Russian special military operation in Ukraine #5

d_taddei2 wrote:
The Minister of Economy is Lithuanian;
The former president of Georgia was the governor of Odessa;

DerWolf wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Flaming, situation have not change really

Russia was junior partner with west, at least China dont talk to Russia disrespectfully

China better for Russia

What impact have had the recent sanctions in the daily life of normal Russians?

flamming_python wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Not my words copied elsewhere but interesting points. I see the Ukrainian cabinet more of a comedy show


While Russian-Ukrainian war is ongoing, let's take a look at the composition of the Ukrainian government:
The core decision-making inner circle of Ukrainian President Zelensky is actually based on his circle of friends when he was an actor.
1. The Chief of Staff of the Presidential Palace, Andre Yemark, is a comedy producer;
2. The head of the Presidential Administration, Andre Bodin, is a lawyer in the entertainment industry;
3. The president's chief policy adviser, Sergey Sheffey, is a comedy writer;
4. Ivan Bakanov, deputy chairman of the Ukrainian Supreme Intelligence Service, is the boss of a comedy film company;
5. Senior adviser to the Ukrainian National Defense Committee, Sergei Sivoko, is also a comedian and is Zelensky's partner in acting.
If you just look at their resume, you can't tell whether it is a film and television company or a country's decision-making body.
Why has Ukraine completely ignored the geopolitical relations of major powers over the years? It seems that homeland security and national development have nothing to do with these politicians-because it really doesn't matter, they are basically not Ukrainians.
Because Ukraine recognizes dual nationality, 80% of senior government officials are American, and 90% of the wealth and people of the rich are in London or Switzerland.
The female health minister of Ukraine is the most typical example. She was born in the United States. Before 2013, she was an American general doctor. She went to Ukraine in 2013, naturalized in Ukraine in 2015, and was promoted to Deputy Minister of Health in 2016.  In 2019, Zelensky defied all opposition and was appointed health minister.
The three ministers appointed by Ukraine's parliament in November 2014 are all foreigners:
The Secretary of the Treasury is American;
The Minister of Health is Georgian;
The Minister of Economy is Lithuanian;
The former president of Georgia was the governor of Odessa;

Tragicomedy

While Russia plays what part. Macbeth, Hamlet?

If a settlement is not reached, the Ukraine is doomed, Russia is doomed, Europe is doomed.
It's Asia's century now. It has started 12 days ago

Even if Russia wins quick, the hate won't go away. Not in Europe, and it won't be looked upon kindly by its other neighbours. The sanctions won't be lifted either. Even if the West is also fatally wounded, it will still take down Russia with it. I think Russia is destined for decline, one way or the other.

flamming_python wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:Not my words copied elsewhere but interesting points. I see the Ukrainian cabinet more of a comedy show


While Russian-Ukrainian war is ongoing, let's take a look at the composition of the Ukrainian government:
The core decision-making inner circle of Ukrainian President Zelensky is actually based on his circle of friends when he was an actor.
1. The Chief of Staff of the Presidential Palace, Andre Yemark, is a comedy producer;
2. The head of the Presidential Administration, Andre Bodin, is a lawyer in the entertainment industry;
3. The president's chief policy adviser, Sergey Sheffey, is a comedy writer;
4. Ivan Bakanov, deputy chairman of the Ukrainian Supreme Intelligence Service, is the boss of a comedy film company;
5. Senior adviser to the Ukrainian National Defense Committee, Sergei Sivoko, is also a comedian and is Zelensky's partner in acting.
If you just look at their resume, you can't tell whether it is a film and television company or a country's decision-making body.
Why has Ukraine completely ignored the geopolitical relations of major powers over the years? It seems that homeland security and national development have nothing to do with these politicians-because it really doesn't matter, they are basically not Ukrainians.
Because Ukraine recognizes dual nationality, 80% of senior government officials are American, and 90% of the wealth and people of the rich are in London or Switzerland.
The female health minister of Ukraine is the most typical example. She was born in the United States. Before 2013, she was an American general doctor. She went to Ukraine in 2013, naturalized in Ukraine in 2015, and was promoted to Deputy Minister of Health in 2016.  In 2019, Zelensky defied all opposition and was appointed health minister.
The three ministers appointed by Ukraine's parliament in November 2014 are all foreigners:
The Secretary of the Treasury is American;
The Minister of Health is Georgian;
The Minister of Economy is Lithuanian;
The former president of Georgia was the governor of Odessa;

Tragicomedy

While Russia plays what part. Macbeth, Hamlet?

If a settlement is not reached, the Ukraine is doomed, Russia is doomed, Europe is doomed.
It's Asia's century now. It has started 12 days ago

Even if Russia wins quick, the hate won't go away. Not in Europe, and it won't be looked upon kindly by its other neighbours. The sanctions won't be lifted either. Even if the West is also fatally wounded, it will still take down Russia with it. I think Russia is destined for decline, one way or the other.

flamming_python wrote: I think Russia is destined for decline, one way or the other.

flamming_python wrote:There is something profoundly absurd about this vid

https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/40786

A slowly moving armored Z-train in Kherson oblast passing by while a couple of locals yell obscenities at it

d_taddei2 wrote:Not my words copied elsewhere but interesting points. I see the Ukrainian cabinet more of a comedy show


While Russian-Ukrainian war is ongoing, let's take a look at the composition of the Ukrainian government:
The core decision-making inner circle of Ukrainian President Zelensky is actually based on his circle of friends when he was an actor.
1. The Chief of Staff of the Presidential Palace, Andre Yemark, is a comedy producer;
2. The head of the Presidential Administration, Andre Bodin, is a lawyer in the entertainment industry;
3. The president's chief policy adviser, Sergey Sheffey, is a comedy writer;
4. Ivan Bakanov, deputy chairman of the Ukrainian Supreme Intelligence Service, is the boss of a comedy film company;
5. Senior adviser to the Ukrainian National Defense Committee, Sergei Sivoko, is also a comedian and is Zelensky's partner in acting.
If you just look at their resume, you can't tell whether it is a film and television company or a country's decision-making body.
Why has Ukraine completely ignored the geopolitical relations of major powers over the years? It seems that homeland security and national development have nothing to do with these politicians-because it really doesn't matter, they are basically not Ukrainians.
Because Ukraine recognizes dual nationality, 80% of senior government officials are American, and 90% of the wealth and people of the rich are in London or Switzerland.
The female health minister of Ukraine is the most typical example. She was born in the United States. Before 2013, she was an American general doctor. She went to Ukraine in 2013, naturalized in Ukraine in 2015, and was promoted to Deputy Minister of Health in 2016.  In 2019, Zelensky defied all opposition and was appointed health minister.
The three ministers appointed by Ukraine's parliament in November 2014 are all foreigners:
The Secretary of the Treasury is American;
The Minister of Health is Georgian;
The Minister of Economy is Lithuanian;
The former president of Georgia was the governor of Odessa;

JohninMK wrote:There are Ukrainian claims that General-major Vitaly Gerasimov, deputy commander of Russian 41st army, was killed near Kharkiv, Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate said. This is Russia’s second general KIA within the last 11 days. https://gur.gov.ua/content/pid-kh

They say they picked up the intel from intercepts. Both this General and the one last week were apparently deputies in the 41st Army.

One day we will know if this is true.

JohninMK wrote:There are Ukrainian claims that General-major Vitaly Gerasimov, deputy commander of Russian 41st army, was killed near Kharkiv, Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate said. This is Russia’s second general KIA within the last 11 days. https://gur.gov.ua/content/pid-kh

They say they picked up the intel from intercepts. Both this General and the one last week were apparently deputies in the 41st Army.

One day we will know if this is true.

miketheterrible wrote:

DerWolf wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Flaming, situation have not change really

Russia was junior partner with west, at least China dont talk to Russia disrespectfully

China better for Russia

What impact have had the recent sanctions in the daily life of normal Russians?

Besides luxury cars and shit, the real big one is actually microprocessors and gpus.

flamming_python wrote:

Tragicomedy

While Russia plays what part. Macbeth, Hamlet?

If a settlement is not reached, the Ukraine is doomed, Russia is doomed, Europe is doomed.
It's Asia's century now. It has started 12 days ago

FlamingPython wrote:
Even if Russia wins quick, the hate won't go away. Not in Europe, and it won't be looked upon kindly by its other neighbours. The sanctions won't be lifted either. Even if the West is also fatally wounded, it will still take down Russia with it. I think Russia is destined for decline, one way or the other.

Scorpius wrote:I see too much crying here about the allegedly failed military operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Gentlemen, I urge you to think very carefully before making such statements. The "heavy losses" of the Russian army at the moment are approximately 1:10 in relation to the losses of the Ukrainian army. This is despite the fact that the Russian grouping of troops on the territory of Ukraine is about half the size of the Ukrainian grouping.
To this are added: the requirements for the maximum preservation of civilian infrastructure, as well as the need to withdraw civilians from the combat zone.
I do not remember a single military operation with such tasks on such a territory and with such a number of belligerent armies.
In addition, I remind you that the operation itself lasts less than two weeks at the moment, and Ukraine has actually lost a significant part of its territories. Another couple of days, and a group of Ukrainian troops numbering more than 50,000 people will fall into the encirclement near Donetsk and Lugansk.
What I am witnessing at the moment is one of the most lightning-fast operations to defeat the enemy in history. Just do not forget that Ukraine is a part of the USSR, with all the consequences that follow from this: strategic school, training of officers, saturation of troops with armored vehicles and heavy weapons - even if they are already obsolete. And they had 8 years to prepare.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Noose is tightening ...

Big_Gazza wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:https://i.servimg.com/u/f83/20/39/25/54/screen33.jpg

Noose is tightening ...

All I see is two Ukropi testicles being squeezed relentlessly until they finally rupture.  I imagine that such will not be a pleasant experience to the owners of said gonads...  

d_taddei2 wrote:
i have no doubts that russian army is very poorly trained for modern wars..  look the catastrophic performance of russian military in armenian conflict recently.those drones wiped very easily russian tors and buks and s-300s.. no problem for those israeli and turkish drones ,  not even the russian army hellicopters could fly safely inside armenian airspace. incompetence.   [/u]