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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  GarryB on Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:55 am

    The VMF likely had a play with the Indian Mig-29Ks , but these will be the models built for them so it will likely have all new (to the VMF) modern weapons so this will be very good.


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    Re: MiG-29K: News and info

    Post  flamming_python on Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:43 am

    Meh, I swear I saw 1-2 MiG-29s buzzing around my base round about Summer '11 onwards. Not always easy to tell a Su-33 from a MiG-29; but I think they flew close enough for me to be confident I made a positive ID.

    The Kuznetsov's airwing (279th KIAP) was based about 3km away (their home; the Kuzya is only their home away from home) and they were flying over and around us every other day; so I can only assume the MiG-29s were deployed to the same airbase - it was the only strip around for many miles.

    Funny thing is that as I recall - the MiG-29s were painted in Strizh colours. Either that or something close; like the top of the fuselage was red with an outline of a huge white star over the top of it. Something like that.

    Based on this - I don't think they were MiG-29Ks; in any case I'm not sure if there were any such aircraft in Russia at the time.

    Could it be that they were lent a couple MiG-29 aircraft, and had instructors from the Strizhi or some other expert pilots instructing and familiarizing them with the aircraft ahead of the introduction of the MiG-29K?
    Would make sense - they are Russia's only shipborne fighter regiment and one of the most critical and likely to see action; so the high quality of their training is paramount.
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    Post  George1 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:36 am

    The first ship fighter aircraft MiG-29 k and MiG-29KUB arrived in the Russian Navy.

    The Naval Aviation of the Navy received four serial ship fighter generation "4 ++". Under the terms of the contract, "RAC «MiG» must deliver to the Ministry of defence of 24 marine fighter aircraft MiG-29 k/KUB until 2015.

    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131125/979421180.html
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    During 2014 and 2015 remaining 20 MIG-29K will be delivered to Russian Navy

    Post  Viktor on Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:11 pm

    During 2014 and 2015 remaining 20 MIG-29K will be delivered to Russian Navy

    RAC "MiG" plans to increase the supply ship Defense Ministry MiG-29K/KUB
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    Delivery of new MIG-29K/KUB for russian navy.

    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:32 pm

    MOSCOW, November 25 (RIA Novosti) – The Russian navy has taken delivery of its first four series-produced MiG-29K/KUB carrier based fighter jets, the Defense Ministry said Monday.

    “The MiG aircraft-manufacturing corporation has handed over two MiG-29K single-seat and two MiG-29KUB twin-seat carrier-based fighter aircraft,” a spokesman said.

    The Russian Defense Ministry signed a contract with MiG in February 2012 for delivery of 20 MiG-29K and four MiG-29KUB fighters by 2015.

    The aircraft will be deployed on Russia's sole serving carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, based in Murmansk with the Northern Fleet.

    The Admiral Kuznetsov currently operates Sukhoi Su-33 naval fighter aircraft.

    The MiG-29K is a naval variant of the MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jet, and has folding wings, an arrester tail-hook, strengthened airframe and multirole capability thanks to its Zhuk-ME slotted array radar, MiG says.

    Unlike the Su-33, which is capable of air defense missions only, the MiG-29K can be armed with a wide variety of air-to-surface as well as air-to-air weaponry and laser-designation systems.

    The aircraft is also capable of “buddy” refueling other MiG-29Ks using the PAZ-1MK refueling pod.

    So far, the aircraft has only entered service with India, for use on the refitted Russian-built carrier INS Vikramaditya, which was handed over to the Indian Navy on November 15.
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    Post  mack8 on Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:19 pm

    No photos of the first 4 MiG-29K/KUB in VMF colours?  cry  Where will they be based, at Yeisk?
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    Post  SOC on Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:47 pm

    mack8 wrote:No photos of the first 4 MiG-29K/KUB in VMF colours?  cry  Where will they be based, at Yeisk?

    They've installed the ski-jump and arrested landing strip at Yeysk and are resurfacing the parking areas and building a bunch of new aircraft shelters (I see 25 foundations currently). So, they could go there, sure. Or, they may well simply go there for training but have their permanent home at Severomorsk-3, displacing the Su-33s and making it simpler to join with the carrier for deployment.
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    Post  Viktor on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:40 pm

    Nice  thumbsup 

    Russian Aircraft Corporation "MiG" plans in 2014 to put the Defense Ministry next 10 decked MiG-29K/KUB
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    Post  mack8 on Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:07 pm

    VMF MiG-29KR and KUBR at LII! Have no idea if these are from the first lot (the 4 delivered in 2013), or part of subsequent one due this year (10).

    http://russianplanes.net/type/Mikoyan-Gurevich/MiG-29/35

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    Post  zg18 on Thu May 15, 2014 6:17 pm

    MiG-29KUB with four prototype Kh-35U



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    MiG-29KUB with four prototype Kh-35U

    Post  GarryB on Sat May 17, 2014 12:09 pm

    nice... the red colour and black and white markings show it as being a test round... I suspect they will be testing releasing the weapon to ensure clean separation during launch and exploring the launch parameters... ie how fast and high or slow and low it can be released safely.


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    Post  mack8 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:48 pm

    Looks like the MiG-29KR/KUBRs for VMF will be numbered starting 50:


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    Post  medo on Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:59 pm

    First visible difference between Russian and Indian MiG-28K is, that Russian MiG have new standard Russian RWR sensors (like those on Su-30 and Su-35), while Indian one doesn't have.

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    Post  mack8 on Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:19 pm

    Indeed, and also the configuration of the antennas on the spine.


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    MiG-29K VMF

    Post  medo on Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:24 pm

    I hope Russian navy will buy additional 24 MiG-29K/KUB for trainings and for rotation on carrier. Rotation of planes will increase their service life.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:18 pm

    What would be the standard RUSSIAN air to air load out for the mig-29k, is the russian navy using other missiles then the r-77. R-73?
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:35 pm

    I am impressed by the awesome cockpit of the mig-29k(ub)



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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:19 am

    For the last decade and a half the Russian military has bought very few R-77s, though it has bought the R-73 in enormous numbers and it is a very capable missile.

    The only Russian aircraft able to carry the R-77 was the C model MiG-29S. The naval forces largely had ground based Su-27s and Kuznetsov based Su-33s all of which were equipped with a special model R-27 and R-27E missile designed to operate over sea surfaces.

    Now that money is being spent on new multirole aircraft it is also being spent on new munitions like the R-77.

    I would suspect standard armament for the MiG-29K2 would include R-77 and R-73 but also the naval model R-27 and R-27E in SARH (R1) and passive radar homing (P) and also IR guided (T) models.

    They might also add the R-37M or RVV-BD missile in the longer term as the MiG gets an AESA radar.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:25 am

    Thanks!!

    So, when flying from the Kuznetsov 2 r-73 2 r-77 and 2 r-27 missiles could be a realistic load out?
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:41 pm

    Yes, certainly.

    And more specifically having a load out of 2 x R-73M2s gives powerful close combat capabilities, while 2 x R-77s give a bit of reach while having a good fire and forget performance, and a couple of R-27ET missiles would allow long range engagement of stealthy targets or low altitude run down shots.

    Normally SARH requires a lock and tracking of the target and targets are easier to lock when they are closing targets. The effective range for a lock on a closing target could be 30-40 percent greater than the range for a receding target. This can mean a small fast target like a cruise missile flying very low can be a difficult target because the low altitude reduces AAM performance and the fact that it is receding reduces the range that a SARH missile can achieve a lock.

    In comparison a receding target is easier to lock on with a heat seeking missile as the engine exhaust and other hot parts are clearly visible so you could get locks at much longer ranges than you could with a head on engagement.

    this all means that a closing target can be hit effectively and efficiently with the R-73 for close range targets and R-77 for targets further away while escaping targets can be engaged with the R-27ET with a good chance of success. The different weapons are complimentary.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:09 pm

    Awesome! Thats a awesome weapon load-out for the mig-29k!!
    Then my final question: has the r-27 missile ever seen operational deployment on the Kuznetsov?
    So were su-33s and mig-29k aircraft ever armed with the r-27 while flying from the kuznetsov?

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    Post  medo on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:19 pm

    Which anti-ship missile will be better suited for Mig-29K? Kh-31AM or Kh-35? Both are in 600 kg class. I would say Kh-31AM would be better as the missile is faster than Kh-35. I think naval Su-30SM should use air launched Club and Onix missiles.
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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:25 pm

    I believe the kh-35 missile has better range but i am not sure.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:34 am

    I rather think a mix of both weapons would be useful depending upon the target.

    An alert capable target might be better engaged with the high speed Kh-31, but a target that is unaware or not well protected then the Kh-35 offers a larger warhead... from memory the Kh-31 has a 90kg HE Incendiary warhead while the Kh-35 has a 145kg HE incendiary warhead.

    note the most dangerous thing on a ship is fire so incendiary warheads tend to be more lethal than simple HE warheads.


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    Post  Flyingdutchman on Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:56 pm

    GarryB wrote:I rather think a mix of both weapons would be useful depending upon the target.

    An alert capable target might be better engaged with the high speed Kh-31, but a target that is unaware or not well protected then the Kh-35 offers a larger warhead... from memory the Kh-31 has a 90kg HE Incendiary warhead while the Kh-35 has a 145kg HE incendiary warhead.

    note the most dangerous thing on a ship is fire so incendiary warheads tend to be more lethal than simple HE warheads.

    Wich one of them has better range?

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