Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=532663&lang=RU

Russia’s top brass inks deal on 20 Su-34 frontline bombers

The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, according to a TASS source in the domestic defense industry

MOSCOW, June 8. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has signed a three-year contract on receiving about 20 Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bombers, a source in the domestic defense industry told TASS on Monday.

"Last week, a contract was signed between the Defense Ministry and the Sukhoi Aircraft Company on building about 20 Su-34 frontline bombers," the source said.

The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, the source said.

A contract on the purchase of upgraded Su-34M planes "is expected to be signed in 2021," the source added.


https://tass.com/defense/1165443

So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

dino00 wrote:

George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

Probably, because the first one would be surely be concluded before 2023, so it would be included into this (already ongoing) framework while the remaining part would go into the following one i.e. 2027.
And probably it would be the first one batch to go without recon containers, as they are till testing them but didn't want to wait.

dino00 wrote:

George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.

medo wrote:

You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.

Won't they upgrade the existing fleet?

medo wrote:

dino00 wrote:

George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.

They will, it would either be the second batch of 2027 framework or it will go to the 2032 framework.

Given that they will deliver the last four of the current batch this month, I 'll expect that they are already modifying the assembly line and so would begin produce the new version from 2021.

The Ministry of Defense intends to upgrade its Su-34

The military department is considering the modernization of the Su-34 bombers fleet. Representatives of the early series released at the turn of the 2010s can become candidates . When improving combat vehicles, experience gained both in Syria and those obtained during normal daily operation should be taken into account

The issue of modernizing a part of the Su-34 bomber fleet is currently being worked out, sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia. We study the number of machines that may fall under the new program, as well as the amount of necessary work. After that, they will decide on the advisability of concluding a new contract for modernization . It can become an addition to the two existing contracts for new aircraft of this type, according to which it is planned to manufacture about a hundred more shock machines.

Full Article
https://iz.ru/1022604/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/samolet-na-prokachku-minoborony-namereno-modernizirovat-svoi-su-34

During the operational life of most military equipment they will occasionally need overhauls of engines or airframes or avionics where old equipment is just replaced with newer stuff.

Sometimes the performance doesn't change a lot because it might be replacing 5.25 inch floppy disk drives with a 3.5 inch floppy just meant they were smaller and not that much faster, but sometimes the change is dramatic... replacing a 3.5 inch floppy with a CD drive is an enormous change in performance and a DVD drive is equally a huge step up in capacity, but replacing the drive with a USB port is more of a change because as USB pendrives get bigger capacity the system can use the bigger capacity without needing actual hardware upgrades. Of course over time you do upgrade.... USB 1 to USB-2 and now USB-3 or eSATA offers enormous amounts of data going in or coming out rather quickly and of course wifi networks allowing updates in flight or on the runway...

Upgrading the hardware actually makes it simpler to operate and maintain as well as improving performance improving commonality amongst the aircraft in the fleet is also of benefit too.

Of course some upgrades are not critical... sometimes the upgrade might be in the self defence EW area so not every aircraft might need it... it might be an upgrade package that allows the aircraft to carry an ESM pod that can protect the entire flight of aircraft the plane in question is operating with. Equally it could be jammer equipment or SEAD equipment that not all the aircraft will need... but might eventually receive as an upgrade to make it flexible later on to choose which aircraft performs which roles on a mission.

BetAB-500 from Su-34

Very interesting, Alfa anti-ship missile...don't remember ever hearing anything about this before

Old project. It was never put in service.

is that from a recent article/page? because project "alpha" antiship missile was the predecessor of kalibr in 90s:
http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/pkr/alpha.html

and also Su-32FN was supposed to be a dedicated maritime strike fighter (and even an ASW one together)

TheArmenian wrote:Old project. It was never put in service.

Indeed an hold over from the disaster of the 90's decade, and been greatly superseded by other more promising AshM's since then.

Vid of navlised SU-34 prototype testing on carrier

That's Su-27KUB, a training jet; the Su-34 has canards & its nose is different.

First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce

The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

magnumcromagnon wrote:

I think all CEP figures are pure speculation. This is a rather critical state secret since one does not want the enemy to estimate the
effectiveness of conventional weapons (or even nuclear ones). Let NATzO "ubermenschen" believe that Russian CEP is a joke. It
will only serve to take out faster any attempt to invade Russia.

Cyberspec wrote:First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce

The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

I probably jumped the gun here. This is likely one of the 20 recently ordered Su-34's that apparently feature upgrades that were implemented based on use in Syria. The full blown Su-34M hasn't yet been officially ordered...contract is expected in 2021

Cyberspec wrote:

Cyberspec wrote:First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce

The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

I probably jumped the gun here. This is likely one of the 20 recently ordered Su-34's that apparently feature upgrades that were implemented based on use in Syria. The full blown Su-34M hasn't yet been officially ordered...contract is expected in 2021

No way, the "modernized" refers to improvements based in the Siria experience. This version is called "NVO"

The regiment 47 BAP based in Voronezh is currently receiving this improvements,

This notice probably refers to old Su-34 after MLU



The Su-34M version still is not ready, there are not any prototype

The contract for 76 machines (three regiments + 4 for Lipetsk) is expected for 2021 and the delivery will start 2022 or more probably 2023

For the moment only rest to hand over two machines of the contract of 92 signed in 2012

LMFS wrote:

Right, or maybe some of the last four units that were still left from the old contract?

No, only two remained for delivery after receive 8 Su-34 last year, the two last at the end of december

The two last Su-34 under the contract of 2012, with serial 11-07 and 11-08, are going to be handed over rigth now

With this, Russian air Force hace received 129 Su-34

- 5 of the instalation batch between 2006 and 2009, under a contract of 2006
- 32 between 2010 and 2013 under a contract of 2008
- 92 betwwen 2014 and 2020 under a contract of 2012

2 have been lost in an accident and 2 retired after damage. Other five of the first series habe been retired to research or instruction institutes, then about 120 Su-34 are in service