored cars, tanks, machine guns, rifles, grenades and even body armor. The “range” listed in the documents occupies 970 pages. The company that sells weapons is NVK Techimpeks. https://t.me/vicktop55/3287 #vicktop55

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    a couple things they do: 'sales & disposal of military equipment & weapons.
    sounds about right for a semi legit black market arms dealer.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:01 pm

    Russia Has Lost a Quarter of its Combat Effectiveness in Ukraine: Pentagon

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-04-19/russia-has-lost-a-quarter-of-its-combat-effectiveness-in-ukraine-pentagon

    Some yankee propaganda.

    Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:03 pm

    Unverified but inevitable one day, whether that day is now we will no doubt find out.

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    Media reports: Ukrainian troops are leaving the "triangle" - the area of Rubezhnoye, Severodonetsk and Lisichansk.

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    Sounds like Ukr gov is realizing the reality of their situation and giving ground where they have to now. Probably seeking to pull another fortress city elsewhere, likely in Kramatorsk/Slavyansk where we might see significant fighting, heavier than in Mariupol.

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    Lol they’re too late. They will retreat under artillery and air attack and will have to abandon heavy equipment. This might turn into a Falaise pocket/Baghdad highway of death situation.


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:05 pm

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:Russia Has Lost a Quarter of its Combat Effectiveness in Ukraine: Pentagon

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-04-19/russia-has-lost-a-quarter-of-its-combat-effectiveness-in-ukraine-pentagon

    Some yankee propaganda.

    Laughing

    Wishful thinking but they have to put out the message that it has cost the Russians ahead of having to admit that they have just taken half the country.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:12 pm

    JohninMK wrote:You will see why I just had to post this. Who needs green screens anymore?


    The footage that was made "from the shelter inside Azovstal" with "civilians and kids" - people already found as fake.
    A guy on the scene is the same one who was playing a Rus soldier in a cutthroat inscenization days ago.
    Crazy times.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:19 pm

    Bal missile system launch against target in Ukraine.

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43770

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    Post  Erk Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:21 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    The footage that was made "from the shelter inside Azovstal" with "civilians and kids" - people already found as fake.
    A guy on the scene is the same one who was playing a Rus soldier in a cutthroat inscenization days ago.
    Crazy times.

    Reuters was saying there are 1,000 civilians in Azovstal now.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/least-1000-civilians-hiding-under-ukrainian-stronghold-steel-plant-mariupol-city-2022-04-18/

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    Post  nomadski Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:22 pm

    Agree with those saying " ...all Roads and Rail and Airport in West Ukraine to be targeted and destroyed , " this will make weapon shipments very difficult . If Ukraine allows Russian inspectors in West border areas , then food and civilian shipments can take place , no need to destroy routes . BTW , the town that was captured today by Russia in Donbas , was it a Russian speaking area or not ? Does anyone know ?

    High-level , mini -  Robots and listening devices and heat detectors , can detect if civilians present or not and what location , before special forces storm Azovstal underground bunker to rescue hostages and exterminate the Rats .

    Edit : All eyes are on Azovstal , specially the Ukrainian eyes . By rescuing hostages and parading them with Russian food and medics , will send great message and victory . Also since Ukraine self - sufficient in food and central agriculture region can still produce food , then no danger in blockade of West to all traffic . Destroy all links to Europe . Also by not occupying Ukraininan majority areas , will send message of hope to people , but must destroy any forces fighting and not surrendered yet . Then leave area .


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:32 pm

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    Okay so the US is sending 40,000 rounds for 18 (either M198 or M777) howitzers. That’s 2200 rounds per gun. The tube service length for the M198 is only 1750 rounds. They will literally burn out the barrels before they run out of munitions for the guns.

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    Post  Serberus Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:36 pm

    https://t.me/swodki/74655
    “Air defense worked out in Melitopol, after which an incompletely opened parachute was visible in the sky.”

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    Post  ucmvulcan Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Roughly 1200km from Poland to Donbas, that's a lot of targeting potential and diesel need.

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    I am not quite sure CNN knows how bombing railroad junctions and road junctions and bridges work. . . .

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:19 pm

    Something we hear little about but I'm sure that it is of growing importance as Ukrainian military loses other comms links.

    This is a civilian application but the same principle applies.

    A problem in a non full on, block everything, war like now.

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    Is Starlink that important? It wouldn't be possible to restore 10 km of cable connection between villages in Chernigiv region after serious battles so quick. Normally it takes few months. Another case: provider Baryshivka-Net resumed the network for 5 villages by using only 1 📡.


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    Post  Stealthflanker Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:27 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Something we hear little about but I'm sure that it is of growing importance as Ukrainian military loses other comms links.


    Well Elon already tweeted that in some part of Ukraine, Starlink is the only communications available. and he also tweeted a warning about potential threat on starlink emmission can be used by Russians and snuffed out by anti radiation missile.

    Tho it might be unlikely as Starlink antenna have low sidelobe and highly directional. The emission also lies out of Russian ARM seeker frequency range and it's already being very low power. Detection tho can be made by dedicated ESM aircraft or Russian ESM Satellite if any.

    Satellite however despite the "surest" means of detection may not be able to provide realtime data. Military operator using Starlink can be expected not to remain and emit in the same place all the time.
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    Post  Podlodka77 Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:56 pm

    TASS; Military operation in Ukraine
    Apr 20, 13:49

    Kadyrov announced the capture of the settlements of Kamennaya and Staraya Krasnyanka by Chechen fighters

    GROZNY, 20 April. /TASS/. The soldiers of the special forces "Akhmat" together with the military personnel of the Luhansk People's Republic (LPR) took control of the settlements of Kamennaya and Staraya Krasnyanka during a special operation.

    This was announced by the head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov in his Telegram channel. https://t.me/RKadyrov_95

    “The soldiers of the Akhmat special forces, together with the LPR servicemen, occupied the settlements of Kamennaya and Staraya Krasnyanka,” Kadyrov wrote, adding that the operation was carried out without casualties among the personnel.

    He said that in the near future the fighters will have to clear the settlements and organize humanitarian aid for the local population.

    https://tass.ru/politika/14424955

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:OSINTtechnical
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    Okay so the US is sending 40,000 rounds for 18 (either M198 or M777) howitzers. That’s 2200 rounds per gun. The tube service length for the M198 is only 1750 rounds. They will literally burn out the barrels before they run out of munitions for the guns.

    Those cannons will be burned when they are used or even before, by the Russian attacks.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:10 pm

    LNR is breaking through Popasna now it seems like. Very heavily fortified, hard nut to crack.

    UA falling back, ~100 taken POW.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:20 pm

    Seeing information on the networks, from Russian pages, it seems that the Azovstal shelters are not as intricate as they say in the Western media.

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