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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:21 pm

    medo wrote:

    What load-out?
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    Post  medo on Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:29 pm

    Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:21 pm

    medo wrote:Looks like Kh-35 and R-73 missiles.

    Yes, indeed!
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    Post  medo on Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:04 pm



    Finally. MiG-29K is in new RuNAVY colors. thumbsup
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    Post  medo on Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:00 am

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    Post  medo on Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:06 pm



    Another MiG-29KUB.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:06 pm

    ugly camo Neutral
    I like the camo of the one you posted on Sun Oct 26 very much!
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    Post  Viktor on Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:37 pm

    Some delivery just took place thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB
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    Post  medo on Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:14 pm

    Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

    So now they could form the first carrier Mig-29K squadron. I think we will need to wait for some time to see them on the carrier.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:35 pm

    Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

    do we know how many?
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    Post  medo on Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:48 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:Some delivery just took place  thumbsup

    Russian Defense Ministry received a shipment naval MiG-29K / KUB

    do we know how many?

    As I know, RuNAVY receive 4 in 2013, 10 in 2014 and 10 in 2015. They will most probably train pilots on MiGs next year in Eysk NITKA center and in 2016 place them on carrier. Anyway, Su-33 will be soon ground based fighter.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Dec 04, 2014 4:35 am

    The question is... when the Su-33s are grounded, will they put MiGs on board or will they take this opportunity to put the K into dry dock for that big upgrade it was supposed to be getting.

    I suspect it all depends on the status of all the new things they want to fit... and the changes they want to make.

    testing the new nuclear propulsion plants for new heavy ships and carriers would be useful, but if they are not ready then it might spend some more time at sea...

    they will likely wait for the naval Koalition gun system to be ready or perhaps a 203mm calibre version of it.... Twisted Evil and of course having S-500 ready to go would also make things faster...


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    Post  George1 on Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:34 am

    this video shows at 8.45 MiG-29K in Kuznetsov AC. Can anyone confirm this?

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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:25 pm

    Navy this year will receive 10 carrier-based fighters MiG-29K/KUB

    http://flot.com/2015/188221/
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:45 pm

    That carrier-air wing (279th KIAP) was based at an airbase about 3km from where I served in 2010-2011.

    They used to fly around with their Su-33s every second day around the vicinity of our own base.
    One day, one of them overflew me at an altitude of about 30m, when I was out back behind the HQ building cleaning some snow. Don't know why they bothered with me, but it was pretty cool seeing a Su-33 so bloody close up - and not in the form of a static one on the tarmac either.
    Of course if this was war and that Su-33 was my enemy; I would be dead - it was going fast and low enough to not make any noise in advance of its approach and I literarly only noticed it when it was directly above my head, quite unexpected you can imagine.

    Anyway, why am I telling you this.
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    They were training with Su-33s all throughout the winter of 2010/2011, but then in the summer of 2011 I noticed a curious sight - a MiG-29 flying around, in what seemed to be the colours of one of the Russian aerobatics teams no less.
    So it's fair to assume that this particular air regiment has been training with the MiG-29 for at least 4.5 years by now. If they're switiching to them now then they're well prepared and the change will take place quickly. Or perhaps they switched to them earlier already.

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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  chicken on Tue Mar 24, 2015 5:14 am



    If a Mig-35 can carry Kalibr can a Mig-29K also carry it?
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:55 am

    chicken wrote:

    If a Mig-35 can carry Kalibr can a Mig-29K also carry it?

    I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.

    But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:03 am

    I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.

    But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.

    AFAIK they are a very similar weight... the supersonic version having a 200kg warhead and the subsonic version twice that (400kgs).

    Add to that the mini Brahmos-M mentioned on this forum with a mach 3 speed and a 500km range I rather suspect it will be a very potent aircraft...


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    Post  flamming_python on Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:31 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.

    But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.

    AFAIK they are a very similar weight... the supersonic version having a 200kg warhead and the subsonic version twice that (400kgs).

    Add to that the mini Brahmos-M mentioned on this forum with a mach 3 speed and a 500km range I rather suspect it will be a very potent aircraft...

    The thing is that the Supersonic version is a couple metres longer or so.

    I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.
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    Post  medo on Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:25 pm

    MiG-29K/KUB could not carry Yakhont/Onyx missile, because it is too heavy with weight of 3 t. I think even Klub with 1.5 t is too heavy for MiG-29K to carry it under its wings pylons. Su-33 on the other hand could carry Klub missiles under body pylons, they are not too heavy.

    Regarding R-37M long range AAM, MiG-29K could not use it, because it have to small and too weak radar. I'm not sure if Su-30SM could use it, as Su-30SM doesn't have L-band components in its radar, although Bars-R radar have enough range and power. I think this missile will be in use only with miG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA,because they have L-band radars.
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:24 am

    I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.

    I don't know of any air launched anti ship model of Klub... the airborne launched models AFAIK are land attack Kalibr only.

    the MiG-35 has a unified design with the MiG-29K and can carry 2.5 ton payloads on its two inner wing pylons...

    I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.

    That is perhaps why they are bothering to make the smaller lighter Brahmos-M?

    Regarding R-37M long range AAM, MiG-29K could not use it, because it have to small and too weak radar. I'm not sure if Su-30SM could use it, as Su-30SM doesn't have L-band components in its radar, although Bars-R radar have enough range and power. I think this missile will be in use only with miG-31BM, Su-35 and PAK-FA,because they have L-band radars.

    Actually most modern fighters could use it as its primary use is against large aircraft like JSTARS, AWACS, Transport aircraft, tanker aircraft etc etc.

    With its AESA radar the MiG-35 should have no problem using it to max range, but aircraft like the MiG-29K could also use it to slightly shorter distances with higher energies...



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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  chicken on Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:45 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    GarryB wrote:
    I haven't seen any evidence that any MiG-29/MiG-35 can carry a supersonic Kalibr variant.

    But yes a MiG-29K can for sure carry a subsonic one.

    AFAIK they are a very similar weight... the supersonic version having a 200kg warhead and the subsonic version twice that (400kgs).

    Add to that the mini Brahmos-M mentioned on this forum with a mach 3 speed and a 500km range I rather suspect it will be a very potent aircraft...

    The thing is that the Supersonic version is a couple metres longer or so.

    I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.



    It's pretty long. Also nice capsule.
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:08 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I was looking over MiG-29K/MiG-35 weapon capability the other day and I found only references to subsonic Kalibr model designations; hence my suspicions.

    I don't know of any air launched anti ship model of Klub... the airborne launched models AFAIK are land attack Kalibr only.

    I've seen quite a few references to the MiG-29K/MiG-35 being compatible with the subsonic versions of the Kalibr; in both their land-attack and anti-ship export variants.

    e.g. http://www.flyfighterjet.com/jetflights/mig-29-documentary-wings-of-russia.html

    That is perhaps why they are bothering to make the smaller lighter Brahmos-M?

    It seems to be the only supersonic anti-ship missile that we definately know to be compatible with the MiG-29K/MiG-35.

    The only snag is that it seems to be targatted for the Indian Navy and export market, but I'm sure that the Russian Navy is examining the possibility of procuring them for their own use - if they haven't decided on it already that is.

    For the subsonic role the MiG-29K/MiG-35s have both the Uran and the subsonic Kalibr; so no problems there.
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    Post  TR1 on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:34 pm

    Is there any actual news that any service is integrating Klub/Kalibr with MiG-29K?

    Plastic containers are nice, but I have yet to see anything past that. And doubt there is anything.

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