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    Post  Hole on Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:26 pm

    Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
    UUAPO, Ulan-Ude (Mi-8 versions)
    VASO, Voronezh (Il-112)
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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:00 pm

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    According to Vedomosti, the MoD may sign a new contract in 2019 or 2020 for an estimated 48 Su-34 as part of GPV-2027. This wouldn't be sufficient to load NAZ's production line though, so there is a debate about whether to transfer production to KnAAZ. 4/

    https://m.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2019/10/07/813072-proizvodstvo-boevih-samoletov
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    Post  Hole on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:03 pm

    You´re late. Look a page back, this is already discussed. Cool Very Happy
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:09 pm

    Hole wrote:Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
    UUAPO, Ulan-Ude (Mi-8 versions)
    VASO, Voronezh (Il-112)

    So which plants does this moron propose to close since he says half of them? All those plants are in use for production.
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    Post  Isos on Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:44 pm

    Hole wrote:You´re late. Look a page back, this is already discussed. Cool Very Happy

    Very Happy sorry then.
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    Post  Cyberspec on Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:28 pm

    According to the rumour mill on the Ru net, they're expecting the following orders in 2019/2020

    48 x Su-34's
    60+ Su-30SM's
    more Su-35's (unknown quantity)
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    Post  miketheterrible on Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:35 pm

    That would make sense. Su-30SM's are a very important jet for Russia. Especially if the Su-30SM updates include the Irbis-E radar, then it would be by far the best air superiority dual purpose plane in use. May limit the further orders of Su-35 as it may be only sufficient for airspace protection.
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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:20 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Hole wrote:Aviacor, Samara (formerly Tu-95MS and Tu-154. Today ???)
    Aviastar, Uljanovsk (Il-476 and Il-78M-90A)
    Beriev, Taganrog (Be-200, modernisation of A-50)
    Irkutsk Plant, Irkutsk (Su-30, Yak-130, MS-21)
    Kazan Aviation, Kazan (Tu-214, new Tu-160M2)
    Kazan Helicopters, Kazan (Mi-8, Mi-38, Ansat)
    Knaapo, Komsomolsk-on-Amur (Su-30, Su-35, Su-57)
    KumAPP, Kumertau? (Ka-31/-35, Ka-32, Ka-226)
    RAC MiG with 2 factories in Moscow (MiG-29 versions like MiG-35 and so on)
    Sokol, Nizhny Novgorod (MiG-29UB?, Il-114?)
    NAPO, Novosibirsk (Su-34)
    Progress, Arsenyev (Ka-52, Ka-62)
    Rostvertol, Roston-on-Don (Mi-35M, Mi-28N/UB/M, Mi-26)
    UUAPO, Ulan-Ude (Mi-8 versions)
    VASO, Voronezh (Il-112)

    So which plants does this moron propose to close since he says half of them?  All those plants are in use for production.

    The clown calling for the closure of half the plants should be shot for high treason. He is a bald faced liar serving the interests
    of Russia's enemies. His BS calls and claims are pure propaganda theater. Russia needs to to re-open more of its closed military
    factories and not close any currently running. When you hear some clown invoke "economics" to call for plant closures then you
    instantly know he/it is a snake oil peddler. None of these "industry insiders" and assorted shills have the slightest clue about
    macro economics and their bean counting amounts to nothing other than extortion attempts. I am sure this clown and his/its
    ilk would love to move the plants to 3rd world sweatshops, you know, for "economic" reasons.

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    Post  kvs on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:24 pm

    BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders. I would not put any value in these numbers. It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force. I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential. But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success. While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well. This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:37 pm

    kvs wrote:BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders.   I would not put any value in these numbers.  It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force.    I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential.   But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success.   While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well.    This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).    

    Don't tell franco that, he puts his entire life-savings into these reports. Wink
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    Post  dino00 on Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:06 pm

    Russian Defense Ministry and Sukhoi to sign a new Su-34 contract by the end of the year - source

    Moscow. November 2. INTERFAX - The Russian Defense Ministry intends to conclude a new contract for the supply of Su-34 bombers by the end of the year, an informed source told Interfax.
    "Discussion of the contract for the next batch of Su-34 is already in the final stage. It should be signed before the end of the year," the agency’s source said.
    According to him, the Su-34 bombers will be delivered in the basic configuration, and not in a modernized appearance.
    The source said that Novosibirsk Aircraft Plant will continue to produce aircraft, there is no question of transferring the production of Su-34 to Komsomolsk-on-Amur. "This would require large financial costs, and a serious interruption in mass production, at least six months, so this option is unacceptable."
    Currently, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant (NAZ, a Sukhoi branch, part of the UAC) produces the Su-34 as standard. Every year, the Russian Aerospace Forces receive 16-18 front-line bombers. In 2019, the military transferred 6 of these aircraft. It was planned that this year the manufacturer will complete the supply of Su-34 under the current contract, which the plant is fulfilling ahead of schedule.
    Earlier, the media reported on plans to transfer the production of Su-34 from Novosibirsk to the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant (KnAAZ), which now produces Su-35 and Su-57 fighters. However, later the KLA and local authorities announced that there was no final decision to postpone the production of the Su-34.

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=520967&lang=RU
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    Post  franco on Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:44 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    kvs wrote:BTW, people are fixated on published estimates of state orders.   I would not put any value in these numbers.  It is clear that Russia
    tries to hide its true potential so as to not have its enemies be ready to overwhelm it with force.    I know that it is a fine balance
    between looking weak and attracting an attack, and not alerting your enemies to your true potential.   But I think that we have seen
    this policy be a stellar success.   While NATO pinhead deciders were snoozing and wanking themselves silly about how weak Russia
    was, it managed to rebuild its military capacity and its broader economy as well.    This philosophy of not advertising one's potential
    can also be seen in Russia's secrecy about is oil and gas reserves (they are a state secret).    

    Don't tell franco that, he puts his entire life-savings into these reports. Wink

    Laughing
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    Post  dino00 on Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:03 pm

    Sources: the first prototype of the modernized Su-34 will be created by 2022

    Currently under development

    MOSCOW, December 22. / TASS /. A modernized version of the Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber will be created by 2022, in particular, a radar station will be replaced on a plane. This was reported by TASS two sources in the military-industrial complex.

    "Currently, development work is underway to create a modernized version of the Su-34. The first prototype of the aircraft should be released by 2022," said one of the agency’s interlocutors.

    Another source confirmed that the development of the aircraft should be completed within about two years. According to him, "another airborne radar will be put on the bomber, its navigation system will be updated and the information display systems in the cockpit will be improved."

    The interlocutor added that the avionics on the upgraded Su-34 will receive an open architecture, which will provide the ability to install systems developed on other aircraft.

    In August 2019, the Russian Defense Ministry and Sukhoi signed a contract to modernize the Su-34, taking into account the experience of using the aircraft in Syria.


    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/7398307
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:37 am

    In many ways the Su-34 is a greatly improved Su-24 so it hasn't followed the same upgrades the Su-35 got... it looks like they are going to add some of the multi role sophistication of the Su-35 to it now.

    Regarding future production, I would expect they will continue to buy more Su-35s and Su-30s, and MiG-35s because these are all modern and capable aircraft, each with unique features that make each worth having in different places and situations... MiG-35s in western Russia where flight distances are shorter so payloads and flight range don't need to be so big, which saves on operational costs so you can operate more in an area than you would with a bigger aircraft... this gives you better coverage. For the big Flankers in the far east and the far north their size means extra range and performance, and with new weapons coming out all the time making them even better and more capable why wouldn't they want more to replace old models?
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    Post  Isos on Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:19 pm

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    According to Izvestia, the new modernized Su-34 will be called the Su-34 NVO, and a contract is expected to be signed soon, which will involve the first deliveries this year (the remaining Su-34 slated for delivery this year were likely built in 2019). 13/


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    The Su-34 NVO will receive new universal reconnaissance pods as part of the Sych program. The 3 pod variants:
    -the UKR-RT for SIGINT (smaller version of Tu-214R's Fraktsiya system)
    -UKR-OE for opto-electronic (targeting)
    -UKR-RL with improved ground targeting capabilities. 14/


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    In addition to the reconnaissance pods, the Su-34 NVO will receive new ammunition, and an upgraded version of the Khibiny electronic countermeasure system. 15/
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:41 am

    Another confirmation: https://lenta.ru/news/2020/01/24/su34/
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    Post  George1 on Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:41 pm

    Russia’s top brass to sign contract for several dozen upgraded Su-34 bombers — source

    The aircraft will integrate the latest avionics suite developed under the Sych experimental design work

    MOSCOW, February 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry plans to sign a new contract in the summer for the delivery of several dozen Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bombers to the Aerospace Force with their combat capabilities expanded under the Sych experimental design work, a source in the defense industry told TASS on Wednesday.

    "The Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract with the Sukhoi Company this summer for the delivery of several dozen Su-34 planes to the troops with expanded combat capabilities. The aircraft will integrate the latest avionics suite developed under the Sych experimental design work," the source said.

    The Sych experimental design work was completed in 2019 and, in particular, "it envisages installing underslung reconnaissance containers on Su-34s," the source specified.

    "Also, the range of air-launched weapons, which the Su-34 will be able to employ, increases significantly in the process of this work," the source said.

    Eventually, there are plans to upgrade operational Su-34 planes," the source said.

    TASS has no official confirmation of this information provided by the source.

    https://tass.com/defense/1121765
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    Post  walle83 on Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:28 pm

    George1 wrote:Russia’s top brass to sign contract for several dozen upgraded Su-34 bombers — source

    The aircraft will integrate the latest avionics suite developed under the Sych experimental design work

    MOSCOW, February 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Defense Ministry plans to sign a new contract in the summer for the delivery of several dozen Sukhoi Su-34 frontline bombers to the Aerospace Force with their combat capabilities expanded under the Sych experimental design work, a source in the defense industry told TASS on Wednesday.

    "The Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract with the Sukhoi Company this summer for the delivery of several dozen Su-34 planes to the troops with expanded combat capabilities. The aircraft will integrate the latest avionics suite developed under the Sych experimental design work," the source said.

    The Sych experimental design work was completed in 2019 and, in particular, "it envisages installing underslung reconnaissance containers on Su-34s," the source specified.

    "Also, the range of air-launched weapons, which the Su-34 will be able to employ, increases significantly in the process of this work," the source said.

    Eventually, there are plans to upgrade operational Su-34 planes," the source said.

    TASS has no official confirmation of this information provided by the source.

    https://tass.com/defense/1121765

    So the order will be for new planes. Not only updating the current fleet?
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:57 pm

    Sure looks like it. These will be new Su-34's of the new setup.

    I'm looking forward to know all the changes.
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    Post  dino00 on Thu May 28, 2020 11:17 pm

    Dry air: Defense Ministry to purchase an improved version of the Su-34

    Until 2027, it is planned to supply 76 of the latest modernized bombers


    The modernized Sushki was given the command to take off. The Ministry of Defense agreed on the details of the contract for a new batch of the latest Su-34 bombers. It is expected that by 2027 at least 76 vehicles will enter the troops.

    Under the new contract, the Su-34 will be built in an improved version: with modern weapons and a whole range of reconnaissance systems on board. Experts believe that such aircraft will seriously strengthen the combat capabilities of the Russian Aerospace Forces.Deferred contractDetails of the contract for a new large batch of Su-34s have already been agreed, sources in the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex told Izvestia. Although the document itself has not yet been signed, defense industry enterprises have begun to order components for its execution.

    According to the procurement statements (a copy is available to Izvestia), 76 modernized bombers will be built. Every year until 2027 it is planned to produce from 8 to 14 aircraft. The first nodes for their assembly should go to the plant in the second half of this year.The first contract for the supply of these universal machines was concluded in 2008. Then the Ministry of Defense agreed on the acquisition of 32 bombers.

    A larger agreement was signed in 2012: according to this document, the military department received another 92 aircraft.All Su-34s under the new contract will be modernized as part of the Sych development program. As previously reported by Izvestia, the modernization includes updating the avionics, installing high-precision weapons and a set of several suspended reconnaissance containers.The advanced version is previously designated as Su-34M or Su-34 HBO( Very Happy )

    In order to equip the updated bomber as part of the Sych development work, three replaceable hanging containers with reconnaissance equipment are being developed. They significantly exceed the capabilities of the embedded equipment and should give the aircraft a qualitatively new ability to detect targets.

    A variant of the container with the designation UKR-RT is intended for electronic reconnaissance, UKR-OE for optoelectronic, and UKR-RL for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft.Suspended equipment will give the Su-34 the ability to detect the work of radars and radio stations over hundreds of kilometers, as well as determine their coordinates. With the UKR-RL container, the bomber will be able to “see” at any time of the day, even through dense clouds.


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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Fri May 29, 2020 1:52 pm

    dino00 wrote:Dry air: Defense Ministry to purchase an improved version of the Su-34

    Until 2027, it is planned to supply 76 of the latest modernized bombers


    Good, this will load the plant in Novosibirsk (NAPO) for those years!
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 pm

    dino00 wrote:

    In order to equip the updated bomber as part of the Sych development work, three replaceable hanging containers with reconnaissance equipment are being developed. They significantly exceed the capabilities of the embedded equipment and should give the aircraft a qualitatively new ability to detect targets.

    A variant of the container with the designation UKR-RT is intended for electronic reconnaissance, UKR-OE for optoelectronic, and UKR-RL for radar. They all use a single data bus to interact with the aircraft.Suspended equipment will give the Su-34 the ability to detect the work of radars and radio stations over hundreds of kilometers, as well as determine their coordinates. With the UKR-RL container, the bomber will be able to “see” at any time of the day, even through dense clouds.[/size]

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    https://iz.ru/1016971/anton-lavrov-roman-kretcul/sukhoi-vozdukh-minoborony-zakupit-su-34-usovershenstvovannoi-versii


    Looks like it will be mini AWACS, with single crew.


    More fit for this job than the F35 .
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    Post  Hole on Fri May 29, 2020 9:07 pm

    The radar pod is for recon.

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    Post  Isos on Fri May 29, 2020 11:41 pm

    It's more a RWR than a radar. It's for having a picture of radar coverage,  jamming and SEAD operations. I guess the datalink btw aircraft will allow to share and coordinate automatically the jamming of radars by another su34 equiped with the big central jammer. This one on the picture can work pretty far away safely as passive radars like this one have two time the range of the radar they are detecting.

    The most interesting should be the UKR-RT as it is for ELINT operation so it will allow detection of datalinks and communication and if it is sophisticated enough, it should allow to detect exact position of the emmiter (no traking just a detection when it's active). Some sort of early warning against low flying fighters and stealth fighters.

    The other two are just updated technologies. UKR-RT technology was never used on such plane. Usually they use big planes like boieng P-8 or tupolevs...
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    Post  GarryB on Sat May 30, 2020 8:09 am

    The UKR-RT looks like it is effectively a side looking radar so similar to some of the systems on JSTARS... more focused on ground targets than air targets, but a ground radar view is 24/7 and weather independent... so would provide a useful view of the battlefield without needing to fly over it all the time.

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