Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5
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Mir wrote:Statement from MOD about the air strike on the hospital >>
I will focus separately on the information provocation of the Kiev regime with the alleged "strike" by Russian aviation on Mariupol hospital No. 3 yesterday.
First of all, I would like to note that the Russian Defense Ministry announced a "silence regime" yesterday for the safe evacuation of civilians in the city. Absolutely no tasks for hitting targets on the ground were carried out by Russian aviation in the region of Mariupol.
The analysis of statements made by representatives of the Kiev nationalist regime, photographs from the hospital, leaves no doubt. The alleged "airstrike" is a completely staged provocation to maintain the anti-Russian hype among the Western audience.
Medical institutions in Mariupol, including Hospital No. 3, stopped their regular work at the end of February. All the staff and patients were dispersed by the nationalists. The hospital building, due to its advantageous tactical location close to the city center, has been converted into a stronghold of the national battalion "Azov". This is massively reported by residents of the city who have moved both to Kiev-controlled and Donetsk People's Republic-controlled areas.
Photographs of the hospital grounds contain evidence of two separate staged explosions near the hospital. A buried underground one and another of small capacity, directed to the hospital building.
The nature of external and internal damage to the building may mislead the mass non-professional audience in Europe and the USA, for which this production was made, but not experts.
A high-explosive aviation munition, even of lower power, simply would not have left anything from the outer walls of the building.
That air strike was fake as fk. White Helmets school of photography and film.
There were already people writing from Mariupol that it was all staged, and blaming Zelensky as well for not providing humanitarian corridors.
Someone found the pregnant girl featured in the scene; she's a local actress or model or some such - albeit she is pregnant for real.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/42080?single
Hahaha the real ninjas arrived to join operation Z
Just kidding, much respect to Africa!
Thank you for support !
Russia will support all Africa in sovereignty
Mali, Sudan, Cameroon, Ethiopia Congo, CAR , Mozambique all deserve freedom, and in reality all of Africa does from European meddling
They didnt like how Ukraine is treating blacks and indians and they're with Z to repay the favor
This looks mostly like a special forces op at this stage, in Mariupol, Kharkov and later Kiev. And although plenty of NATO volunteers are coming, I don't think Russia needs any help, except maybe from Belarus SF, I think they're joining in.
However all these volunteers and mercs might be free to join the LNR and DNR as part of a volunteer corps. The LNR/DNR armies be tasked with taking out those Ukrainian units that do not switch loyalty to the new Ukrainian govt/state once its declared in Kharkov.
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Erk wrote:Hole wrote:kvs wrote:The earlier posted crater was an Azov fake. The so-called bombing of the Mariupol maternity hospital. This hospital
would have been demolished if Russian forces bombed it. The hospital was cleaned out of patients and medical staff three
days ago and is an Azov base. Also, there was a quiet period declared yesterday for the function of the humanitarian
corridors.
They used some Nazi slut/"model", she was resuced multiple times, al-Kaida "white helmets" style.
Why does she need a 4man stretcher when she was walking by herself in the previous photo?
Where are their white helmets?
The same woman was rescued multiple times, man. The thing was staged. The "white helmets" did such stunts in Syria for years.
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JohninMK wrote:
It’s a short range air defence system (SHORAD), so anything within 10km is game. You basically line up the optical sight with the target, fire the missile at it, then continue tracking the target with the optical sight. It uses a variation of the semi-automatic command line of sight (SACLOS) guidance system. The command unit paints the target with a pair of modulated lasers. When fired the missile assembly releases the three darts. Each dart measures the delta between the command unit’s tracking angle and the missile. It will then steer the dart to minimise the delta angle. Where it will then hit the target with the darts.
Due to the Mach 4+ speed of Starstreak, the closure speed is enormous, so the time of flight to hitting the target is relatively short. This means that a target flying over you will remain painted by the command unit and not have much chance of evading it. The system was predominantly designed to counter attack helicopters that do pop-up attacks from cover. As the WARSAW PACT Mil24s used wire guided missiles (much like TOW), this meant they had to hover in place when firing at a target. Therefore, the missile’s high speed was required to hit the helicopter before it could track the target. Once the helicopter was hit, the wired guided missile would go ballistic and miss the moving target. The missile’s high speed also meant that high speed low flying fixed wing aircraft, were easier to defend against. Roll on twenty years, Starstreak has been given more range. It is still very deadly against attack helicopters, but also against UAVs.
As it uses lasers to paint the target, unless the aircraft has a laser warning system, it won’t detect the launch. The missile does not leave a noticeable smoke trail, so a visual warning is also not likely, unless you are flying directly or looking at the right spot when its launched. The system is very difficult to jam and next to impossible to decoy.
As Ukraine will only be getting the MANPAD version. This system uses predominantly the operator’s visual searching to detect targets. It does have a thermal detection optic. I don’t know if they will be getting the additional air defence alerting device (ADAD). The ADAD is a development of the Typhoon’s PIRATE IRST. It provides the operator with both day and night passive searching and extends the search range.
The tripod mounted control unit can also fire the LMM Martlet missile.
If Ukraine get the system, it will be the first time its really been used in anger. It was taken to the Gulf War 2. Though I can’t remember if was used? During training days, the system was very reliable in both use and hitting the target.
Unlike Stinger, Starstreak is not a fire and forget weapon system. The operator must remain tracking the target all the way until it hits. However, the missile is nearly twice as fast as the Stinger and has double the range. It is also a lot more robust, as you don’t have be so careful handling it, due to the lack of cryogenic cooling for the Stinger’s IR sensor.
In Ukraine’s hand Starstreak will be deadly to Russian manned aircraft and UAVs.[/i]
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-sending-anti-aircraft-and-javelin-missiles-to-ukraine/
Problem with starstreak is as it states you need to track the target and secondly it needs a direct hit to be successful it isn't direction blast or proximity. It's uses steel darts to penetrate. It's also one of the most expensive MANPADS systems and there could be quite a few misses.
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Updates
1) The US and allies preparing to send "more sophisticated" air defense systems to Ukraine than the shoulder-fired MANPADS already sent, defense official says. Although U.S. will NOT provide Patriot missile defense batteries to Ukraine: senior U.S. defense official. Giving Ukraine top-grade American missile batteries would force the U.S. to send troops to the war-torn country, which BIDEN has ruled out
2) Russian military has been able to move forward in advance on Ukraine's capital of Kyiv. Russia has forces near Hostomel Airport that have advanced to 3 miles from Kyiv city limits. Another northeast advance is 25 miles east of Kyiv
3) Asked about why sending the fighter jets is viewed as too high risk, @PressSec says "I would say what our assessment is based on is how to prevent a world war here
4) Up to 70% of the population has already been evacuated from Korosten
5) Macron Says He Plans to Speak With Putin Again in 48 Hours
6) ECB President: Russian Operation in Ukraine to Have Material Impact on Global Economy
7) Intel Director: US Provided Biosafety Assistance at Around a Dozen Biolabs in Ukraine
8 ) Biden Blames Putin's Actions for US Inflation Reaching New 40-Year High
Today’s inflation report is a reminder that Americans' budgets are being stretched by price increases and families are starting to feel the impacts of Putin’s price hike
9) After Snubbing Biden, Saudi Aramco Agrees to Build Massive Refinery in China.
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Sujoy wrote:How exactly are foreign students parasites in Ukraine? They contribute billions of $$ to Ukraine's economy. Ukraine is not doing a favor by inviting them to their universities.lyle6 wrote: These people call Ukraine home back when its mostly safe and prosperous - well relative to the shitholes they came from.
How quickly they change tunes when its all gone to shit - and even have the audacity to demand special treatment, when they refuse to do their part for their so-called "home".
Sorry, these parasites get zero sympathy from me.
Majority of students from Asia go back to their own country after graduation since jobs in Ukraine are few and far between. In fact hundreds of thousands of Ukranians themselves work in foreign countries.
Re the "shithole" part a country filled with Nazis like Ukraine is no different. Even their benefactor the U.S describes them as one of the most corrupt country in the world, lower in ranking than even India & China.
Some people have their minds made up, and some people are using substantiation, supposition and suppositories interchangeably, but it's not my job to convince everyone.
But what I do know is that The African Union unanimously supported Russian retrocession of the territory of Crimea, so the claim that 'they don't care' about Russian concerns in Ukraine is a blatantly false accusation that is fairly easy to rebuke:
Margelov: Pan-African Parliament supports Russia’s stance on Crimea
JOHANNESBURG, March 19 (2014), /ITAR-TASS/. The Pan-African Parliament (PAP) has voiced support for Russia’s stance on Crimea, saying no one has the right to call the will of the Crimean people expressed at a referendum into question, Mikhail Margelov, the Russian president’s special envoy for cooperation with Africa and the head of the Federation Council Committee on Foreign Affairs, told Itar-Tass on Wednesday.
Margelov, who is attending a PAP session, said that Ghana’ s former president Jerry Rawlings had been the first to set the tonality for the discussion.
“He gave his full and absolute support to Russia’s stance on Crimea. The deputies applauded him. After that, he came up to me and shook my hand. Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni said the same in a private conversation,” Margelov said, noting that the Pan-African deputies told him that the days of the uni-polar world were over because Russia was strong again.
“You are our hope,” the deputies stressed.
The Pan-African Parliament, which unites 54 African countries and is the main legislative body of the African Union, noted a positive tonality of a speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin devoted to Crimea which all Pan-African deputies listened to with great attention.
“The deputies stressed that no one could challenge people’s will expressed at the referendum and that no one had cancelled the right of nations to self-determination. The African MPs criticized the West for its policy of double standards, which the African states could also feel on themselves,” Margelov went on to say.
The Russian lawmaker became convinced once again that countries whom Russia had been helping since the times of the Russian Empire and the former Soviet Union remained reliable partners.
“It is vitally important for them that Russia is not dancing to anybody’s tune but is defending its national interests. This is my biggest emotional impression from this session,” Margelov emphasized.
He has also met Mauritania’s President Mohamed Ould Abdel Aziz, who is the African Union’s current chairperson.
“Africans are willing to participate in the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. If the West decides to cut relations with Russia, they are ready to discuss how to re-orient us to Africa and continue a dialogue which Russian President Vladimir Putin started with 20 African leaders on the sidelines of the BRICS summit held in South Africa last year. Africans believe that we have what to offer each other in the sphere of economy and trade,” the Russian lawmaker stressed.
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IMO 80% of the fighting forces are trapped in Donbass and Kiev area. They can't flee anymore.
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Isos wrote:They are starting using Krasnopol and probably more drones. I guess they pushed the ukrainians to use the same positions and tactics as the "syrian rebels" against which they are used to fight. Now the losses among ukrainians will be catastrophic.
IMO 80% of the fighting forces are trapped in Donbass and Kiev area. They can't flee anymore.
How about 1, 2, or perhaps 30 FOABS to soften them up first? Now is the time to field test them in live combat!!!
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Great article, maybe belongs in economy thread, but discusses sanctions impact and today's legislation on creation of task forces managing capital outflows
The CBR has been neutered of its duties, usually they managed capital outflows, bailing out various oligarchs banks, and schemes,
Yegor Gaidar, Anatoly Chubais, Alexei Kudrin, Elvira Niabullina, German Gref, Oleg Deripaska are being hammered hard
10k limit means no more money will leave Russia
Add to that the mandatory obligation to open accounts in rubles, and those Oligarchs abroad are literally fucked
They have no way to operate anymore with Russia and are cutoff from the system
Since the black economy is effectively destroyed, and any Oligarch who surrenders must report to new GCCFI council headed by Shoigu, Bortnikov, Mishustin and others , there is a battle taking place between Niabullina and the Liberal gang vs the patriots
Once the black trillions Niabullina managed is repatriated , or cutoff forever, there is no need for her anymore
This is the beginning stages of the establishment of a entirely new economy, probably not seen since the GOSPLAN of CCCP
If every other economy worldwide runs this way, why not Russia? Granted noone is saying skyrocket in debt
But the currency revaluation will help the inflationary pressure that the devil Niabullina is not arresting but rather inflaming with her 20% interest rate.
If Russia can control outflows, it can print more money, and lower the interest rates
At the same time, targeted stock repurchases can resolve the currency devaluation , its said around 10 to 15 billion Dollars worth of Rubles can restore the Ruble to previous pegs
But this is only bandaids, a new approach is needed.
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Dr.Snufflebug wrote:Those international mercenaries from a few days ago seem to have an awful lot of FN FNC's. Strikes me as a bit odd, given that 5.56x45 supply is bound to be limited. Also, wonder who supplied them.
PS. Even if some of them are veterans from the ME or wherever, they've never been on the receiving end of cruise missiles, loitering munitions, huge artillery barrages and, as I suspect we'll see eventually, actual strategic bombing. I think they're in for a rude awakening.
...And add this. Honestly didn't think there'd be stories like these so soon.
Okay, it's The Sun, so there's the usual tabloid stuff and the general propaganda tone, so make of it what you will, but:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17899587/ukraine-war-russia-british-fighter/
British volunteer, twice Iraq veteran, went to Ukraine and was shocked by what an actual modern war between near-peers looks like. Quite different from fighting ill-equipped, ill-trained and generally disorganized insurgencies, while having a 20:1 advantage and full-on and air support at all times.
Jason and ten soldiers from the Georgian Legion took cover in woodland. Jason, who served with the Mercian Regiment, added: “We got very close to getting whacked. I’ve never experienced firepower like that, I don’t think anyone of this generation ever has.
“Iraq and Afghanistan was totally different. The Russians are a conventional modern army.”
He subsequently decided to get out of there. The SBU got hold of him, beat him and interrogated him for three hours. But he managed to flee across the Polish border at last, and then back to Britain.
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I want to know is it true that Russia attacked a maternity hospital?
I live here in America so I wanted to ask you guys who might know more about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-thanks-poland-helping-1-114635502.html
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andalusia wrote:US Vice President Harris wants Russia investigated for war crimes.
I want to know is it true that Russia attacked a maternity hospital?
I live here in America so I wanted to ask you guys who might know more about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-thanks-poland-helping-1-114635502.html
Did you ever bother to read the thread?
its on the same damn page buddy.
https://www.russiadefence.net/t8757p700-russian-special-military-operation-in-ukraine-5#366373
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Isos wrote:They are starting using Krasnopol and probably more drones. I guess they pushed the ukrainians to use the same positions and tactics as the "syrian rebels" against which they are used to fight. Now the losses among ukrainians will be catastrophic.
IMO 80% of the fighting forces are trapped in Donbass and Kiev area. They can't flee anymore.
Tactical problems? These Twit-tards need to grow brains. I don't care if they are not frothing at the mouth Russia haters.
Analysis I have heard over the last few days has identified the gradual loss of regime shelling ability in certain major urban areas.
Russia did not need to use guided artillery for most of its operations. Russian tactics are informed and developed. Twit-tards
have no clue.
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andalusia wrote:US Vice President Harris wants Russia investigated for war crimes.
I want to know is it true that Russia attacked a maternity hospital?
I live here in America so I wanted to ask you guys who might know more about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-thanks-poland-helping-1-114635502.html
Ukraine is populated by clones of one woman. And Russian bombing does not damage
buildings enough to destroy them. More news at 11.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:diabetus wrote:Bizarre posts like these are usually the consequence of forgetting to take one's medication.
This coming from a guy with multiple personalities disorder...a personality for every account you have BitTurdBurgler, and your response sounds like it came from the same place where you store your suppositories. In fact from the sound of your posts, I'm guessing this current personality/alias underwent lobotomization?
Uh...no this is my only account here ever. I wouldn't be surprised if i came here before you. I first saw Garry or GazB here many years ago on Mpnet and keypub.
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andalusia wrote:US Vice President Harris wants Russia investigated for war crimes.
I want to know is it true that Russia attacked a maternity hospital?
I live here in America so I wanted to ask you guys who might know more about it.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/harris-thanks-poland-helping-1-114635502.html
Of course it's not true. That maternity hospital was evacuated already at the end of February and Azov took up positions there
I'm not sure if Russia bombed it or they bombed it themselves, probably the later as they had a film and photography crew all set up. 11 injured, no deaths. Likely story from bombing a hospital.
Russia is not bombing anything in Mariupol. It seems to be using drones in combination with guided mortar rounds to hit rooftops of buildings, where the ATGM teams are all set up.
They're saying now that it will be another 7-8 days before the city is cleared.
Quite a slow pace unfortunately. At that rate it would take a couple of months to clear Kharkov, and half a year to clear Kiev.
But I guess to avoid civilian casualties its unavoidable.
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