Russian special military operation in Ukraine #4

Odin of Ossetia wrote:


Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Battalion "Azov" Murdering Civilians Attempting to Leave the City of Mariupol.


They want the civilians to remain to be used as human shields.

The murdered civilians might possibly be ethnic Greeks.


https://twitter.com/takalous/status/1499436748316844032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



Warning about the graphic nature of the content.

One more very graphic video of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the same unit:

https://streamable.com/gwquhg



Is Greece doing anything on the matter of the ethnic Greeks and others being murdered by these neo-Nazis and also being used as human shields in the city of Mariupol?

mack8 wrote:Again, don't fall for the propaganda. Me i am certain of the loss (based on bort number and/or wreck) of one Mi-8, one Mi-35, one Su-34, one Su-30SM. Bad, but not as bad as they try to make it look.
They are trying to add the aircraft lost yesterday (i have posted about that yesterday i think), to make it worse than it is.
Don't believe everything Oryx says, he has an anti-russian agenda, and he's some kind of TB2 propagandist (maybe he's getting cash from the turks to spew his propaganda crap).

And this are planes that are supposed to have electronic warfare  ,president S ?

is there is a good thing in all this , is that now putin knows ,they need to change their airforce tactics
when fighting in europe , because their planes are taken down like there is no tomorrow and apparently hit by stinger missiles ,because the russian military told they took down ukraine air defenses and had complete "air superiority.".    now is clear it was all a lie . they are losing planes that generally were designed to evade/jam missiles as it is su-34 and su-30sm..

hopefully by this time the russian army realize they need major change of tactics and need significantly more drones.  i don't think the russian army will have advanced much if the invasion was in today israel.. their Russian soldiers will have been obliterated by attack drones and kamikazi drones.. and the israel airforce teach russia in syria ,how hit with precision the intended target right next to russian base and run away evading russian best air defenses..  

im afraid that if russian airforce continue losing 3-5 planes per day ,they will be without an airforce in just 2 months of combat. and probably give up in just 2 weeks once their numbers of planes loses are in the 50s. This is very bad for russia image in the world.. all western media is making fun of ukranians are pushing back the russian army and causing so much damages to their airforce and convoys.

What im now thinking is that any victory of russia in ukraine will end being a disastrous one , with too much loses in expensive planes and equipment and too many russians killed. 500 soldiers in 1 week.. at this rate , in one year , russia will lose more than 25,000 soldiers..
and in 3 years 75,000. if it last as much as the afghan war..in 10 years, then 250,000 deaths.

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:


Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Battalion "Azov" Murdering Civilians Attempting to Leave the City of Mariupol.


They want the civilians to remain to be used as human shields.

The murdered civilians might possibly be ethnic Greeks.


https://twitter.com/takalous/status/1499436748316844032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



Warning about the graphic nature of the content.

One more very graphic video of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis from the same unit:

https://streamable.com/gwquhg



Is Greece doing anything on the matter of the ethnic Greeks and others being murdered by these neo-Nazis and also being used as human shields in the city of Mariupol?

This old fake and before the war, 2016 if I recall. It was created as psyop. I have no doubts they have horrible crimes, but this is fake and not made by gov, but by some edgy idiots

I have a question regarding the recent discussions and Zelenksies wish for a no-fly zone. What exactly does this imply for this conflict and why would Russia care about it at all? Who would be enforcing this "no fly zone" NATO?

Yes he is screaming for NATO to enforce a no-fly zone. If they do it's war between NATO and Russia. NATO don't want any direct war with Russia - so no it's highly unlikely.

Werewolf wrote:I have a question regarding the recent discussions and Zelenksies wish for a no-fly zone. What exactly does this imply for this conflict and why would Russia care about it at all? Who would be enforcing this "no fly zone" NATO?

If nato wants no fly zone they need to send nato fighters to patrol over Ukraine. So it would be a matter of time when russian and nato aircraft would be in a dogfight. It would be a total waar.

ArgentinaGuard wrote:
A few years before Desert Storm
Look at the casualties that the British (and NATO) had in the Malvinas War.
40 planes, 9 warships (the best of the world), 300 dead, 200 prisoners of war (although they are estimated at more than 1,000 according to secret Argentine intelligence reports).
Argentina, without anything or military equipment, without air supremacy or aircraft carriers, had the same casualties.
Ukraine was better prepared than us.

Argentina had the aircraft carrier "25 de Mayo". That she even carried out some operations before taking refuge in safe waters, after the sinking of the Cruiser "General Belgrano."

Pentagon Funded Bio-Weapons Labs in the Ukraine.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/pentagon-funded-bio-weapons-labs-in-the-ukraine/

Vann7 wrote:

Pentagon Funded Bio-Weapons Labs in the Ukraine.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/pentagon-funded-bio-weapons-labs-in-the-ukraine/

I hope Russia bombs them. Those labs are big treath for Russia.

Mir wrote:Yes he is screaming for NATO to enforce a no-fly zone. If they do it's war between NATO and Russia. NATO don't want any direct war with Russia - so no it's highly unlikely.

It's also embarassing for the US. They cried for years they will protect Taiwan against China but are facing the reality of not being able to protect Unraine for which they promised same 'freedom".

Now the more Zelensky ask for a NATO intervention the more US weakness is exposed and the more China will be assured it can take Taiwan.

If they take Taiwan, China will lead in electronics production.

Thats alot.

Orlan wrote:

Thats alot.

Thats too much if you ask me....for few days of war

Mir wrote:Yes he is screaming for NATO to enforce a no-fly zone. If they do it's war between NATO and Russia. NATO don't want any direct war with Russia - so no it's highly unlikely.

Yugo90 wrote:If nato wants no fly zone they need to send nato fighters to patrol over Ukraine. So it would be a matter of time when russian and nato aircraft would be in a dogfight. It would be a total waar.

Then I understood correctly, thanks guys.

Yugo90 wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

Pentagon Funded Bio-Weapons Labs in the Ukraine.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/pentagon-funded-bio-weapons-labs-in-the-ukraine/

I hope Russia bombs them. Those labs are big treath for Russia.

According to earlier info already did. With Iskanders in initial phase of operation.

Notable was also the operation in Kazakhstan earlier this year. Some biolabs there too. It was never confirmed but some circles discussed that those were eliminated. Tsargrad-guys talked about eye witnesses of people in hazmat suits carrying stuff out from Alma-Ata lab during the CSTO deployment.

But those are definitely classified ops, so IF something really happened regarding the labs we will never know for sure.

Again those numbers are heavily skewed. You can bet your boots the ukrs have received orders not show any of their losses. So what we see from their side is only what has been pictured by russian soldiers. As to the real russian losses, i have no doubts that all kinds of dirty tactics are used to inflate russian losses, i'm sure some may be counted more than once, or some even show ukrs losses.

Russian MOD figures are a much better indication of true ukrs losses, in is true that like in any war there is always overestimation of opponents losses, nonethless, even if you HALVE RuMOD claims, it's still very substantial losses suffered by ukrs.

Arkanghelsk wrote:It's also not true, MOD has already categorized the losses of Ukrainian equipment

Ukraine has already lost close to 40% of territory

So I doubt those numbers highly here are real numbers:

Apart from that, the Russian military has shot down 59 Ukrainian drones, destroyed 748 tanks and other armoured vehicles, 76 multiple launch rocket systems, and 274 units of artillery since the start of the operation, Konashenkov revealed.


A significant part of the Ukrainian Air Force was destroyed during the first days of Russia’s special operation, which was launched on 24 February by President Vladimir Putin. 69 jets were destroyed on the ground in airstrikes on military airfields, the Defence Ministry said. Another 21 jets were shot down in the air, the ministry noted.

I don't know man, both sides always in war inflate enemy loses, has always been, but this what for we have photos. And it doesn't look good.

Seems two Tockas were shot down over Belgorod. Ukrainians tried to strike Russian convoy, rumons are USAF provided intelligence and coordinates.

Orlan is posting cheap Ukr fakery. According to Ukr propaganda they are fighting 90% of the Russian army.

kvs wrote:Orlan is posting cheap Ukr fakery.   According to Ukr propaganda they are fighting 90% of the Russian army.

I don't know what they claim to be fighting, but 107 tanks they surely did fight.

Unlike some this guy at least gathers photo-video sources.

Orlan wrote:

Thats alot.

It's also clear bullshit

The Ukrainians had like 150 vehicles captured in the past day alone

Orlan wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:It's also not true, MOD has already categorized the losses of Ukrainian equipment

Ukraine has already lost close to 40% of territory

So I doubt those numbers highly here are real numbers:

Apart from that, the Russian military has shot down 59 Ukrainian drones, destroyed 748 tanks and other armoured vehicles, 76 multiple launch rocket systems, and 274 units of artillery since the start of the operation, Konashenkov revealed.


A significant part of the Ukrainian Air Force was destroyed during the first days of Russia’s special operation, which was launched on 24 February by President Vladimir Putin. 69 jets were destroyed on the ground in airstrikes on military airfields, the Defence Ministry said. Another 21 jets were shot down in the air, the ministry noted.

I don't know man, both sides always in war inflate enemy loses, has always been, but this what for we have photos. And it doesn't look good.

I haven't seen that many knocked out Russian vehicles. A few dozen, and many of them were clearly abandoned.

A few downed helicopters and planes as well.

The Ukrs are also active in image editing of photos, adding 'Z' signs, and passing off their own destroyed columns for Russian ones. All sorts of nonsense

Obviously there are quite significant Russian loses

But lose your head. If Russia has had 700-800 killed so far, then how could it possibly have that many vehicles destroyed?

That would make sense only if the Ukrainian claims of 9000 Russian killed are true.

flamming_python wrote:

Orlan wrote:

Thats alot.

It's also clear bullshit

The Ukrainians had like 150 vehicles captured in the past day alone

150? Where? Kherson base had like 6 BRDMs, 2 BTRs I saw 1 tank in video, even tho I think they say there were 5 or something, and few trucks, if you meant that.

Kherson base looked like good ammunition stock tho, but not many useful vehicles there.

Orlan wrote:

Thats alot.

It's interesting that KlausSausageGobbler's posts have dramatically decreased, and your similar sounding posts have dramatically increased recently. BTW you earlier post of the row of 'Moscal' Tunguska's being destroyed was proven to be a complete FRAUD...just give it up already tryhard!