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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:06 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:UK energy minister and Zelensky must have been sharing the same crack pipe today  lol! Still waiting to see all these pictures and videos of these 10k Russian troops dead they show everything else why not this? Haven't they managed to make fakes yet?

    Ukraine offering $1mn for Russian pilots to defect as they become desperate for aircraft comical  lol!

    And USA banning Russian oil will have serious blacklash and USA and EU divided on Russian Energy. Suddenly these sanctions don't seem so impressive.

    Updates

    1) Russian troops captured northern part of Izyum town, all bridges over Siversky Donets blown up

    2) The White House: Imposing a limited no-fly zone over Ukraine to protect civilians is an escalatory step

    3) Polish MFA: "The authorities of Poland are ready to deploy –immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the USA At the same Poland requests U.S. to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities"

    4)António Guterres Secretary-General of the United Nations: Developing countries cannot afford the skyrocketing prices of food, fuel and other commodities

    5) New imagery from Baranovichi air base reveals the arrival of another A50 / A100 AWACS to the air base (in addition to those we revealed on March 6th) and 2 Mil Mi-26 helicopters

    6) LVIV, Ukraine, March 8 (Reuters) - Ukrainian state arms manufacturer Ukroboronprom said on Tuesday it would pay $1 million to anyone who captured a combat-ready Russian military aircraft - an offer it said was open to Russian pilots wanting to switch sides.

    7) Ukrainian President before British Parliament: Russian losses exceeded 10,000 soldiers

    8 ) Kyiv has about 10 days to two weeks of supplies yet, as Russia tries to choke off Ukraine Capital, said Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Berrier. "With supplies being cut off, it will become somewhat desperate," General Berrier said

    9) Foreign Minister Baerbock currently believes that Putin cannot be stopped. Baerbock at @BILD: "We must do everything to stop this war. This President is apparently unstoppable at the moment because he is crossing all human boundaries."

    10) Latest @planet imagery shows the flooding of the land north of Kyiv stop the advance of Russian troops last week. Believed to caused by opening of a large flood gate.

    11) Sweden's Prime Minister: Accession to NATO May Destabilise Europe

    12) OPEC Believes Oil Price Now 'Unhealthy' for Everyone, Expects Quick Crisis Resolution

    13) Putin Signs Decree on Special Economic Measures in Field of Foreign Economic Activity to Ensure Russia's Security

    14) S&P Global: Events in Ukraine Will Lead to Global Oil Supply Disruption, Possible Biggest in History Since Russia is Irreplaceable as Supplier

    15) Borrell: EU Does Not Intend to Ban Russian Energy Imports

    16) CIA Chief: US, Ukraine Doing 'Intensive' Intelligence Sharing

    17) UK to Stop Importing Russian Oil & Oil Products by End of 2022, Energy Minister Says

    18) Scholars: US Ban on Russian Oil Expected to Unleash Hell on Consumers & Upend Dems' Election Odds

    They don't even have that kind of money to try and bribe people.

    I bet Russian pilots now want to drop a bomb on Zelensky for insulting them.

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    Post  Ispan Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:08 pm

    Today's war report. Sickened of so much blood and horror regarding civilians victims of the nazis and can't get to write about it. My only satisfaction is that the ukronazis are getting what they deserve and that this war mercifully will be over soon, or so I pray

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/08/parte-de-guerra-08-03-2022-informes-analisis-y-noticias/

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:15 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Broski wrote:
    3) Polish MFA: "The authorities of Poland are ready to deploy –immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the USA At the same Poland requests U.S. to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities"
    Seems like Poland doesn't want these fighter jets using Polish air bases to launch attacks in the Ukraine, that's uncharacteristically intelligent of them.


    Polish government already stated that it will not give Ukraine any aircraft.

    I have no idea where these false claims come from.


    It also denied the claim that it will allow the Ukrainian military to use any facilities in Poland.


    Not fake came from polish government. CNN also covered the story. The only difference now is that they are not willing to have the aircraft based in Poland but Germany. Making Germany a target. I am sure Germany will tell them to piss off with their Mig-29. And USA already backed the move however at the same time it didn't have aircraft to give Poland although they were looking at options. These statements came governments not Twitter. I highly doubt that Ukraine pilots will want to as soon as they fly over the border into Ukraine S-400 will get them.

    Poland said on Tuesday that it was ready to deploy — immediately and free of charge — all their MiG-29 fighter jets to the US Air Force’s Ramstein Air Base in Germany and place them at the disposal of Washington to provide them to Ukraine, according to a statement from the Polish foreign ministry.

    “At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes,” it added.
    The Polish government in the statement urged “other NATO Allies — owners of MIG-29 jets — to act in the same vein.”

    A senior US defense official tells CNN that they've seen the Polish government’s announcement and "have nothing to offer at this time


    USA finally made a statement on it.

    U.S. Under Secretary of State Nuland says Poland's decision to put all its Mig-29 jets at U.S. disposal was not pre-consulted with the United States



    So Poland is going to give to the U.S. military its own fighter jets for free, and, in exchange, the Polish government will purchase fighter jets from the U.S.A.?


    Sounds like a total rip-off.

    I wonder if the other NATO members states will give their own fighter jets for free?

    Vassal state.


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:22 pm

    I have a question: is Russian youth nationalist or is it colonized by the West? how is he reacting? How are the young people in "deep Russia"? I estimate that the liberal clowns should be in the capitals and urban centers of the main cities living a comfortable and mediocre life.
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:25 pm

    I think they are under huge pressure by the US to give their migs but know very well that russians would love to use a tactical nuk and make an exemple by leveling a polish air base.

    That's why they proposed that. Take them in your base in germany and give them to the ukrainians yourself and get your own base leveled by a nuk.

    It's a desperate "**** off" to their masters.

    Europeans IMO are coming to teir limits with those anglo-saxon pushes for ore war there. In France the industry is alrzady suffering from tis war. Germans are gonna pay the heaviest price.


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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:25 pm

    ArgentinaGuard wrote:I have a question: is Russian youth nationalist or is it colonized by the West? how is he reacting? How are the young people in "deep Russia"? I estimate that the liberal clowns should be in the capitals and urban centers of the main cities living a comfortable and mediocre life.

    What? Is this even a question?
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:30 pm

    No idea where they get this info!

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    Russian has been moving dozens of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. It has been also preparing a large SEAD forces. Everything indicate that we may soon see a large shock and awe wave.

    Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺@ejmalrai·2h#BreakingNews:
    #Russia injected all the reserve forces that were not involved in the battle in the first days in #Ukraine. The total number of Russian forces in Ukraine is now near 150,000, indicating Russia's determination to end the battle. A potential change of tactic expected

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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:32 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:UK energy minister and Zelensky must have been sharing the same crack pipe today  lol! Still waiting to see all these pictures and videos of these 10k Russian troops dead they show everything else why not this? Haven't they managed to make fakes yet?

    Ukraine offering $1mn for Russian pilots to defect as they become desperate for aircraft comical  lol!

    And USA banning Russian oil will have serious blacklash and USA and EU divided on Russian Energy. Suddenly these sanctions don't seem so impressive.

    Updates

    1) Russian troops captured northern part of Izyum town, all bridges over Siversky Donets blown up

    2) The White House: Imposing a limited no-fly zone over Ukraine to protect civilians is an escalatory step

    3) Polish MFA: "The authorities of Poland are ready to deploy –immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the USA At the same Poland requests U.S. to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities"

    4)António Guterres Secretary-General of the United Nations: Developing countries cannot afford the skyrocketing prices of food, fuel and other commodities

    5) New imagery from Baranovichi air base reveals the arrival of another A50 / A100 AWACS to the air base (in addition to those we revealed on March 6th) and 2 Mil Mi-26 helicopters

    6) LVIV, Ukraine, March 8 (Reuters) - Ukrainian state arms manufacturer Ukroboronprom said on Tuesday it would pay $1 million to anyone who captured a combat-ready Russian military aircraft - an offer it said was open to Russian pilots wanting to switch sides.

    7) Ukrainian President before British Parliament: Russian losses exceeded 10,000 soldiers

    8 ) Kyiv has about 10 days to two weeks of supplies yet, as Russia tries to choke off Ukraine Capital, said Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Berrier. "With supplies being cut off, it will become somewhat desperate," General Berrier said

    9) Foreign Minister Baerbock currently believes that Putin cannot be stopped. Baerbock at @BILD: "We must do everything to stop this war. This President is apparently unstoppable at the moment because he is crossing all human boundaries."

    10) Latest @planet imagery shows the flooding of the land north of Kyiv stop the advance of Russian troops last week. Believed to caused by opening of a large flood gate.

    11) Sweden's Prime Minister: Accession to NATO May Destabilise Europe

    12) OPEC Believes Oil Price Now 'Unhealthy' for Everyone, Expects Quick Crisis Resolution

    13) Putin Signs Decree on Special Economic Measures in Field of Foreign Economic Activity to Ensure Russia's Security

    14) S&P Global: Events in Ukraine Will Lead to Global Oil Supply Disruption, Possible Biggest in History Since Russia is Irreplaceable as Supplier

    15) Borrell: EU Does Not Intend to Ban Russian Energy Imports

    16) CIA Chief: US, Ukraine Doing 'Intensive' Intelligence Sharing

    17) UK to Stop Importing Russian Oil & Oil Products by End of 2022, Energy Minister Says

    18) Scholars: US Ban on Russian Oil Expected to Unleash Hell on Consumers & Upend Dems' Election Odds

    Those who are going to benefit are the Republicans. Trump has a good chance of being president again.

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote:No idea where they get this info!

    Within Syria
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    Russian has been moving dozens of ballistic missiles and cruise missiles. It has been also preparing a large SEAD forces. Everything indicate that we may soon see a large shock and awe wave.

    Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺@ejmalrai·2h#BreakingNews:
    #Russia injected all the reserve forces that were not involved in the battle in the first days in #Ukraine. The total number of Russian forces in Ukraine is now near 150,000, indicating Russia's determination to end the battle. A potential change of tactic expected

    Plenty of iskanders reloads seen on the move as well as 3 ELINT aircraft in Belarus.

    They also have moved a lot of an-2 aircraft that could be used to spot ukrainian remaining AD.

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    Post  walle83 Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:39 pm

    Urluber wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:What they are doing to Russia has never been seen in human history. Not even Nazi Germany had such sanctions.

    Yes.
    And there is good reason for that: Russia is also the only one who has been able to stand against the western hordes. I mean there is no non-western country in the history of mankind other than Russia who would have raised its flag over Berlin, marched with its army through triumph arch of Paris. There are still memorial tombs of American soldiers somewhere in Vladivostok from their previous attempt to have a say at matters in Russia.

    Western power circles are fully aware of this. And they are now doing everything to prevent Russia gaining more strength. It's their job. But so it is the job of Russia to make sure they fail again - as every other time in the history when they have tried.


    I would say they are doing a very good job so far. The russian economy is in a free fall and the sanctions continues to grow. This will have severe consequences for Russia both for the people and for the Russian ability to rearm its military.

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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:44 pm

    Taiwanese must be shiiting in their pants looking at this twitt. If all the bombs in ukraine were declared as not enough by the chinese, taiwan is gonna experience a whole new type of massive conventional bombing. And they have a shitton of missiles, they have as many type of missile as the number of iskander launched during this war. If they have produced only 100 of each it will already be too many for Taiwan to handle. Now imagine cinese industry producing missikes for a war. They could probably make hundreds per day.


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    A troubling and obvious lesson that Chinese strategists take from the Russian invasion of Ukraine for a Taiwan scenario is that the firepower preparation needs to be much more intense. Zhongguo Junwang, 7Mar.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:44 pm

    Isos wrote:
    as well as 3 ELINT aircraft in Belarus.

    The only 3 I've seen are A-50s and they are AWACs not ELINT. The latter will surely be operating out of Russia proper?

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    Post  Belisarius Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:50 pm

    walle83 wrote:I would say they are doing a very good job so far. The russian economy is in a free fall and the sanctions continues to grow. This will have severe consequences for Russia both for the people and for the Russian ability to rearm its military.

    https://youtu.be/GjGGkM6TN88
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    Post  Isos Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:50 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    as well as 3 ELINT aircraft in Belarus.

    The only 3 I've seen are A-50s and they are AWACs not ELINT. The latter will surely be operating out of Russia proper?

    They bring il-20M and il-22PP (not sure about the name). They are ELINT plateforms and will start recording ukrainian AD and communications. A-50U will coordinated the bombers.

    I'm surprised tu-214R was deployed there but maybe it's operating in the south in Crimea. They will probably coordinate a simultanous offensive on all of the fronts.

    I'm also surprised such aircraft weren't send there from the begining. They are very important.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:52 pm

    Belisarius wrote:
    walle83 wrote:I would say they are doing a very good job so far. The russian economy is in a free fall and the sanctions continues to grow. This will have severe consequences for Russia both for the people and for the Russian ability to rearm its military.

    https://youtu.be/GjGGkM6TN88

    You are talking to a known moron. Guy knows **** all about Russia or economics. Let alone Russia produces its own military gear.

    Guys a fucking retard and should have also been banned.

    The guy is from Sweden. He has been caught lying plenty of times. It's time he is removed from the forums.


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    Post  Urluber Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:53 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    Urluber wrote:
    ArgentinaGuard wrote:What they are doing to Russia has never been seen in human history. Not even Nazi Germany had such sanctions.

    Yes.
    And there is good reason for that: Russia is also the only one who has been able to stand against the western hordes. I mean there is no non-western country in the history of mankind other than Russia who would have raised its flag over Berlin, marched with its army through triumph arch of Paris. There are still memorial tombs of American soldiers somewhere in Vladivostok from their previous attempt to have a say at matters in Russia.

    Western power circles are fully aware of this. And they are now doing everything to prevent Russia gaining more strength. It's their job. But so it is the job of Russia to make sure they fail again - as every other time in the history when they have tried.


    I would say they are doing a very good job so far. The russian economy is in a free fall and the sanctions continues to grow. This will have severe consequences for Russia both for the people and for the Russian ability to rearm its military.

    Nah, I would say there has been tougher attempts at life of Russia by the west.

    Of course, it can be viewed as a mistake to some extent to put so many eggs in the western basket since the 80's. Then again it's easy to criticize, I'm not leading a country here. But IMO this should be foremost seen as an opportunity to put an end to it. Even if Russia has not been pursuing fully independent alternative for the past +30 years the recent events clearly show there still is demand for it in the world. I'm referring to the fact that only tiny fraction of world community is taking part in the sanctions.


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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:54 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Broski wrote:
    3) Polish MFA: "The authorities of Poland are ready to deploy –immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Rammstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the USA At the same Poland requests U.S. to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities"
    Seems like Poland doesn't want these fighter jets using Polish air bases to launch attacks in the Ukraine, that's uncharacteristically intelligent of them.

    Polish government already stated that it will not give Ukraine any aircraft.

    I have no idea where these false claims come from.

    It also denied the claim that it will allow the Ukrainian military to use any facilities in Poland.

    Not fake came from polish government. CNN also covered the story. The only difference now is that they are not willing to have the aircraft based in Poland but Germany. Making Germany a target. I am sure Germany will tell them to piss off with their Mig-29. And USA already backed the move however at the same time it didn't have aircraft to give Poland although they were looking at options. These statements came governments not Twitter. I highly doubt that Ukraine pilots will want to as soon as they fly over the border into Ukraine S-400 will get them.

    Poland said on Tuesday that it was ready to deploy — immediately and free of charge — all their MiG-29 fighter jets to the US Air Force’s Ramstein Air Base in Germany and place them at the disposal of Washington to provide them to Ukraine, according to a statement from the Polish foreign ministry.

    “At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes,” it added.
    The Polish government in the statement urged “other NATO Allies — owners of MIG-29 jets — to act in the same vein.”

    A senior US defense official tells CNN that they've seen the Polish government’s announcement and "have nothing to offer at this time

    USA finally made a statement on it.

    U.S. Under Secretary of State Nuland says Poland's decision to put all its Mig-29 jets at U.S. disposal was not pre-consulted with the United States

    So Poland is going to give to the U.S. military its own fighter jets for free, and, in exchange, the Polish government will purchase fighter jets from the U.S.A.?

    Sounds like a total rip-off.

    I wonder if the other NATO members states will give their own fighter jets for free?

    Vassal state.

    When have u ever seen a good USA deal? USA always offer rip off deals this is no different. Poland is wanting to receive secondhand aircraft lol!

    But it seems USA knows nothing about this deal lol!
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:58 pm

    walle83 wrote:
    I would say they are doing a very good job so far. The russian economy is in a free fall and the sanctions continues to grow. This will have severe consequences for Russia both for the people and for the Russian ability to rearm its military.

    You are believing too much propaganda.

    Yes it will hurt, or perhaps more accurately, inconvenience Russia but the current astonishing increased profits on gas/oil and minerals are probably more than paying for the excursion into Ukraine and other increased costs. Mind you Russia is currently the hero of every other oil/gas producer.

    Plus the oil and gas prices are going to hurt us in the West more than the Russians. Just watch industry gradually shut down under price pressures whilst we pay more, as consumers for food as farmers can't afford fertiliser this year.

    Sad to say, as a Westerner, that the US, intentionally or not, have activated a political and economic landmine whilst the Russians have played a blinder in response.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:01 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    When have u ever seen a good USA deal? USA always offer rip off deals this is no different. Poland is wanting to receive secondhand aircraft lol!

    But it seems USA knows nothing about this deal lol!

    Methinks more a case of Poland getting fed up with US politicians going on and on about giving their Migs and calling their bluff.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    d_taddei2 wrote:
    When have u ever seen a good USA deal? USA always offer rip off deals this is no different. Poland is wanting to receive secondhand aircraft lol!

    But it seems USA knows nothing about this deal lol!

    Methinks more a case of Poland getting fed up with US politicians going on and on about giving their Migs and calling their bluff.

    I doubt Poland will ever back talk USA. Remember what happened to the last Polish Minister who did?

    They are being serious cause they want new (used) F-16's.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:04 pm

    Updates

    1) Russia's military is moving armored vehicles and equipment to the northeast and southwest of Antonov Airport, less than a hour from downtown Kyiv.

    2) US, Allies Telling China Neutrality 'Not an Option' in Russia-Ukraine Conflict - Nuland

    3) Russia Ready to Provide Humanitarian Corridors in Ukraine From 07:00 GMT on March 9

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:06 pm

    Do the west really think threats against China is going to work? They already tried it like what, 7 times in last two days? China just came out with a statement what, yesterday? That Russia and China are closer than USSR with Warsaw pact. Pretty bold statements and shows China isn't budging yet the US and their cronies, who all have threatened China for so long, come along and make demands to them.

    Or what?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:10 pm

    RTN wrote:
    Mir wrote:Also posted on The Saker from Michael Hudson >> excellent piece
    I joined this forum in 2014 and since then I'm reading about the imminent collapse of the US. Sadly, the wishes of these forum members (quite a few of whom are Russian living in the West) have never been fulfilled.

    This asshat who wrote this idiotic article should try his luck in movies, seems to have a fertile imagination.

    From 90s I can hear form US propaganda machine about imminent bankruptcy and collapse of Russia. s Russia collapsed already so  many times how now is so important for US? and their biological weapons' programme?


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:13 pm

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗In the south of the Kharkiv region, up to 2 battalions of the 93rd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, deployed from the Dnepropetrovsk region, tried to counterattack the positions of Russian troops.

    As a result of the clash, up to 250 enemy personnel and 18 armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed.

    Looks like situation goes as predicted. VSU is probing with counterattacks along the line,

    They are gauging whether they should withdraw to Dnieper and try to reconstitute a new front line 

    That many losses is catastrophic for a counter attack

    They are getting desperate

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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:19 pm

    I am currently in East Africa and friends back home just got their gas and electricity bill estimate for April. Their bills range from going up £750-£1400 that's around $1,000-$1800 extra and the price we see for gas is going up daily. And fuel prices in UK are shooting up. My brother is looking after my car (mercedes 190e) while am here and price of fuel is £1.70/$2.23 per litre for super unleaded (need to use E5 my car its 31yrs old) and the cost is rising daily. I would imagine other commodities will rise as well sunflower oil, anything using wheat, fertilizer or aluminium.

    All complaining about costs rising while praising UK government sanctions, sending weapons and money to Ukrainian government and putting Ukrainian flags on their profile pics on FB and sending aid and money to charities for Ukraine. If their is ever an example of shooting yourself in the foot and complaining this is it.

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