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    Post  Admin Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:23 pm

    Su-34 aircraft engaged in the exploration and sidestep during the exercises "Vostok - 2010 "

    Moscow . July 9. Interfax -AVN - During the tactical and strategic exercises "Vostok -2010 " two modern fighter-bomber Su-34 were used for solving exploration, overcoming defense imaginary enemy , the use of guided and unguided weapons against ground targets, reported to Interfax -AVN on Friday the head of the Lipetsk aviatsentra Major-General Alexander Harchevsky .

    " Non-stop Flights to Komsomolsk- on-Amur and back, which were performed before exercise and after talking about the possibilities of the aircraft and pilots , and that with such powerful aircraft systems can ensure the safety of vast expanses of our country " , - said said.

    Two Su -34 returned to the airfield aviatsentra Thursday. For the first time in the history of tactical aviation , they made a nonstop flight on the route Lipetsk - Komsomolsk - on- Amur. During the flight were carried out two in-flight refueling from a tanker flying the Il - 78.

    In early June, a source in the military-industrial complex told Interfax -AVN that the state tests of multi-purpose Su-34 aircraft , which are in the State Flight Test Center ( glycyl ) Air Force Ahtubinsk (Astrakhan region) , is scheduled for completion by the end of the year .

    According to the forecasts , the Su- 34 in the future form the basis of the strike power of Russian Frontal Aviation . The Ministry of Defence and Sukhoi signed a state contract for the supply of Russian Air Force 32 Sukhoi Su -34 . The first machines have already begun to arrive in the Lipetsk center deployment and retraining pilots RF Air Force .

    Serial production of the Su -34 is the Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association named after Chkalov , which is part of the company " Sukhoi " .

    The new strike aircraft Su-34 is capable of , regardless of time of day and weather conditions of engagement in any geographic area of land, sea and air targets with the whole range of aviation ordnance , including precision . On the combat capabilities of Su - 34 aircraft belongs to a generation 4 + . The presence of a plane active safety systems , along with the latest computers has created additional opportunities for Pilots and Navigators to precision bombing , maneuver under enemy fire .

    Excellent aerodynamics, high capacity of internal fuel tanks , high-efficiency double-circuit motors with digital control systems, air refueling , and the suspension of additional fuel tanks provide a flight over long distances , approaching medium range strategic bombers.
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    Post  Admin Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:13 am

    Russian Air Force will receive six Su -34

    Six bombers last generation Su -34 will be delivered to the Russian Air Force until the end of this year , said general director of Sukhoi and MiG Mikhail Pogosyan Tuesday at the Air Show in Farnborough.

    " Now we are implementing a contract for the supply of Su-34 for use MOD, two planes we have set , "- said Pogosyan.

    "We are ramping up production in Novosibirsk , and I hope that next year will begin to supply the Air Force 12-20 aircraft each year " - he added .
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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:26 pm

    Such production rates can give 38 pieces by 2012. That would be nice of course with new contract signed.

    What about SU-32?
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:00 am

    AFAIK the Su-32 is a modification of the Su-26 turboprop aircraft, with variants like Su-29 and Su-32 being used for high manouver show aircraft and two seat trainer variant.
    Even numbers denote a strike aircraft like Su-24 or Tu-22M, and trainers like Yak-130 and Su-32 while uneven numbers are generally fighters or fighter bombers.
    The Su-34 was supposed to be a fighter bomber, but in testing it is bomber/strike aircraft with good self defence capability.
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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:12 pm

    GarryB wrote:AFAIK the Su-32 is a modification of the Su-26 turboprop aircraft, with variants like Su-29 and Su-32 being used for high manouver show aircraft and two seat trainer variant.

    i think he meant the Su-32FN
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    Post  Admin Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:12 pm

    VVS recieves four Su-34

    NOVOSIBIRSK, December 20. (ITAR-TASS). Transmission to the Russian Air Force, four new Sukhoi Su-34 began today at the Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association (NAPO) im.Chkalova. This was reported in the company, noting that the process will last "more than one day."

    Transferring Party bombers will be on schedule, despite the established in the Novosibirsk region adverse weather conditions.

    "Today's 32-degree frost will not affect the transfer of the Su-34, one of the planes had just taken off from an airfield NAPO," - said a spokesman for aircraft construction enterprises.

    The new airplanes from Novosibirsk distillery in Lipetsk, in the center of combat employment and retraining of pilots the Air Force. According to the Aviation Holding Company Sukhoi, which includes NAPO sent four Su-34 - "This is the final batch of serial bombers the Russian Air Force were to receive in 2010 the pace of supply of bombers will continue to grow."

    On the combat capabilities of Su-34 aircraft belongs to a generation "4 +". Regardless of time of day and weather conditions the aircraft is capable of effectively engaging surface, sea and air targets in any geographic area with the whole range of aviation ordnance, including precision. The presence of a plane active safety systems, along with promising computers allowed to create additional opportunities for Pilots and Navigators to precision bombing, maneuver under fire. Installed on the Su-34 equipment allows us to use their weapons on multiple targets simultaneously.
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    Post  Admin Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:30 pm

    Su-34 equipped APU

    Moscow. December 20. Airports - Serial Sukhoi Su-34, the issue of which carries Novosibirsk Aviation Production Association. Chkalov, will be equipped with gas turbine auxiliary power units (APU), reported "AviaPort" an informed source in the military-industrial complex.

    According to him, this year has successfully completed testing APU TA14-130-35 on one of the Su-34 installation of the series, received an appropriate act on positive test results and recommended installing APUs on production aircraft Su-34.

    "Initially, MAT in the Su-34 was tested for NAPO, after which the aircraft was distilled in Akhtubinsk for state tests, whose volume was relatively small. All work performed by MAT testing performed on the ground without a safety" - a spokesman said.

    In his view, if the customer decides, then the APU installation can be modified and the previously released planes, as all the technical problems are solved.

    Add APU to Sukhoi Su-34 will give a completely new quality car, since it will be possible to work the land without the use of ground equipment for aircraft power supply, "- said the expert.

    It is known that the Su-34 established the most perfect domestic avionics. In particular, the Su-34 survey-sighting equipment includes multi-mode radar with a phased development of B004 holding Leninets, radar rearview Optoelectronic sighting system with integrated laser sighting system, television and Helmet-mounted target designation system. The impact of the additional equipment (TV-command or teplovizimonnaya) are placed in hanging containers.

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    Post  Russian Patriot Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:55 pm



    Russian Air Force receives new Su-34 fighter-bombers

    RIA Novosti

    16:00 28/12/2010

    MOSCOW, December 28 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's Air Force received four new Su-34 Fullback fighter-bombers on Tuesday as part of its current modernization program, an Air Force spokesman said.

    Russia started full-scale production of Su-34s in 2008 at a Novosibirsk-based aircraft-manufacturing plant, a subsidiary of the Sukhoi Aircraft Holding.

    A total of 70 aircraft will be delivered by 2015 to replace outdated Su-24 Fencer fighter- bombers, which are currently undergoing modernization to prolong their service life.

    Designed by Sukhoi, the $36-million Su-34 fighter-bomber is a two-seat strike aircraft fitted with twin AL-31MF afterburning turbofan engines.

    It is designed to deliver high-precision strikes on heavily-defended targets under any weather conditions, day or night, and is equipped with a 30-mm GSh-301 cannon, up to 12 Alamo or Archer AAMs, ASMs, and bombs.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2010/russia-101228-rianovosti01.htm
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    Post  Viktor Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:11 am

    So how many Su-34 did airforce recived this year 6 or 8?
    And how many in general are Su-34 in airforce.

    I hope they can reach twelve pieces mark in 2011.
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    Post  Russian Patriot Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:41 pm


    Russian Air Force to receive up to 100 Sukhoi fighter jets by 2015

    RIA Novosti

    07:55 02/01/2011

    MOSCOW, January 2 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Air Force will receive up to 100 Sukhoi fighter jets by 2015, the Defense Ministry spokesman said on Sunday.

    Three state contracts with the Sukhoi design bureau on the supply of the jets have been already signed, Vladimir Drik said.

    Fifty advanced Su-35 Flanker-E multirole fighters, billed as "4++ generation using fifth-generation technology," more than ten advanced Su-27SM Flanker multirole jets and five Su-30M2 Flanker-C multirole fighters are among the aircraft to be supplied.

    The Russian Air Force will also receive twenty-five new Su-34 Fullback fighter-bombers in the next few years, the spokesman said.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2011/russia-110102-rianovosti03.htm
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:07 am

    I have not heard much about the Su-32FN, except that it is a navalised version with a MAD tail sensor and sonobouys optimised for maritime patrol.

    This would be a very interesting replacement for the Su-24 because the Su-24 was mainly a naval strike aircraft whereas the Su-34 has much greater range and endurance potential.

    I would think that the current focus on the navy and airforce might lead to further development but until production of the Su-34 can be ramped up it will take priority over the Su-32FN.

    I would think a Su-32FN with newer lighter weapons and perhaps external fuel and inflight refuelling could take on some of the maritime strike missions of the naval Tu-22M3s.

    Certainly the capacity to carry 3 Oniks missiles would make it a relatively dangerous aircraft.

    Any hypersonic development would make it even more capable as long as the resulting weapon is not too big.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:07 pm

    Yes, Su-34 can carry 3 Brahmos/Yakhont missiles making it most dangerous maritime strike fighter.

    But as I read Su-32FN would consist of Sea Dragon/Sea Snake avionic suite making it good for hunting submarines too.



    lightweight ASW torpedoes, carried in pairs on stations 8 and 9, for a total of 4 rounds, and a conformal centreline pod which can be loaded with up to 72 sonobuoys of various types. An ASW patrol weapons mix would probably involve a mix of these stores, drop tanks and depth charges

    http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Fullback.html

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    Post  haavarla Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:20 am

    Viktor wrote:So how many Su-34 did airforce recived this year 6 or 8?
    And how many in general are Su-34 in airforce.

    I hope they can reach twelve pieces mark in 2011.

    Hi Viktor.
    As of now, there are nine serial prod Su-34.
    The latest are the bort '09'
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    Post  psg Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:06 pm

    have any of the members any information regarding the UOMz Platan targeting system in between the front end of the engine intakes/ ventral position and if the french licenced produced Thales Damocles targeting pod will be utilized on the platform.

    Q. if they are both carried on the same platform will they allow 2 or more targets to be engaged? thanks
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:16 am

    As far as I know the Platan system is a simple basic system that offers performance similar conceptually to the Kaira system on the Su-24 and I believe the Mig-27K.
    It is day and night capable but not all weather so it has LLLTV and probably image intensification capability but it is not a thermal system, but it is built in and together with navigation elements offers the ability to use dumb rockets and bombs as well as TV and laser guided weapons.
    I believe the Damocles will be licence produced in Russia and the first aircraft it will likely be fitted to is the Su-34 as an external pod to compliment and work with the internal Platan system.
    When carrying the Damocles pod the Fullback will have all weather day night optics, while without it it will rely on radar for bad weather targeting.
    I have heard of other targeting pod types like Sapsan and something called Solluks which I think might have been Russian competition with the Damocles.
    I suspect Sapsan and/or Solluks would likely be cheaper if less effective than Damocles and might be used on aircraft to give them air to ground capabilities they otherwise wouldn't have, or to enhance the capabilities they do have.
    For instance the Mig-29SMT can engage ground targets with laser guided weapons but as the laser marking equipment is in the upper nose with the IRST and is pretty much optimised for air to air an under wing mounted pod like Sapsan would improve the field of view and field of engagement if the aircraft was marking targets for itself and presumably with better optics allow greater standoff ranges.
    I have already suggested using targeting pods on the Su-25 and a cheaper system with a range of 10km or so would suit it and be much cheaper than Shkval in the T and TM upgrades while offering the same capabilities. (Remember when Hermes gets into service the Frogfoot will need some optics system to target them and a targeting pod would be ideal as you could use 4-5 for every 20-30 planes and save a bit of money while still enjoying the improved capabilities.)
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    Post  Viktor Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:49 pm

    Interesting discussion is made of Su-34 about Tu-22M3.

    I wonder whats the idea behind Su-34 considering Su-35 is able to do its job just as good. Hardpoints/radar system/IRST/engine/combat radius whats so special about it Su-35 can not do so Su-34 needs to be produced. Ability of pilots to stand up and go to cook some tea? Dont think so.
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:49 pm

    Viktor wrote:I wonder whats the idea behind Su-34 considering Su-35 is able to do its job just as good. Hardpoints/radar system/IRST/engine/combat radius whats so special about it Su-35 can not do so Su-34 needs to be produced. Ability of pilots to stand up and go to cook some tea? Dont think so.

    The Su-34 is specialised for the bomber role. For a start, it's radar and avionics are optimised for the ground attack role.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:58 am

    Have you ever been on a long distance bus ride?

    It is tiring... even with stops every few hours to buy something at a cafe and stretch the legs.

    The simple fact is that the ability to stand up and stretch or go to the toilet on an 8 hour mission is about as valuable as an ejection seat... you don't plan to need it but when it is available you thank the designers for it.

    Imagine sitting on your a$$ for 4 hours in the same seat and then having to go into combat... needing to go to the toilet is bad enough on a bus but in a plane pulling gs it can cause damage.

    Also experience has shown that side by side seating greatly improves communication in a crew.

    It is quite funny that the Soviets adopted an F-111 like Su-24 and then instead of following the US pattern of the F-15E they went with an F-15_111.

    No surprise really, now that the Russians are working on the Su-35 the US is working on its silent eagle equivalent.


    The competition was between the Su-34 and Su-30 (which was just an Su-27UB), which the Su-34 won.
    The Su-35(BM) is a much newer aircraft and in its standard form is a single seat aircraft not really suited to penetrating air defences on its own in a strike role.

    There will be overlaps in performance and operational roles, but each has a different design focus and will be deployed to different units to perform different roles.

    The shared components will reduce operational costs, but the difference is justified.

    If only they could increase production numbers for the Su-34...
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    Post  medo Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:44 pm

    Also Su-34 is larger plane and have larger and more sophisticated defensive electronics, just look at its large tail boom. It is designed for strike role.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:43 pm

    medo wrote:Also Su-34 is larger plane and have larger and more sophisticated defensive electronics, just look at its large tail boom. It is designed for strike role.

    - Its not that bigger cozz Su-34 is being develop from the same "base" as Su-35

    - Meaning its range/combat radius is similar as max loaded weight and hard points.

    - Same ECM of any type can be installed on Su-35 also so I dont se the point?

    - What about tail boom?


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    Post  Viktor Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:43 pm

    GarryB wrote:Have you ever been on a long distance bus ride?

    It is tiring... even with stops every few hours to buy something at a cafe and stretch the legs.

    The simple fact is that the ability to stand up and stretch or go to the toilet on an 8 hour mission is about as valuable as an ejection seat... you don't plan to need it but when it is available you thank the designers for it.

    Imagine sitting on your a$$ for 4 hours in the same seat and then having to go into combat... needing to go to the toilet is bad enough on a bus but in a plane pulling gs it can cause damage.

    True but that would be the only reason for constructing whole new plane?

    One of the reasons for Su-27 being legendary is its range but still pilots as in many other planes site one after other.

    Other argument I read is its air-to-ground optimised role but still Su-34 is not using any different armaments than that of the Su-35 and Irbis is just as good at finding targets at ground as Su-34 radar.

    I have read something about Su-34 being initially developed to carry mystical Alfa missile and as in Soviet times new planes would get new missiles and etc would make Su-34 cold war mentality development program. Now we have mostly multirole fighters and few special role designed fighters being more economical.

    Only way I can think of Su-34 being useful is make it export naval strike plane as it can carry three Yakhont missiles witch is two more than Su-30MKI (Super30) will be able to carry and that would pack quite a punch. As for Russi modernised Tu-22M3 (M5 or some other number) would be more suitable given its size and Tu-22M3 range.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:25 am

    The Su-34 isn't a whole new plane, but it is a significant modification of a large and efficient design.

    The much wider forward fuselage means the hump back and much more internal volume for equipment, while the nose has ample space for a much larger radar antenna array.

    The difference with the Su-35 is significant, yet it retains many of the same attributes and is similar enough to share a lot of the same systems which benefits logistics and maintainence.

    The Su-27 does have excellent flight range... for the vast majority of normal missions it flys with most of its internal fuel tanks empty because the extra fuel is not needed and becomes dead weight if you carry it around with you.

    The Su-34 is based on the same aircraft as the Su-35 and therefore anything that is cleared for use with the Su-34 will also be cleared or could be cleared for use with the Su-35.

    The point is that an Su-35 is a fighter and an air superiority aircraft... if you have it flying around with 1,500kg KAB-1500 bombs and Kh-59MK long range missiles that is going to effect its ability to use an air to air armament as a fighter.

    The concept of using an aircraft with a range of weapons just in case a threat pops up is just silly. Aircraft weapons have a rail life... you can store an R-73 for 10-20 years in storage, but after 30 hours on a rail you need maintainence to make sure it still works properly. You don't fly around with live weapons just in case you might need them, you load up what you need for your mission, which means for an Su-34 air to ground weapons plus a few self defence AAMs and jamming pods, and for an Su-35 that means AAMs or perhaps in a SEAD role some ARMs and some jamming pods plus a few LGBs or satellite guided bombs.

    Only way I can think of Su-34 being useful is make it export naval strike plane as it can carry three Yakhont missiles witch is two more than Su-30MKI (Super30) will be able to carry and that would pack quite a punch. As for Russi modernised Tu-22M3 (M5 or some other number) would be more suitable given its size and Tu-22M3 range.

    Lets put it in terms of replacements.

    The Su-34 replaces the Su-24, the Su-35 replaces the Su-27, and a Tu-22M5 replaces a Tu-22M3.

    Multirole aircraft are nice on paper, but operationally the Russian AF has strike regiments, fighter regiments, and bomber regiments.

    With a large tanker force you could probably replace the Su-34, and the Tu-22M3 with Su-35s, but you will still have strike and fighter and bomber regiments... an Su-35 will not be as good as an Su-34 in the strike role as the Su-34 has a lot of dedicated equipment internally for very long range strike missions. The Su-35 will be fine for fighter missions, but for Bomber missions it wont have the 2,000km attack radius with 24 tons of bombs that a Tu-22M3 already has. With a few minor upgrades that range could be increased and most importantly those 24 tons of dumb bombs can be upgraded to a range of guided munitions and missiles including GLONASS guided weapons.

    The Su-30 has plenty of growth potential left, you could revise the shape and design to improve stealth performance and add electronic gadgets too, but I think the Russian military is happy with the choices it has made so far... though I am sure they would be much happier if the Su-34 was being produced at a higher rate and if the Su-35 was in production too.
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    Post  TR1 Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:35 am

    Six new Su-34s to be handed over any day now. Some of them are in the new grey scheme....and there is a chance these may have the new canopy.
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    Post  TheArmenian Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:30 pm

    All six were delivered today according to www.lenta.ru
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    Post  TR1 Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:38 pm



    Damn. Bad weather delayed transfer from Novosibirsk to Voronezh, until Monday.


    Must have been some weather conditions to stop an all weather plane.

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