MiG-29K: News and info

How many MiG-29K will be stationed on Kuznetsov carrier? Will they also keep some Su-33 on carrier for bigger missiles like Club? MiG-29K is good multirole fighter, but for fleet defense some Su-33 could be still usefull.

medo wrote:How many MiG-29K will be stationed on Kuznetsov carrier? Will they also keep some Su-33 on carrier for bigger missiles like Club? MiG-29K is good multirole fighter, but for fleet defense some Su-33 could be still usefull.

No, SU-33s will return to land bases, i dont know how many Migs will be stationed on a cruise.
I think they won't station all 24 mig-29s on the K, probably just a squadron ( 12 ) ( ten single-seat and two tandem seat ) .

Altough the Russian navy has some older Mig-29ks so maybe they will station them all    

The Russian navy has zero old MiG-29Ks.

The only prototypes are owned by MiG.

What missile are you Talking About? Very Happy

Because the mig-29k2s have already flown with r-77 or do you mean that other missile?

With land based Su-24 and Tu-22M3 and Il-38 aircraft and sea based Su-33 which is pretty much just an Su-27UB with canards there was very little demand for R-77 or Kh-31 or Kh-35 or other weapons.

Now that they are adopting MiG-29K2s and land based Su-30Ms then newer more sophisticated weapons are worth buying.

How many MiG-29K will be stationed on Kuznetsov carrier? Will they also keep some Su-33 on carrier for bigger missiles like Club? MiG-29K is good multirole fighter, but for fleet defense some Su-33 could be still usefull.

Actually without modification the Su-33 is comparable to an old model Su-27UB so the performance of the MiG-29K2 would be superior in all areas except max range and flight endurance.

The Russian navy has zero old MiG-29Ks.

The only prototypes are owned by MiG.

The Russian Navy has already had MiG-29K2s delivered and Su-30Ms delivered so in all likelyhood have already likely placed orders for new weapons at least for testing.

MIG likely trained a bit, but now they have their own and the training facilities in the Crimea they will be spoiled for choice.

What is the current status of those delivered MiG-29Ks...have they had any deck landing and takeoffs...?

How many more to be delivered by end-2015?

Dima wrote:What is the current status of those delivered MiG-29Ks...have they had any deck landing and takeoffs...?

How many more to be delivered by end-2015?

MiG-29K/KUB deliveries are 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015, so at the end of 2015, Ru Navy will have all 24 MiGs from contract. There are rumors, they will order more MiG-29K/KUB planes.

medo wrote:

Dima wrote:What is the current status of those delivered MiG-29Ks...have they had any deck landing and takeoffs...?

How many more to be delivered by end-2015?

MiG-29K/KUB deliveries are 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015, so at the end of 2015, Ru Navy will have all 24 MiGs from contract. There are rumors, they will order more MiG-29K/KUB planes.

If they order more i think it is sure that the K will carry atleast 24 migs on a deployment, as they are going to enlarge the hangar of the K aswell!!

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Cao Dongwei, senior colonel and researcher at the People's Liberation Army Naval Research Institute, said the aircraft carrier could gain the upper hand in any potential battle for air or sea supremacy. The lineup may differ for various missions, however. The full lineup of 36 aircraft shows that the "PLA Navy's era of aircraft" has arrived, the report said.


Lineup of 36 aircraft on China's Liaoning carrier revealed

Staff Reporter
2014-08-28
15:23 (GMT+

Liaoning, can carry four Z-18J airborne early warning (AEW) helicopters, six Z-18F anti-submarine helicopters, two Z-9C rescue helicopters, and 24 J-15 shipborne fighter jets, the Chinese-language Shanghai Morning Post reported on Aug. 28.

Cao Dongwei, senior colonel and researcher at the People's Liberation Army Naval Research Institute, said the aircraft carrier could gain the upper hand in any potential battle for air or sea supremacy. The lineup may differ for various missions, however. The full lineup of 36 aircraft shows that the "PLA Navy's era of aircraft" has arrived, the report said.

On the tail of the Z-18F helicopter is the image of a sea eagle sprawling its talons, which suggests that the aircraft's mission is to seek out and attack enemy submarines, according to the paper. Cao said it is common practice to mark aircraft with physically tough and fierce animals to "show the spirit of bravery of the pilot and the craft itself."

The helicopter has a shipborne sea search radar that enables 360-degree detection and is equipped with dipping sonar and the report speculated that it can carry 32 sonobuoys.

China is faced with a grave threat from the US, which owns the most advanced nuclear submarines, as well as Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force, the report said. Countries operating in the South China Sea, particularly those engaged in territorial disputes with China, have also been strengthening their naval forces, putting pressure on China, said the report.

The Z-9C helicopter's ZLC-1 radar can detect up to a range of 150 meters, while the Z-18F helicopter is equipped with four 7K anti-submarine torpedoes and four YJ-91 missiles.

"In offshore combat, we are mainly faced with challenges to defensive military operations," said Cao. "We need to power up anti-submarine capability to prevent offshore detection from potential opponents and to prevent a mine blockade."

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24 j-15s

Russia couldn't fit 24 su-33s in the k.
But if it is true they maybe enlarged the hangar bay?
If they didn't, 24 migs would be no problem on the K!

As I know Kuznetsov carrier was designed to carry 40 to 50 planes and helicopters. I think there is no problem to carry 24 MiG-29K/KUB planes on Kuznetsov. If there will be a problem with space, they could take less helicopters. After all, Kuznetsov usually take 12 to 13 Su-33 and 2 Su-25UTG planes and 17 Ka-27 helicopters, what is 32 planes and helicopters and I think Russian navy didn't use all carrier capabilities and use half of Su-33 fleet for rotation for less carrier operation hours and to less expose to sea salt.

China will have 24 J-15 fighters and 12 helicopters, this is 36 planes and helicopters together. I think Indian Vikramaditya have similar number of planes and helicopters.

Don't know if it is his entire hangar.

Lot of su-33s.

Any picture, that Chinese carrier have its air wing on board? For now we see only prototypes and testings.

Yes only prototypes so far.

medo wrote:

What load-out?

Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.

medo wrote:Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.

Yes, indeed!

Finally. MiG-29K is in new RuNAVY colors.

Another MiG-29KUB.

ugly camo
I like the camo of the one you posted on Sun Oct 26 very much!

Some delivery just took place

Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  

Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

So now they could form the first carrier Mig-29K squadron. I think we will need to wait for some time to see them on the carrier.

Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  

Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

do we know how many?

George1 wrote:

Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  

Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

do we know how many?

As I know, RuNAVY receive 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015. They will most probably train pilots on MiGs next year in Eysk NITKA center and in 2016 place them on carrier. Anyway, Su-33 will be soon ground based fighter.