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    Post  par far Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:54 am

    "A new group of volunteers went to the LDNR to participate in the NWO."



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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:05 am

    Sujoy wrote:Javelins have a range of 3km. Meaning at any given time Russian troops will have to secure a 18km circle around the tank. That's a lot of ground to secure against someone popping out of a hole for 30 seconds and pressing a button.

    The best strategy that Russian troops can adopt right now of suppressing ATGM ambushes from a Javelin (especially since their front of choice is wide open so the sight range of 3 km is realistic) is overwhelming sustained artillery bombardment combined with a simultaneous armor and mobile infantry push.

    This will still incur tank casualties but this is a functional way to advance. Russians are executing the bombardment part, the simultaneous armor push part is TBD.

    Where are these ATGM ambushes though? Where are these 3km Javelin hits?

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:09 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Javelins have a range of 3km. Meaning at any given time Russian troops will have to secure a 18km circle around the tank. That's a lot of ground to secure against someone popping out of a hole for 30 seconds and pressing a button.

    The best strategy that Russian troops can adopt right now of suppressing ATGM ambushes from a Javelin (especially since their front of choice is wide open so the sight range of 3 km is realistic) is overwhelming sustained artillery bombardment combined with a simultaneous armor and mobile infantry push.

    This will still incur tank casualties but this is a functional way to advance. Russians are executing the bombardment part, the simultaneous armor push part is TBD.

    Where are these ATGM ambushes though? Where are these 3km Javelin hits?


    They secure it by mapping ukrainian positions and using artillery on them before advancing.

    On paper it's 3km. In real life the operator will run awy from artillery when he knows he is ukrainian and facing Russia. He knows even if he manage a hit he will be dead. At least by runing away he can be either captured and alive.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:11 am

    Sujoy wrote:Javelins have a range of 3km. Meaning at any given time Russian troops will have to secure a 18km circle around the tank. That's a lot of ground to secure against someone popping out of a hole for 30 seconds and pressing a button.

    The best strategy that Russian troops can adopt right now of suppressing ATGM ambushes from a Javelin (especially since their front of choice is wide open so the sight range of 3 km is realistic) is overwhelming sustained artillery bombardment combined with a simultaneous armor and mobile infantry push.

    This will still incur tank casualties but this is a functional way to advance. Russians are executing the bombardment part, the simultaneous armor push part is TBD.


    Don't worry, because Russia has never been a British colony, so I think Russia and the Russians know what they are doing.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:18 am

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    Russian sources say there is indeed a very rapid advance going on on the eastern bank of the Oskil reservoir, Kharkov region. Heavy fighting in Pisky-Radkovsky now, about 40km north of Slavyansk.

    RU has pushed through Pisky-Radkovsky, moved another 10km while defeating UA in Lozoye, Yatsovka/Rubtsy and are now advancing through Krymky towards Aleksandrovka, 30m from Slavyansk.

    The eastern spearhead towards Slavyansk seems to be moving faster, as noted earlier.

    Heavy bombardment of UA fortifications in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk continue.

    PS it certainly gives you WW1 vibes looking at the vast system of trenches, tunnels and reinforced bunkers in that region.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:29 am

    The terrain is very marshy around Northern Donets, especially east of Slavyansk, so the northern spearhead will probably advance much faster than the eastern one after Aleksandrovka, and they'll converge only on the very outskirts of the city.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:33 am

    Looks like the Azovites have at least dozens, possibly hundreds of civilians there in the dungeons underneath Azovstal, and they're not going to respond to the offer to let them out

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43468

    One outrage after another

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:35 am

    flamming_python wrote:Looks like the Azovites have at least dozens of civilians there in the dungeons underneath Azovstal, and they're not going to respond to the offer to let them out

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43468

    One outrage after another

    Their "trump card" eh? Now Russia can't continue blowing everything up, but has to commit SOF.

    Wonder why they revealed these hostages only now.
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    Post  Serberus Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:38 am

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/43598
    120 civilians managed to get out
    Its very messy, you can’t starve them out, cant bomb them.
    Only way is to go in , lose men and hope to save as many as possible

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:39 am

    Word is there are 6 underground floors there

    It's a literal fortress
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:41 am

    Just close it until they surrender.

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    Post  mavaff Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:46 am

    Huge hit by FAB in Azovstal.



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    Post  par far Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:48 am

    "Exclusive More than 120 civilians left Azovstal

    Taking advantage of a short lull, the civilians of Mariupol, who became hostages of neo-Nazi militants, were finally able to get out of the basements of houses that stand directly at the main Azovstal checkpoint.

    Watch the exclusive footage of the @wargonzo project right now and wait for a special broadcast from the epicenter of the battles for the main stronghold of Azov in Mariupol very soon."



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    Post  Serberus Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:53 am

    mavaff wrote:Huge hit by FAB in Azovstal.


    Thats from a few years back , I think 2017
    Ammo storage explosion

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    Post  par far Tue Apr 19, 2022 10:55 am

    "Such work...

    Greetings to Lavrov from Mariupol from the legendary Donbass battalion "Somalia".

    @wargonzo"


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    Post  zorobabel Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:06 am

    Isos wrote:Just close it until they surrender.
    Agreed. Seal off the surface and let them starve.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:12 am

    The civilians will die if they are left there

    It's tricky situation ,

    SOBR should be used with NVG and small drones to map put the fortress and plan a storm

    At least main forces can be redirected to Guliaipolye

    And continue to press the southern 2 VSU brigades into the cauldron, VKS should hammer the brigades if they break west, don't let them slip out to zaporizhia

    Drive them north east, and seal them in the Donetsk tomb

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:13 am

    Russia has used Orlan UAVs to target a few military facilities/assets and for some other facilities/assets they have used Mi-28 and Ka-52 helos.

    Probably Orlan UAVs were used to target air defense units and for the remaining targets helos were used.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:17 am

    🇺🇸🇺🇦 US will deliver over half a dozen flights worth of security assistance to Ukraine in the next 24 hours, as part of the Biden administration’s recent $800 million package, a senior defense official says.

    The planes should be shot down, for the Moskva

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:24 am

    flamming_python wrote:Word is there are 6 underground floors there

    It's a literal fortress

    No such thing as an impregnable fortress. Not when you have the proper equipment:
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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:25 am

    Serberus wrote:
    mavaff wrote:Huge hit by FAB in Azovstal.


    Thats from a few years back , I think 2017
    Ammo storage explosion

    Tweet's been deleted.

    Totally anecdotal and irrelevant, but there was an ammo depot mishap in deep Siberia somewhere 3-4 years back, and it was filmed by a young couple. Their banter while some nuclear-tier blasts were going off was hilarious.

    Guy was like "f*****k, hahaha"
    Girl in a calm voice: "whatever, not interesting, let's go already, I'm gonna be late dammit"

    I immediately thought what a contrast that was to how people would react hereabouts. Okay, guys would be cursing too, but more hysterically. And the ladies would be in full banshee mode, ear piercingly hysterical.

    "Chad Russians" vs "virgin westernoids" or something, I guess.

    Yep, crap meme but hey.

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    Post  mnztr Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:38 am

    Arkanghelsk wrote:🇺🇸🇺🇦 US will deliver over half a dozen flights worth of security assistance to Ukraine in the next 24 hours, as part of the Biden administration’s recent $800 million package, a senior defense official says.

    The planes should be shot down, for the Moskva

    Part of the delivery is 18 howitzers. Russia has THOUSANDS so this is really an insult. I saw a video of a train of 30-40 Grad launchers headed west. WTF is 18 howitzers gonna do?

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    Post  par far Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:39 am

    "18+.
    In the port of Mariupol, the body of a senior sailor of the marine corps of the Ukrainian fleet Ivan Anatolyevich Krapovoy was found, who was shot from behind, by his own.

    He had no equipment, but there was a leaflet under the body - the conditions for surrender. Obviously, at the time of the murder by "his own", he was going to go out to the troops of the DPR and save his life.

    Another crime of Ukrainian Nazis in the video of our correspondent @astrahandm"


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