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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  AMCXXL Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:20 am

    At the top of the imege, 2 Su-34 of 47º BAP (Nº01 and Nº25) retired from service, stored at the empty Baltimore airbase in Voronezh (47º BAP works at Buturlinovka airbase since 2013 because the Baltimore rebuilt )

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    Transport of Su-34 Nº01 and Nº25 to Voronezh

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    Post  limb Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:12 am

    AMCXXL wrote:At the top of the imege, 2 Su-34 of 47º BAP (Nº01 and Nº25) retired from service, stored at the empty Baltimore airbase in Voronezh (47º BAP works at Buturlinovka airbase since 2013 because the Baltimore rebuilt )

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    Transport of Su-34 Nº01 and Nº25 to Voronezh

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    Why were they retired so early? those are extremely young airframes.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:22 am

    The Wally Walnuts dude in the lower sub forums had the nerve to lecture me about whether China copies, I mean they only added levcons to a Su-34:
    A visual a new Chinese fighter-bomber has appeared. You don't need to be a great connoisseur of aviation technology, so you don't have to guess which concept the Chinese "copied" to make their next-generation tactical bomber.
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    https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1354715395693965313

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 30, 2021 7:30 am


    Look how they massacred my boy!!! cry

    There are people there actually saying this this isn't Su-34 lol1

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:38 am

    This is the source: https://news.creaders.net/china/2015/10/31/1601846.html

    They can also be used as long range interceptors/interdictors, & no need for any Tu-22Ms.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:56 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:This is the source: https://news.creaders.net/china/2015/10/31/1601846.html

    They can also be used as long range interceptors/interdictors, & no need for any Tu-22Ms.

    Yes, we know that

    Everyone does since 20 years ago

    Do you know how? From reading Su-34 specs list

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 30, 2021 2:23 pm

    They can also be used as long range interceptors/interdictors, & no need for any Tu-22Ms.

    Unless they have scaled it up quite a bit it can't compete with the 2,000km radius Backfire with a 24 ton bomb capacity...

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    Post  Isos Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:31 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Look how they massacred my boy!!! cry

    There are people there actually saying this this isn't Su-34 lol1

    It has something of a boeing B-737.

    No

    But heh according to chinese fanboys china is not copying anything and is doing great job with its own designs. Yet anoth failed copy.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:53 pm

    Isos wrote:Yet anoth failed copy.

    Copy maybe (at least very heavily influenced Laughing ) but "failed"????

    U on drugs? The aircraft hasn't even been seen in metal (and they probably haven't started prototype fabrication yet) but you declare it to be a failure?

    /facepalm
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    Post  Isos Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:30 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Isos wrote:Yet anoth failed copy.

    Copy maybe (at least very heavily influenced Laughing ) but "failed"????

    U on drugs?  The aircraft hasn't even been seen in metal (and they probably haven't started prototype fabrication yet) but you declare it to be a failure?

    /facepalm

    It looks like a passenger aircraft on which they will put shitty chinese engines and try to copy russian su-34 caracteristics.

    For me it's a fail.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:59 pm


    I look forward to them trying to launch this thing off the aircraft carrier, it's too good to pass up

    Su-33 knockoff already has reputation of a brick, this one should be even better

    I hope that cockpit is watertight lol1

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    Post  Isos Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:24 pm

    It also has the back of a mig-29SMT. pale

    It's impossible to launch it from a carrier. Even less possible from one with a ski-jump.

    But some on twitter say it is a fake design made by fanboys.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:26 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    I look forward to them trying to launch this thing off the aircraft carrier, it's too good to pass up

    Su-33 knockoff already has reputation of a brick, this one should be even better

    I hope that cockpit is watertight lol1


    Not with that tail-sting.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:13 am

    They don't need to navalize it- just draw a 5K km circle from AFBs in NE China, Yunnan, in Tibet, Sinkiang, on the E. C. Sea coast, & their "unsinkable CVs" in the SC Sea, to see how far their ALCMs will be able to strike.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:24 am

    There is nothing wrong with the aerodynamics of the Su-34, and actually for all we know they might be releasing this because the new upgrade of the Su-34 to Su-34M might include a replacement of the canards with these new devices they already have testing experience with their Su-57 on.

    I mean zero points for originality, but if they get a decent bomber out of it who cares if it is not original, every design is essentially a collection of solutions to a series of problems and taking a successful solution from somewhere else saves time and money... the only thing that matters is... is it what you need?

    At least it isn't a scaled up VSTOL F-35 as their new strike platform...

    I would have expected however that if they were going to base their new strike aircraft on a new design it would be based on that new big stealth fighter of theirs that is so advanced and sophisticated... having commonality with that would be a good cost effective design strategy...

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    Post  walle83 Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:53 pm

    Yes making judgement on a 6 year old unofficial CGI modell makes alot of sence.

    Cant hardly find any sources when googling after this.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:38 am

    AFAIK those levicons or whatever they are called offer all the advantages of canards without its problems, so why not upgrade the Su-34 with them?

    It is hardly going to require a complete redesign, and if it improves performance and adds commonality with other aircraft then why not?

    If they make all their Su-34s have Levicons or whatever they are called then only their Su-33s will have canards... which makes you think they should be modified too...

    Actually... that is an interesting question... the Su-33KUB upgrade of the Su-33 carrier plane... perhaps that CGI is the latest iteration of that design using experience of putting the Su-57 into service... maybe it isn't even Chinese...
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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:05 am

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    With Tarantul ECM pod

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    Post  Isos Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:23 am

    Is Tarantul the same thing as SAP 14 or a new jammer ? Do you have any official datasheet.
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    Post  jhelb Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:25 pm

    Isos wrote:Is Tarantul the same thing as SAP 14 or a new jammer ? Do you have any official datasheet.
    Same as SAP 14. Not a new jammer. L700 Tarantul ECM pod can provide electronic cover for a group of aircraft,
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    Post  franco Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:04 am

    The aviation regiment of the Central Military District in the Chelyabinsk region was replenished with a modernized Su-34 fighter-bomber

    The upgraded Su-34 fighter-bomber of the 4++generation has entered service with the mixed aviation regiment of the Central Military District (CVO) in the Chelyabinsk Region.

    The flight and engineering staff of the regiment received the updated aircraft at the manufacturer's factory and flew to the permanent base airfield in the Chelyabinsk region.

    The improved Su-34 fighter-bomber is equipped with special equipment that increases the aircraft's ability to detect air and ground targets and expands the arsenal of used means of aircraft destruction.

    The incoming aircraft became the first Su-34 fighter-bomber in the Central Military District which under went modernization and entered service with the Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Central Military District in 2021.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12348421@egNews

    NOTE: first mention of this that I have seen. Anyone have more info?

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    Post  LMFS Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:50 am

    Is this the first M or just an overhauled unit?
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    Post  franco Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:04 am

    Sounds like upgraded "which under went modernization".

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