Russian special military operation in Ukraine #11
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I don't know what next. Continue with the operation in the Donbass I guess.
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Scorpius wrote:Do you have no relatives in Ukraine? I have. And many have. are you suggesting a nuclear strike on our relatives?Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
Western Ukraine
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Silly. The failures of the initial military operation can't be resolved by flattening towns and villages.Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
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limb wrote:Could it be possible that there is a hack in the Russian news? Why would the US government say it's moving under its own power?
Who cares why they would say whatever? They are under no obligation to tell the truth and haven't so far.
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Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
Lol, what? Fire off a nuke weapon because they sunk a ship? Christ on a bike. Pretty sure they can retaliate in a more measured way and even beyond the current theatre.
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No need to dramatize the situation but we can admit facts also.
I don't think anyone has sank Russian warship since the WW2. Now Kiev has. That's big for them even if it's not big for Russia. Because Russia is great power and Moskva a massive guided missile cruiser from superpower USSR.
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zorobabel wrote:Silly. The failures of the initial military operation can't be resolved by flattening towns and villages.Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
I'm angry, don't pay attention.
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Waited for what?flamming_python wrote:I'm afraid this will overshadow the entire Mariupol and Donbass operation but whatever. Now there's a wave of air-raid sirens and presumably missiles across the Ukraine - as if it will change anything. Will just add the bodycount of a fumbled war and make Russia look like a sore loser. They could have waited a few days.
I don't know what next. Continue with the operation in the Donbass I guess.
You not really thinking this to be some retaliation or anything out ordinary for a night in Ukraine, are you?
Because whole their country get air sirens and missile strikes, every single night, close to two months straight now.
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Medvedev is more of the same and Ramzan is definitely not the material.teh_beard wrote:None of the mentioned have any chance at it.caveat emptor wrote:Do you see anyone as a potential adequate candidate? I don't follow Russian political scene that much. I just have a feeling that likes of Shoigu, Naryshkin or Sechin wouldn't be a good choice.
Everyone always missing the obvious Medvedev. All memes aside, the man who makes other presidents eat neckwear.
Ramzan is really popular right now too, lol.
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Even more dabgerous is if we find out it was NATO that did this. Then you can for sure expect tactical nuks on Germany, Poland and Romania where US have troops.
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flamming_python wrote:I'm afraid this will overshadow the entire Mariupol and Donbass operation but whatever. Now there's a wave of air-raid sirens and presumably missiles across the Ukraine - as if it will change anything. Will just add the bodycount of a fumbled war and make Russia look like a sore loser and hand Kiev the propaganda win further. They could have waited a few days.
I don't know what next. Continue with the operation in the Donbass I guess.
Kiev government buildings should be leveled.
They are symbols of regime so even if someone says those targets have no real value in war (which is correct in certain way) they are the seats of rogue power (even if they are not there at the moment). Definitely worth 5 Iskanders.
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Lol this is so funny, took a while for observers to get with the program
Yes I'm glad everyone is acknowledging what a disaster this has been
Now calling for strikes, too little too late it seems
It has overshadowed everything, losing a fucking Slava
This is worse than USS Cole bombing
At least Americans have 60 burkes
1 of 3 Slava
**** this leadership and imbeciles who did all this
All Russians are united in anger at the Kremlin, an answer must be given as to WTF Clowns are doing
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The sunken flagship Moskva has risen from the Black Sea floor to engage the enemy ;-)
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Completely understandable. Problem is the Ukrops are totally embedded in urban areas.Podlodka77 wrote:zorobabel wrote:Silly. The failures of the initial military operation can't be resolved by flattening towns and villages.Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
I'm angry, don't pay attention.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Who's emotional now?
Have some self-reflection. You have been emotional since the start of the conflict, going from 'we're winning!' to 'we're losing!' more frequently than some change underpants. This is going to have an effect on your health and you should stop following the conflict live; unlikely as it is that you will heed my advice.
I've mentioned this before, though allow me to repeat myself - the war isn't going to change no matter how much or how little you post in this forum. Increase the time in between updating yourself on the news and you'll likely get a lot less 'inaccurate' information as it normalizes over time and more factual evidence comes out to make an informed opinion. The phenomena observed here on the forum aren't unique to this conflict - it's happened before in Georgia (2008), Ukraine (2014-2015), Syria (2011-2020), and Ukraine (2022 - now). People get hyped up over some insignificant event and start to make their own conclusions, only to become disappointed in the end or completely disillusioned, resulting in loss of confidence and depression. Unfortunately, people seldom reflect upon how they've behaved and step on the same proverbial rake time and time again.
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limb wrote:zorobabel wrote:More likely to be a mine or missile strike than an ammo detonation. Yes, there was a fire, but the cause of the fire was never indicated.limb wrote:This a huge embarrassment. How does a localized ammo detonation cause a ship to sink? Also the black sea has quite small waves, never exceeding 4m . Its storms are minor compared to oceanic storms.
A missile strike is more embarrassing since the Neptune is subsonic.
If it was a missile strike then the damage to Russian MoD credibility will be more embarrassing if they lie then simply admit it was a misslie.
At the very least the MoD should publish decent quality photos of the damage and the sinking to prove their claims.
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The Russians for the sake of their own people should provide footage of it being towed to counter.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:Who's emotional now?
Lol this is so funny, took a while for observers to get with the program
Yes I'm glad everyone is acknowledging what a disaster this has been
Now calling for strikes, too little too late it seems
It has overshadowed everything, losing a fucking Slava
This is worse than USS Cole bombing
At least Americans have 60 burkes
1 of 3 Slava
**** this leadership and imbeciles who did all this
All Russians are united in anger at the Kremlin, an answer must be given as to WTF Clowns are doing
What happened to you? It is like a different person is typing compared to few weeks ago.
As for 2014 Ukraine, mistake was, actually, done at the end of 2013 when FSB or politivians didn't recognize where Maidan protests were leading. It could have been all done in a week by infiltrating Maidanists and killing far right leaders. Lukashenko learned from Yanukovich mistakes.
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Well they can still try tho. However with loss of Slava, the Ukraine may feel it safe now to deploy forces previously prepared for Defense of Odessa elsewhere.
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On the networks, they are pure pro-Western, anti-Russian accounts of so-called "experts" who do nothing more than copy and paste what they like.
That is, when you refute something, they cannot substantiate it.
And all this, with an army of followers with fake accounts that repeat the same false information.
In the end, a chain of thousands of messages is made, whose origin is a mere rumour.
That all that garbage is brought to this forum, only manages to make it decline.
You have to focus on confirmed information.
And remember: this is a real war, not a video game for teenagers.
There are casualties and accidents. And there will still be.
The concrete thing is that the Russians have surrounded and fixed the Ukrainian military forces.
These do not go beyond making some attacks on the population or civil infrastructure.
And if it is against the Russian troops and the militias, some skirmishes that, in general, are not very effective and do not go beyond the tactical.
And to top it off, they then have to avoid being destroyed on the counterattack.
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zorobabel wrote:Podlodka77 wrote:zorobabel wrote:Silly. The failures of the initial military operation can't be resolved by flattening towns and villages.Podlodka77 wrote:It's time for tactical nuclear strikes.
I'm angry, don't pay attention.
Completely understandable. Problem is the Ukrops are totally embedded in urban areas.
There is no more "We want Ukraine to recognize Crimea as part of Russia and a special status for DPR and LPR", now Russia needs to go much further than that.
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still be a non-trivial risk. Are all the jet crashes also major "embarrassments". People should stop living in pulp fiction reality.
The most important thing is that most of the sailors were saved. If their rescue was f*cked up, then that would be unforgivable.
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