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    Post  ludovicense Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:08 pm

    Hole wrote:
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    This is a tentative list of US "protectorates" that will be represented only by the US ambassador in Moscow - assuming there will be one:

    _ UK
    _ Canada
    _ Poland
    _ Czech Republic
    _ Lithuania
    _ Latvia
    _ Estonia
    _ France
    _ Germany
    _ Italy
    _ Spain
    _ Romania
    _ Australia

    Keep in mind that most of these countries are dependent on the USA. They are not really independent. Germany itself has a large part of its economy focused on America. Its automotive and pharmaceutical industry, which is an exponent of this country, needs components and the American market. What's more, for explo 40% of the Airbus parts are of American origin. These vulnerabilities leave Europe hostage to North American pressure. The Baltic countries have nothing. They are nothing but cannon fodder. Italy is a bankrupt country with an astronomical debt. UK and Austraila =USA. Canada is an American state disguised as an independent country.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:25 pm

    ludovicense wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Pepe Escobar
    @RealPepeEscobar
    This is a tentative list of US "protectorates" that will be represented only by the US ambassador in Moscow - assuming there will be one:

    _ UK
    _ Canada
    _ Poland
    _ Czech Republic
    _ Lithuania
    _ Latvia
    _ Estonia
    _ France
    _ Germany
    _ Italy
    _ Spain
    _ Romania
    _ Australia

    Keep in mind that most of these countries are dependent on the USA. They are not really independent. Germany itself has a large part of its economy focused on America. Its automotive and pharmaceutical industry, which is an exponent of this country, needs components and the American market. What's more, for explo 40% of the Airbus parts are of American origin. These vulnerabilities leave Europe hostage to North American pressure. The Baltic countries have nothing. They are nothing but cannon fodder. Italy is a bankrupt country with an astronomical debt. UK and Austraila =USA. Canada is an American state disguised as an independent country.

    My friend, almost FIVE million cars sold in China last year are cars of German brands. The USA is NOT CLOSE to that figure.

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    Post  billybatts91 Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:32 pm

    JohninMK wrote:They will have some stories to tell.

    GEROMAN -- 👀 -
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    The largest one-time surrender since the beginning of the OP.
    In Mariupol, 264 enemy soldiers and officers from the 501st Separate Marine Battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (36th Marine Brigade) surrendered.
    The motto of the 501st battalion_:"God and victory are with us."


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    I guess God and victory were not on their side lol.

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    Post  Isos Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:35 pm

    Looks like a lot of chechens or arabs in that group.

    If they had surrender one week ago it would have saved precious lifes. They fought for no reason there. Totally surounded they were.

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    Post  psg Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:54 pm

    Looking at those pics and videos of the ukr marines surrendering in mariupol, compared to the new video surfacing today of RF forces executed. 4 that are visible, 1 of them with his hands tied behind. Not sure if they are vdv, but am sure the vehicle on the side of the road is a bmd.

    I have stated, as have many others, these ukr forces, nationalists, azov cunts just won't change and give up their western fed hate for Russians just like that, no peace settlement will contain them, they will try to find any way or means to keep killing, as they have done for yrs.

    They need to be crushed, destroyed so their wretched hate and views are buried with them. So once and for all, that poison is drained from them, so they won't infect others.
    They have to be drawn-out and defeated for good.


    The western world is hooked on their own shit, poisoning others. It is in the interest of Russians to totally break away from this cancerous part of the world, even though the separation will be painful to a degree. But worth it in the long-term.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:56 pm

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:01 am

    Keep in mind MI6 (from the Shittish, Great Shitstain, formerly the UK) planned the Kabuki theater.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:03 am

    VARGR198 wrote:

    I'm hoping that this is a pure provocation and that no artillery was fired. But there was a lot of damage on that street. Could well be from Grads

    But that leaves the question as to where the dead bodies came from. If they were really dead.


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:04 am

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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:05 am

    flamming_python wrote:
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    I'm hoping that this is a pure provocation and that no artillery was fired

    But that leaves the question as to where the dead bodies came from. If they were really dead.

    You have deads everywhere unfortunately. Bringing 10 dead and dressing them as civilians is a matter of 2 hours.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:06 am

    psg wrote:Looking at those pics and videos of the ukr marines surrendering in mariupol, compared to the new video surfacing today of RF forces executed. 4 that are visible, 1 of them with his hands tied behind. Not sure if they are vdv, but am sure the vehicle on the side of the road is a bmd.

    I have stated, as have many others, these ukr forces, nationalists, azov cunts just won't change and give up their western fed hate for Russians just like that, no peace settlement will contain them, they will try to find any way or means to keep killing, as they have done for yrs.

    They need to be crushed, destroyed so their wretched hate and views are buried with them. So once and for all, that poison is drained from them, so they won't infect others.
    They have to be drawn-out and defeated for good.


    The western world is hooked on their own shit, poisoning others. It is in the interest of Russians to totally break away from this cancerous part of the world, even though the separation will be painful to a degree. But worth it in the long-term.

    i know, i have seen it. i have it....

    some where still alive after "execution" and the Ukro's took their time with them.

    For the dignity of the victim's, dont post it here.

    Or Garry must be able to shield an 18+ thread for members only.
    But i do not think this forum supports that from an technical aspect.

    I will not upload or post that content.
    I already found my content back on two anti-russia sites online.

    Labour camps in Siberia needs to be reactivated for these kinds of people.
    They will know hunger, frostbite, and pain for the rest of their lives after conviction.
    Death would be too easy.

    If they do not survive, no matter i guess. they still would be purged from this earth.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:10 am

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    Post  VARGR198 Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:11 am

    Getting medals for moving into areas Russia withdrew from days before.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:12 am

    Isos wrote:
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    I'm hoping that this is a pure provocation and that no artillery was fired

    But that leaves the question as to where the dead bodies came from. If they were really dead.

    You have deads everywhere unfortunately. Bringing 10 dead and dressing them as civilians is a matter of 2 hours.

    They were all fresh it seemed. If the Russian military withdrew by agreement and Ukrainian forces entered, then why would there be newly dead.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:21 am



    Warning! Graphic posts that I'll provide links instead of embeds:
    Ukrainian president advisor Arestovich joined the spread of this footage of the Azov crime in Mariupol saying that this is a Russian crime in Gostomel.

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510899452214657028

    April 2nd. Bucha. The footage by the National Police of Ukraine “clean up the city from saboteurs and collaborators with Russian troops”.

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510892389703077890

    The video itself.

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510878316978388998

    From a video by @PLnewstoday

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510875815604543488

    One of the footages from Mariupol with this Azov victim.(This one posted 6 days ago).

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510873653650546688

    This gets widely spread. But that’s a photo from Mariupol. The girl was tortured by Azov militants. The footage was made a few days ago in one of Azov strongholds there. This crime was thoroughly documented.

    https://twitter.com/politblogme/status/1510871011025117184

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:22 am

    A really interesting analysis of what the US's objectives for Ukraine might have been in its decades long plan for Russia and how Russia hasn't reacted as expected.

    It is a long read, 20 minutes or so but well worth your time. For those who don't know, Helmer is an Australian jorno who spent years in Russia and still specialises in it even tho', for a reason I forgot, he got expelled.

    http://johnhelmer.org/how-to-read-the-war-in-reverse-without-outsmarting-yourself/

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:45 am



    Ukrainian political operative @lesiavasylenko is spreading an especially cynical fake:

    The original image was captured by @PLnewstoday
    and showed the corpse of a woman tortured and murdered in a Mariupol school basement by Ukrainian Nazis – the allies of Vasylenko.

    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1511053915088990215

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