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    Post  dino00 on Sat May 30, 2020 10:16 am

    Russian Ministry of Defense in June will receive the last four Su-34 bombers under the existing contract - source

    Moscow. May 30. INTERFAX - In June, it is planned to transfer to the RF Ministry of Defense the last four Su-34 bombers under the current contract of 2012, a source in the military-industrial complex told Interfax.
    Under the current contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, four aircraft remain to be delivered for 92 Su-34 aircraft. It is planned that they will be handed over during June,” the source said.
    On the eve it became known that in early June it is expected to sign a new major contract for the supply of a modernized version of the Su-34 to the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS).
    "It is expected that a new serial contract with the Russian Defense Ministry for 76 modernized Su-34M bombers will be signed in the very near future - most likely next week," the agency’s source said
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    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=532663&lang=RU
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    Post  dino00 on Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:06 pm

    Russia’s top brass inks deal on 20 Su-34 frontline bombers

    The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, according to a TASS source in the domestic defense industry

    MOSCOW, June 8. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry has signed a three-year contract on receiving about 20 Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bombers, a source in the domestic defense industry told TASS on Monday.

    "Last week, a contract was signed between the Defense Ministry and the Sukhoi Aircraft Company on building about 20 Su-34 frontline bombers," the source said.

    The contract involves standard Su-34 aircraft with certain alterations based on the experience of the operation of several dozen bombers of this type earlier purchased for the troops, the source said.

    A contract on the purchase of upgraded Su-34M planes "is expected to be signed in 2021," the source added.


    https://tass.com/defense/1165443
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    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:05 am

    So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms
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    Post  dino00 on Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:13 am

    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.
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    Post  marcellogo on Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:55 am

    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    Probably, because the first one would be surely be concluded before 2023, so it would be included into this (already ongoing) framework while the remaining part would go into the following one i.e. 2027.
    And probably it would be the first one batch to go without recon containers, as they are till testing them but didn't want to wait.
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    Post  medo on Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:47 am

    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.
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    Post  mnztr on Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:43 pm

    medo wrote:

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.

    Won't they upgrade the existing fleet?
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    Post  marcellogo on Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:25 pm

    medo wrote:
    dino00 wrote:
    George1 wrote:So 20 more Su-34 before Su-34Ms

    About 20 from the NVO type with 3 new containers and the Syrian experience, and the others ~56 from the M version, that's what I interpret.

    You could be correct. But I hope they will sign for 76 M version in first batch + another batch. Buying only 56 of new version is not economical and RuAF for sure need more of deeply upgraded ones, specially as they will get new or deeply modernized radar although even existing one is very capable.
    They will, it would either be the second batch of 2027 framework or it will go to the 2032 framework.

    Given that they will deliver the last four of the current batch this month, I 'll expect that they are already modifying the assembly line and so would begin produce the new version from 2021.
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    Post  dino00 on Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:12 pm

    The Ministry of Defense intends to upgrade its Su-34

    The military department is considering the modernization of the Su-34 bombers fleet. Representatives of the early series released at the turn of the 2010s can become candidates . When improving combat vehicles, experience gained both in Syria and those obtained during normal daily operation should be taken into account


    The issue of modernizing a part of the Su-34 bomber fleet is currently being worked out, sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia. We study the number of machines that may fall under the new program, as well as the amount of necessary work. After that, they will decide on the advisability of concluding a new contract for modernization . It can become an addition to the two existing contracts for new aircraft of this type, according to which it is planned to manufacture about a hundred more shock machines.

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    https://iz.ru/1022604/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/samolet-na-prokachku-minoborony-namereno-modernizirovat-svoi-su-34
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:35 am

    During the operational life of most military equipment they will occasionally need overhauls of engines or airframes or avionics where old equipment is just replaced with newer stuff.

    Sometimes the performance doesn't change a lot because it might be replacing 5.25 inch floppy disk drives with a 3.5 inch floppy just meant they were smaller and not that much faster, but sometimes the change is dramatic... replacing a 3.5 inch floppy with a CD drive is an enormous change in performance and a DVD drive is equally a huge step up in capacity, but replacing the drive with a USB port is more of a change because as USB pendrives get bigger capacity the system can use the bigger capacity without needing actual hardware upgrades. Of course over time you do upgrade.... USB 1 to USB-2 and now USB-3 or eSATA offers enormous amounts of data going in or coming out rather quickly and of course wifi networks allowing updates in flight or on the runway...

    Upgrading the hardware actually makes it simpler to operate and maintain as well as improving performance improving commonality amongst the aircraft in the fleet is also of benefit too.

    Of course some upgrades are not critical... sometimes the upgrade might be in the self defence EW area so not every aircraft might need it... it might be an upgrade package that allows the aircraft to carry an ESM pod that can protect the entire flight of aircraft the plane in question is operating with. Equally it could be jammer equipment or SEAD equipment that not all the aircraft will need... but might eventually receive as an upgrade to make it flexible later on to choose which aircraft performs which roles on a mission.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:25 am

    BetAB-500 from Su-34

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 05, 2020 3:53 am

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:41 am

    Very interesting, Alfa anti-ship missile...don't remember ever hearing anything about this before
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    Post  TheArmenian on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 pm

    Old project. It was never put in service.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:54 pm

    is that from a recent article/page? because project "alpha" antiship missile was the predecessor of kalibr in 90s:
    http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/pkr/alpha.html

    and also Su-32FN was supposed to be a dedicated maritime strike fighter (and even an ASW one together)
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:41 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Old project. It was never put in service.

    Indeed an hold over from the disaster of the 90's decade, and been greatly superseded by other more promising AshM's since then.
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    Post  mnztr on Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:05 am

    Vid of navlised SU-34 prototype testing on carrier

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:29 am

    That's Su-27KUB, a training jet; the Su-34 has canards & its nose is different.


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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:24 am

    First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce Very Happy

    The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews
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    Post  kvs on Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:59 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 36 Alfa10

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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:47 am

    Cyberspec wrote:First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce Very Happy

    The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

    I probably jumped the gun here. This is likely one of the 20 recently ordered Su-34's that apparently feature upgrades that were implemented based on use in Syria. The full blown Su-34M hasn't yet been officially ordered...contract is expected in 2021

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    Post  LMFS on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:58 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce Very Happy

    The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

    I probably jumped the gun here. This is likely one of the 20 recently ordered Su-34's that apparently feature upgrades that were implemented based on use in Syria. The full blown Su-34M hasn't yet been officially ordered...contract is expected in 2021

    Right, or maybe some of the last four units that were still left from the old contract? They were planned to be delivered in June, but I saw no news confirming their reception by the VKS.

    First prototype of the M version was expected for 2022, with new radar and deeper changes.

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    Post  AMCXXL on Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:34 pm

    Cyberspec wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:First Su-34M has been handed over to the Airforce Very Happy

    The upgraded su-34 bomber has joined the combat staff of the ZVO aviation regiment in the Voronezh region
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12302334@egNews

    I probably jumped the gun here. This is likely one of the 20 recently ordered Su-34's that apparently feature upgrades that were implemented based on use in Syria. The full blown Su-34M hasn't yet been officially ordered...contract is expected in 2021
    No way, the "modernized" refers to improvements based in the Siria experience. This version is called "NVO"

    The regiment 47 BAP based in Voronezh is currently receiving this improvements,

    This notice probably refers to old Su-34 after MLU



    The Su-34M version still is not ready, there are not any prototype

    The contract for 76 machines (three regiments + 4 for Lipetsk) is expected for 2021 and the delivery will start 2022 or more probably 2023

    For the moment only rest to hand over two machines of the contract of 92 signed in 2012

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    Post  AMCXXL on Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:55 pm

    LMFS wrote:

    Right, or maybe some of the last four units that were still left from the old contract?

    No, only two remained for delivery after receive 8 Su-34 last year, the two last at the end of december

    The two last Su-34 under the contract of 2012, with serial 11-07 and 11-08, are going to be handed over rigth now

    With this, Russian air Force hace received 129 Su-34

    - 5 of the instalation batch between 2006 and 2009, under a contract of 2006
    - 32 between 2010 and 2013 under a contract of 2008
    - 92 betwwen 2014 and 2020 under a contract of 2012

    2 have been lost in an accident and 2 retired after damage. Other five of the first series habe been retired to research or instruction institutes, then about 120 Su-34 are in service



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