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    MiG-29K: News and info

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:41 am

    medo wrote:
    Dima wrote:What is the current status of those delivered MiG-29Ks...have they had any deck landing and takeoffs...?

    How many more to be delivered by end-2015?

    MiG-29K/KUB deliveries are 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015, so at the end of 2015, Ru Navy will have all 24 MiGs from contract. There are rumors, they will order more MiG-29K/KUB planes.

    If they order more i think it is sure that the K will carry atleast 24 migs on a deployment, as they are going to enlarge the hangar of the K aswell!!
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:48 am

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    Cao Dongwei, senior colonel and researcher at the People's Liberation Army Naval Research Institute, said the aircraft carrier could gain the upper hand in any potential battle for air or sea supremacy. The lineup may differ for various missions, however. The full lineup of 36 aircraft shows that the "PLA Navy's era of aircraft" has arrived, the report said.


    Lineup of 36 aircraft on China's Liaoning carrier revealed

    Staff Reporter
    2014-08-28
    15:23 (GMT+Cool

    Liaoning, can carry four Z-18J airborne early warning (AEW) helicopters, six Z-18F anti-submarine helicopters, two Z-9C rescue helicopters, and 24 J-15 shipborne fighter jets, the Chinese-language Shanghai Morning Post reported on Aug. 28.

    Cao Dongwei, senior colonel and researcher at the People's Liberation Army Naval Research Institute, said the aircraft carrier could gain the upper hand in any potential battle for air or sea supremacy. The lineup may differ for various missions, however. The full lineup of 36 aircraft shows that the "PLA Navy's era of aircraft" has arrived, the report said.

    On the tail of the Z-18F helicopter is the image of a sea eagle sprawling its talons, which suggests that the aircraft's mission is to seek out and attack enemy submarines, according to the paper. Cao said it is common practice to mark aircraft with physically tough and fierce animals to "show the spirit of bravery of the pilot and the craft itself."

    The helicopter has a shipborne sea search radar that enables 360-degree detection and is equipped with dipping sonar and the report speculated that it can carry 32 sonobuoys.

    China is faced with a grave threat from the US, which owns the most advanced nuclear submarines, as well as Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Force, the report said. Countries operating in the South China Sea, particularly those engaged in territorial disputes with China, have also been strengthening their naval forces, putting pressure on China, said the report.

    The Z-9C helicopter's ZLC-1 radar can detect up to a range of 150 meters, while the Z-18F helicopter is equipped with four 7K anti-submarine torpedoes and four YJ-91 missiles.

    "In offshore combat, we are mainly faced with challenges to defensive military operations," said Cao. "We need to power up anti-submarine capability to prevent offshore detection from potential opponents and to prevent a mine blockade."

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    24 j-15s Shocked

    Russia couldn't fit 24 su-33s in the k.
    But if it is true they maybe enlarged the hangar bay?
    If they didn't, 24 migs would be no problem on the K!
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:39 pm

    As I know Kuznetsov carrier was designed to carry 40 to 50 planes and helicopters. I think there is no problem to carry 24 MiG-29K/KUB planes on Kuznetsov. If there will be a problem with space, they could take less helicopters. After all, Kuznetsov usually take 12 to 13 Su-33 and 2 Su-25UTG planes and 17 Ka-27 helicopters, what is 32 planes and helicopters and I think Russian navy didn't use all carrier capabilities and use half of Su-33 fleet for rotation for less carrier operation hours and to less expose to sea salt.

    China will have 24 J-15 fighters and 12 helicopters, this is 36 planes and helicopters together. I think Indian Vikramaditya have similar number of planes and helicopters.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:56 pm



    Don't know if it is his entire hangar.

    Lot of su-33s.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:17 pm

    Any picture, that Chinese carrier have its air wing on board? For now we see only prototypes and testings.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:00 pm

    Yes only prototypes so far.





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    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:29 pm

    Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.
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    Post  TR1 on Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:34 pm

    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:37 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    KUB almost for sure!
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:41 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sat Aug 30, 2014 10:58 am

    medo wrote:
    TR1 wrote:
    medo wrote:Anyone know, if Yak-130 for Navy will be equipped with arrester hook, or they will continue to use Su-25UTG for carrier operation trainings.

    I think they just intend to use MiG-29KUB. UTG is almost dead, and Yak-130s are for land base use.

    MiG-29KUB will be on carrier. Yak-130 will be on naval ground training center (Crimea or in Russia), where they have ski jump and arrester wires for trainings of new pilots, before they will go to carrier. maybe they will order more MiG-29KUB for training center for this task.

    i tried to search it but there is no yak-130 with a tail hook so they probably won't be used for both.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:41 pm

    Yeah, that is what I thought as well, but I could be wrong..


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    Post  medo on Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:25 pm

    http://www.yak.ru/ENG/PROD/new_130m.php

    Interesting is, that Yakovlev show carrier trainer as one of Yak-130 versions. This one is the simplest modification. they only have to add the hook, strenghten the landing gear and add instruments for maritime navigation.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Mike E on Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:02 pm

    Huh, but you are right, the modification would be quick and easy.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:21 pm

    medo wrote:

    What load-out?
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:29 pm

    Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:21 pm

    medo wrote:Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.

    Yes, indeed!
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:04 pm



    Finally. MiG-29K is in new RuNAVY colors. thumbsup
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:06 pm



    Another MiG-29KUB.
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:06 pm

    ugly camo Neutral
    I like the camo of the one you posted on Sun Oct 26 very much!
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:37 pm

    Some delivery just took place thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  medo on Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:14 pm

    Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

    So now they could form the first carrier Mig-29K squadron. I think we will need to wait for some time to see them on the carrier.

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