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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:34 am

    this video shows at 8.45 MiG-29K in Kuznetsov AC. Can anyone confirm this?


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:25 pm

    Navy this year will receive 10 carrier-based fighters MiG-29K/KUB

    http://flot.com/2015/188221/

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  flamming_python on Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:45 pm

    That carrier-air wing (279th KIAP) was based at an airbase about 3km from where I served in 2010-2011.

    They used to fly around with their Su-33s every second day around the vicinity of our own base.
    One day, one of them overflew me at an altitude of about 30m, when I was out back behind the HQ building cleaning some snow. Don't know why they bothered with me, but it was pretty cool seeing a Su-33 so bloody close up - and not in the form of a static one on the tarmac either.
    Of course if this was war and that Su-33 was my enemy; I would be dead - it was going fast and low enough to not make any noise in advance of its approach and I literarly only noticed it when it was directly above my head, quite unexpected you can imagine.

    Anyway, why am I telling you this.
    Oh yeah.
    They were training with Su-33s all throughout the winter of 2010/2011, but then in the summer of 2011 I noticed a curious sight - a MiG-29 flying around, in what seemed to be the colours of one of the Russian aerobatics teams no less.
    So it's fair to assume that this particular air regiment has been training with the MiG-29 for at least 4.5 years by now. If they're switiching to them now then they're well prepared and the change will take place quickly. Or perhaps they switched to them earlier already.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  mack8 on Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:54 pm

    Must be part of this year's lot:

    http://russianplanes.net/id159776

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    Post  medo on Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:06 pm

    mack8 wrote:Must be part of this year's lot:

    http://russianplanes.net/id159776

    I think this one is for India. it doesn't have Pastel RWR as Russian MiG-29K have.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  George1 on Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:23 am

    Filmed in the exposition of the International Military-Technical Forum "Army 2015" in Kubinka near Moscow is one of the new naval MiG-29K (hull number "39 blue"), built for the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in 2014 under a contract from February 2012 the supply of 20 MiG-29K and four MiG-29KUB.



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    Post  George1 on Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:59 pm

    Russian Navy to Get Over 20 Ship-Borne Fighter Jets by Year-End

    The aviation branch of the Russian Navy will get more than 20 new ship-borne MiG-29K fighters by the end of 2015, the Defense Ministry’s press service said.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The warplanes will serve as a backbone for a new aviation unit within the Northern Feet.

    "To boost the Navy’s aviation component, the work is underway to equip the Navy Aviation [branch] with MiG-29K. This work began in 2013 and will be finalized in 2015," the press service said in a statement, adding the Navy will get more than 20 MiGs.

    Russia has been stepping up its presence in the Arctic since late 2014 when it revised its military doctrine to declare the region an area of its interest.

    The Arctic is believed to have vast untapped reserves of oil and gas. The five Arctic Circle countries, comprising the United States, Russia, Canada, Norway, and Denmark, are particularly interested in exploring them.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150726/1025051726.html#ixzz3gwVl3dvB


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Militarov on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:01 am

    GarryB wrote:The question is... when the Su-33s are grounded, will they put MiGs on board or will they take this opportunity to put the K into dry dock for that big upgrade it was supposed to be getting.

    I suspect it all depends on the status of all the new things they want to fit... and the changes they want to make.

    testing the new nuclear propulsion plants for new heavy ships and carriers would be useful, but if they are not ready then it might spend some more time at sea...

    they will likely wait for the naval Koalition gun system to be ready or perhaps a 203mm calibre version of it.... Twisted Evil   and of course having S-500 ready to go would also make things faster...

    I have seen some reports in Russian sources that they are planning to form two air wings for Kuznetsov atm one new with Mig29K and one that will consits from overhauled SU33s and SU25UTG and will serve as secondary air wing, i am guessing this is sign they are serious about new carrier and that they want to have more deck capable pilots available.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  mack8 on Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:00 pm

    Today two MiG-29Ks  flew from Luhovits to Yeisk:
    http://mil-avia.livejournal.com/117006.html

    This could be one of them:

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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:40 pm

    Militarov wrote:i am guessing this is sign they are serious about new carrier and that they want to have more deck capable pilots available.

    The "new" carrier will be the post-mid-life refit Admiral Kuznetsov.

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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:52 am

    new 2 delivered?


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Dima on Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:46 am

    Mods, this is a MiG-29K related thread but lots of post related to carrier and shipyards. If possible shift all those post in last few pages to the related/appropriate thread preferably to the Shipyard/infrastructure related thread.

    Also, please edit Mig-29K to MiG-29K, its really irritating to see it mostly written as Mig.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  mack8 on Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:51 pm

    MiG-29K at Eisk:
    http://codename-it.livejournal.com/1961276.html

    KUB Bort 50 at Akhtubinsk:


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  flamming_python on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:27 pm

    artjomh wrote:
    Dima wrote:Can you name one Russian shipyard which was/is in good shape?

    Sevmash? Admiralty? Yantar? Zelenodolsk? Pella?

    Would you like to expand your thoughts on why the possibility of building a carrier at Zaliv is a good joke?

    Zaliv has lost A LOT of manpower, they don't have enough qualified workers for a lot of jobs and everyone else is working half-shifts doing minor jobs. Their cutting and pressing equipment is also in a poor state.

    Right now they "on paper" have two orders to build fleet oilers (Project 23131) for the Russian Navy, but in reality they are not building anything, just trying to fix up some of the current mess.

    PS: Is anyone else getting a feeling that none of this has anything to do with Mig-29K? Maybe the mods should strip out a "Russian maritime industry and engineering" thread, or something.

    BTW, in related news, do you know what will happen to the Crimea's carrier training facilities - now that the ones in Yejsk have been finished?
    Actually they were finished before the Crimea was annexed - but then the Crimea was annexed and it turns out that Russia could in theory keep using the old ones after all.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Militarov on Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:36 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    artjomh wrote:
    Dima wrote:Can you name one Russian shipyard which was/is in good shape?

    Sevmash? Admiralty? Yantar? Zelenodolsk? Pella?

    Would you like to expand your thoughts on why the possibility of building a carrier at Zaliv is a good joke?

    Zaliv has lost A LOT of manpower, they don't have enough qualified workers for a lot of jobs and everyone else is working half-shifts doing minor jobs. Their cutting and pressing equipment is also in a poor state.

    Right now they "on paper" have two orders to build fleet oilers (Project 23131) for the Russian Navy, but in reality they are not building anything, just trying to fix up some of the current mess.

    PS: Is anyone else getting a feeling that none of this has anything to do with Mig-29K? Maybe the mods should strip out a "Russian maritime industry and engineering" thread, or something.

    BTW, in related news, do you know what will happen to the Crimea's carrier training facilities - now that the ones in Yejsk have been finished?
    Actually they were finished before the Crimea was annexed - but then the Crimea was annexed and it turns out that Russia could in theory keep using the old ones after all.

    "Independent aviation expert Vladimir Karnozov believes the Crimean NITKA has aged, and its future exploitation and renovation is inexpedient due to the fact that a modern NITKA in Yeysk has come into being. The new simulator will have training grounds for helicopters added in the coming years. Karnozov told RIR that the Crimean simulator can be used by MiG-29 pilots as a springboard for overclocking. That is, it is a partial imitation of a take-off from deck. Today, the entire technological base of the Crimean NITKA, including the brake machine, needs to be reconstructed.

    Aviation systems experts also take note of the prospect for the introduction of full flight simulators to the mobility system as an important addition to real training flights. Vadim Smirnov, the Director of the Transas Aviation Group told RIR that full flight simulators on the mobility system allow for the realistic modelling of very diverse situations, including adverse weather conditions. In addition, a full flight simulator can be located in any convenient place free of dependence on the area where real training is held. At the same time, the simulator ensures the cost-effectiveness of the preparation process at a significantly higher level of security for the educational process.

    Another well-known expert in the engineering of seafaring ships, Yuri Vedernikov, thinks that electronic simulators can be a compliment to, but will never replace a real simulator. “There is no doubt that it is completely possible to develop the fundamental airplane piloting skills in an 'electric training cabinet,'” he said. “However, the development of the basic skills needed for take-off and landing in a limited space and the take-off and landing coordination of aircraft groups require training in real life. The preparation of reserve carrier-based aviation pilots requires significant lead time.” Experts believe that the Crimean simulator can be opened as a training centre and pilots of carrier-based aircraft from China and India could be trained there. Despite the fact that they have created their own NITKA analogs, the number of aircraft carriers that Russia's allies have is growing. China has started building its second aircraft carrier, as has India, and these countries may need additional training areas."

    Source: http://in.rbth.com/economics/2014/09/11/questions_rise_over_future_of_crimeas_nitka_complex_38225

    However from what i have noticed Russians still do use NITKA occasionally, latest report from just few months ago: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150713/1024556601.html

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:05 pm

    Considering, that Yeysk will be naval flight school and training center, RuNAVY should order 12 MiG-29KUB, which will be stationed in Yeysk for new and operational carrier pilots trainings. Having also a training squadron of Su-30SM for ground based naval pilots trainings, they could as well train their air combat. NITKA in Crimea should be used as reserve training center for operational squadrons, when Yeysk will be busy with other trainings.

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    Post  Militarov on Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:22 pm

    medo wrote:Considering, that Yeysk will be naval flight school and training center, RuNAVY should order 12 MiG-29KUB, which will be stationed in Yeysk for new and operational carrier pilots trainings. Having also a training squadron of Su-30SM for ground based naval pilots trainings, they could as well train their air combat. NITKA in Crimea should be used as reserve training center for operational squadrons, when Yeysk will be busy with other trainings.

    Well considering fact its for training only they can just make navalised version of Yak130 for training on NITKA. Its far more convinient, and cheaper, also you are saving resources on actual carrier airwing. Somewhat like US does with their T45s. Even more suitable for this would be SU25s but since they are out of production....Yak 130 it is.


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    Post  franco on Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:58 pm

    Naval Aviation starts training at Yeisk on the Mig-29K, 14 on site and final 10 to be delivered this year. Should go operational next year.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1495069.html

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:40 am

    Those wanting to continue the discussion about shipyards and new carriers can look here:

    http://www.russiadefence.net/t2100p45-united-shipbuilding-corporation-news

    About 4 pages in will have the stuff from this thread.

    Before posting anything else to this thread please make sure it is directly related to the MiG-29K


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Rmf on Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:16 pm

    how much less footprint does mig-29k have over su-33? kuznetsov could carry 14 su-33 or 20 mig-29k.
    chinese lianonig without granits can carry 26 su-33 - that means 36 mig-29?

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    Post  artjomh on Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:36 pm

    Rmf wrote:how much less footprint does mig-29k have over su-33? kuznetsov could carry 14 su-33 or 20 mig-29k.
    chinese lianonig without granits can carry 26 su-33  -  that means 36 mig-29?

    Kuznetsov aircraft wing is not limited by space, but rather by the number of available aircraft. There is A LOT more space for more Su-33 in there.

    However, to answer your question... Mig-29K is similar in size to F/A-18E/F. Slightly smaller. Shorter length (17.3 m vs 18.3), and smaller folded wingspan (7.8 m vs 9.3 m). Su-33 is 21.2 m by 7.4 m in dimension.

    For perspective:


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    Post  Rmf on Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:52 am

    well not quite, i still dont know how max su-33 or mig-29 kuznetsov can take. but su-33 sure does fold allot, its less width then mig-29 in hangar. only longer. 22x7,4 vs 17,3x7,8.
    does su-33 outer folding wing have fuel tanks?

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    Post  mack8 on Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:15 pm

    Something heard in the past, Korotkov hopes for a new MiG-29K/KUB order for VMF:
    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3207

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    Post  medo on Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:26 pm

    mack8 wrote:Something heard in the past, Korotkov hopes for a new MiG-29K/KUB order for VMF:
    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3207

    This would be logical. NAVY should order 12 MiG-29KUB for Yeysk training center, where they could train naval and carrier pilots all time without the need for the planes from operational units, that they could have a constant flow of new young pilots. Than they should order another regiment of 24 MiG-29K/KUB for rotation on the carrier. Su-33 could now serve from ground air base.

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