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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:27 pm

    The strikes on Ukraine have an interesting pattern

    1) Kharkov was de-energized

    2) Dneprogres was destroyed, depriving Ukraine of a chance to flood the Dnieper downstream

    3) Galicia and Lvov get pummeled striking gas storage, and critical infrastructure

    This is all timed with Russian advances in Orlovka, Tonenke, Krasnoye (Ivanovskoye)

    And a Dnepr flotilla that was created

    In the meanwhile Ukraine has created a loud propaganda narrative with belgorod suicide rushes, Mass shooting, and Navalnys murder

    But what is interesting is that the missile strikes aren't necessarily a response to any of Ukraines propaganda attacks

    This is timed with more or less a concerted effort to deprive Ukraine of control over its vital infrastructure as the Frontline keeps cracking

    We also await coming operations in Sumy, Chernigov, and Kharkov

    Where Ukraine is evacuating citizens in preparation for the expansion of DMZ into the North East territories

    It's believable considering Ukraine has thrown a whole brigade at Belgorod, and they were destroyed jn a matter of 3 days...

    Meaning whatever is lurking by Belgorod has mass, and firepower


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    Post  Arrow Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:36 pm

    We also await coming operations in Sumy, Chernigov, and Kharkov wrote:

    There will be no operation on Sumy, etc. Russia has too few forces to launch another attack. There will be no major offensive, apart from micro-offensives, i.e. taking weeks to capture a small village.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:47 pm

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    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are warning about the preparation of a Russian air strike group of 14 Tu-95MS strategic bombers, 12 Tu-22M3 long-range bombers and 12(!) MiG-31K for a powerful missile strike
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:54 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Eugenio Argentina wrote:I see that there are many here who like to criticize others for what they publish, but they do not take the trouble to read carefully, since I see that they are repeating things published by me a few minutes ago.

    Shocked

    Nobody reads your bullshit spam with dogshit telegram links



    You should be more respectful, instead of writing like a rude person.
    Besides, it is not span, since I take the trouble to read what I publish first.
    Do not think that I have a low level of understanding, like the one you reflect, with your crude way of expressing yourself.

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    Post  Hole Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:56 pm

    Oh well better luck next time
    My sarcasm-o-meter burned through.  lol1

    I just love his trolling
    Turning more and more into reality.

    Russia has too few forces to launch another attack.
    Are you drunk?
    There are some 500.000+ soldiers that are currently not used in the theater of operations.
    Without conscripts or Rosgvardija.

    The first attack, that took 20% of the territory back in 2022, had some 120.000 men.
    That was before 1+ million Ukro fighters left the conversation forever.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:02 pm

    Are you drunk? There are some 500.000+ soldiers that are currently not used in the theater of operations. Without conscripts or Rosgvardija. The first attack, that took 20% of the territory back in 2022, had some 120.000 men. That was before 1+ million Ukro fighters left the conversation forever. wrote:

    They have 500k in Ukraine. Not all units fight. A large part of it is logistics, etc. This is still far too little for the large offensives that Arkangelsk has been announcing for almost 2 years.

    The Russians captured 20% of the territory by making quick raids deep into the territory, without securing the area, etc. Losing a lot of forces. They had to withdraw from part of the territory and now they control about 13% of Ukraine's territory. Currently, even with 600k forces, they are not able to make any major offensives or strategic breakthroughs.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:03 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:
    Stalin was not as bad as he is made out to.

    Stalin had one thing going for him. He let the generals run the war instead of trying to a great war hero like Hitler.

    But Stalin made lots of crucial mistakes before the war. He had too many of his best officers either killed or imprisoned due to his paranoia and on the other hand he was naive towards Nazi Germany.

    It should have been the other way around. He should have trusted his officers while being suspicious (or even paranoid) towards Nazi Germany.

    This cost the Soviet Union lot in 1941.
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:06 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    They have 500k in Ukraine. Not all units fight. A large part of it is logistics, etc. This is still far too little for the large offensives that Arkangelsk has been announcing for almost 2 years.

    The Russians captured 20% of the territory by making quick raids deep into the territory, without securing the area, etc. Losing a lot of forces. They had to withdraw from part of the territory and now they control about 13% of Ukraine's territory. Currently, even with 600k forces, they are not able to make any major offensives or strategic breakthroughs.

    You are full of shit its funny.

    No, Russia has about 150K troops in Ukraine. 300K are sitting at the border still.

    I have no idea where you got that 500K in Ukraine from. My guess is you made it up, as usual.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:11 pm

    I have no idea where you got that 500K in Ukraine from. My guess is you made it up, as usual. wrote:

    Even the Russians quoted this number. You certainly know better than the Russians, don't you?
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    Post  Isos Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:23 pm

    1 soldier at front, 1 at training and 1 wainting to replace the 1st one.

    150k in ukraine means another 300k behind them. You have at least 450k troops involved in the operation if the 150 inside ukraine are fighting.

    But to be honnest looking at the video they share, I doubt they have 150k troops fighting. Most likely a few tens of thousands because they are on defensive position and have an advantage in anything so they don't need that many fighting forces.

    Their actual strategy is working fine. Ukro keep sending forces and loosing huge amount of people. Russians just bomb their defensive positions with guided bombs and take villages here and there to oblige the ukros to not seat in trenches and try to push.

    Real danger is always the suicide drones that can destroy any russian vehicle unoticed. Jamming isn't enough yet to counter them. It's a reason why they don't make hige attack but focus on smaller ones.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:39 pm

    With the issue of Russian strategy and deployed forces, we all get information from the same sides. Namely, accounts on the different networks, of ordinary people like us.
    So we can only make firm assumptions, about the proven facts, after they happened.
    The rest is pure speculation.


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    Post  thegopnik Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:46 pm

    -Despite getting sanctioned to death placed as 5th biggest economy.
    -Establishing a presence in Africa kicking the French out.
    -Ukraine I think is the 2nd biggest european country behind Russia so starting businesses their will boost Russias economy.
    -Poland and Ukraine economy will sink without profiting from transit fees when NordStream 2 re-opens. If Ukraine gets demilitarized it will be hard to come up with an excuse to blow it up again because Ukraine is done for, can't blame it on Moldavian terrorists if they will be future NATO members, so which non-NATO country will be used as an excuse to blow it up? Dont want it to be known publicly that your own NATO allies are attacking you,
    -Still conducting expeditions in the arctic.
    -Successfully managed or managing manufacturing their own products without reliance from others

    They will basically be revitalized as a super power that will be connected to Europe, Asia and the middle east. I have a bad feeling that some nuclear detonation or a nuclear reactor attack fallout will occur from the west as a last-ditch effort to prevent another Rome rising.

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    Post  Hole Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:48 pm

    I have no idea where you got that 500K in Ukraine from. 
    Ukros claimed there were 600.000 Russian troops active in the SMO zone.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:48 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Even the Russians quoted this number. You certainly know better than the Russians, don't you?

    Binkov battleground is getting to you i see

    Let me give you a refresher

    When the war started Russian ground forces were 360k, with 100k being conscripts

    You add rosgvardiya, 100k, and then LDNR of 40k

    You get 360+100+40 = 500k troops from 2022 to 2023

    Then there was a mobilization for 300k troops

    So we arrive to 800k

    From that point on for 18 months+, Russia has had 30k volunteers signing up a month

    For a round total of 540k troops

    800k + 540k = 1.34 million troops

    Let's deduct 150k casualties (dead and wounded) and let us remove 100k conscripts

    1.34 million - 250k = 1.09 million troops

    Of that amount do you seriously think they are all committed to the theater of operations?

    There are more than half a million Russian troops available for combat operations that perform rotations and assist in the rear

    Stop your binkov level analysis, it makes you look dumb
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:50 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Even the Russians quoted this number. You certainly know better than the Russians, don't you?

    Who?

    Because the president of the country of Russia said 10% of its forces are in Ukraine fighting.

    @Arch

    Russia lost roughly 40K at best as per independent sources.

    That said, if he gets his facts from some retard using a sock puppet, then there isn't much to discuss.

    Hole wrote:
    I have no idea where you got that 500K in Ukraine from. 
    Ukros claimed there were 600.000 Russian troops active in the SMO zone.

    Yeah, and Ukraine is a great source of information [/sarcasm]

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    Post  dionis Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:55 pm

    Sepheronx - you're wrong here man.

    https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-says-617-000-russian-servicemen-deployed-in-ukraine-a8d11a5f

    Putin himself said 617K in Ukraine in Dec 2023.


    From what we're seeing here Russia likely doesn't have much more forces in Belarus, or near Sumy or Kharkov. Certainly not enough to take launch any major offensive. Otherwise they wouldn't sit around and let Belgorod get shelled the way it is daily now.
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:09 am

    It is reported about the arrival of "Gerani" and air defense work in Odessa, in particular in the Kominternovsky district, in the area of ​​Novaya Olshanka and Ivanovo. Most areas are currently without electricity.

    Explosions are also heard in populated areas of the Belgorod-Dnestrovsky and Nerubayskoye regions.

    military informant


    https://t.me/milinfolive/119069

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:10 am

    dionis wrote:Sepheronx - you're wrong here man.

    https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-says-617-000-russian-servicemen-deployed-in-ukraine-a8d11a5f

    Putin himself said 617K in Ukraine in Dec 2023.


    From what we're seeing here Russia likely doesn't have much more forces in Belarus, or near Sumy or Kharkov. Certainly not enough to take launch any major offensive. Otherwise they wouldn't sit around and let Belgorod get shelled the way it is daily now.

    That is throughout the war

    That means those troops have been rotated through Ukraine

    Right now Russia and Ukraine have parity as far as numbers on the Frontline with Russia having a slight advantage in numbers now

    But the difference is Ukraine has dragged most of its above 25 year old population through war already , and there's noone left to fight

    While Russia still has a big force currently sitting in the rear

    If you look at a map the surovikin line extends all the way there and north of Belgorod too

    There are troops there manning the lines

    And they are what destroyed RDK/VSU offensive in 3 days

    The reason Russian troops haven't moved yet, was because it was still an attrition strategy for most of the year including Avdeyevka

    They were striking at distance and just grinding Ukraine down

    But these events change things,  and we see Ukraine evacuating Sumy and Chernigov, Kupyansk and Kharkov

    And numerous western warnings about a coming offensive

    Not to mention increasing panic on the west side that Russia will roll, which is why NATO switched from non intervention to a talk of intervention so suddenly

    Their intelligence is revealing a different picture than the propaganda they spin

    Russia is waiting for Rasputitsa to dry

    Then as Putin himself said, the need for a DMZ is obvious to the whole country

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:18 am

    dionis wrote:Sepheronx - you're wrong here man.

    https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-says-617-000-russian-servicemen-deployed-in-ukraine-a8d11a5f

    Putin himself said 617K in Ukraine in Dec 2023.


    From what we're seeing here Russia likely doesn't have much more forces in Belarus, or near Sumy or Kharkov. Certainly not enough to take launch any major offensive. Otherwise they wouldn't sit around and let Belgorod get shelled the way it is daily now.

    Did you even read the article?  Quoting US numbers and all.

    Care to share a Russian link with the direct quote from Putin?

    If Russia had even remotely that amount of forces in Ukraine right now, they would have rolled to Odessa by now. Ukraine doesn't even remotely have enough men currently and that is why they are shitting bricks.

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    Post  dionis Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:25 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    dionis wrote:Sepheronx - you're wrong here man.

    https://www.barrons.com/news/putin-says-617-000-russian-servicemen-deployed-in-ukraine-a8d11a5f

    Putin himself said 617K in Ukraine in Dec 2023.


    From what we're seeing here Russia likely doesn't have much more forces in Belarus, or near Sumy or Kharkov. Certainly not enough to take launch any major offensive. Otherwise they wouldn't sit around and let Belgorod get shelled the way it is daily now.

    Did you even read the article?  Quoting US numbers and all.

    Care to share a Russian link with the direct quote from Putin?

    If Russia had even remotely that amount of forces in Ukraine right now, they would have rolled to Odessa by now.  Ukraine doesn't even remotely have enough men currently and that is why they are shitting bricks.

    Holy shit, dude. You really are reaching.

    https://vk.com/video-72009603_456263865?ysclid=lu65btq5g1102183033

    And no, Arkhangelsk, he said they are in the SMO zone. "Nahodyatsa"

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:31 am

    So these 600,000 are fighting less than 200,000 Ukrs?

    GTFO.

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    Post  franco Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:54 am

    Hole wrote:
    I have no idea where you got that 500K in Ukraine from. 
    Ukros claimed there were 600.000 Russian troops active in the SMO zone.

    Putin said so too!
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    Post  sepheronx Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:00 am

    I admit I am wrong.

    But I find it also interesting though that 600K troops are just...sitting there doing nothing.  With that many forces against what Ukraine has, they could roll over remainder of Ukraine rather easily. And only around 40K dead or injured, Russian forces are massive in the area. What exactly are they waiting for? especially in Kharkov?
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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:14 am

    As the report says, the missile entered Polish airspace near the city of Oserdów, stayed there for 39 seconds and returned back to the Lviv region.

    This is not the first incident with Russian missiles flying into Poland. They are usually associated with navigation errors in missiles whose flight routes lie right near the borders to bypass Ukrainian air defense areas.

    Maybe the people planning the attacks and mapping out the attack routes accidentally used new maps...  Twisted Evil

    After terrorist attacker in Moscow Ukraine didn’t sleep on laurels.

    Against US advice, they attacked refineries, they hit civilians in Belgorod, Sevastopol was hit too. What new can I say? Everything is clear what needs to be done

    Of course publicly the US are saying they are advising against attacks on civilians and terrorism, but they wont actually do anything to stop them like withhold funds or weapons or ammo, so they are as much to blame as their attack dog.

    It almost sounds like the US is saying... we can't control them... so you need to put them down for us...

    This is all driven and enabled by the west... don't ever forget that.


    I noticed that they literally waited for this guy to get re-elected before launching this terrorist attack.

    He is the biggest secret ally of the Ukrainians.

    You are right in the sense that attacking now is too late to damage Putin, but I suspect it has more to do with security being too tight when they wanted to mount the attack... they knew more armed men would be around to stop them, which cowards wanting to go on shooting sprees avoid as much as they can.


    So many Russians voted for him; they either have no brains or the election results were falsified.

    American officials were present and they stated that it was more free and fair and open than any election the US has ever had.

    There were cameras at polling booths and cameras during the counting. All posting to the internet in a live stream.

    They visited 24 polling stations on the day chosen by them at random and they saw no bullying or pressure at all.

    And opinion polls before the election showed 85-90 percent approval of Putin... when you have 85-90% approval you don't need to fix any results at all.

    The west has made him popular and as powerful as he is.

    The west dropping the mask and showing the sharks teeth probably gets him an extra 20% of votes but most are likely to vote for him anyway... the second best candidate are the communists.

    Zhyuganov, the former leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, has repeatedly accused Putin of cheating at the presidential elections in the past.

    He has to say they are cheating to explain why the three alternative parties each get less than 5% of the vote.


    Putin might be the worst leader in Russian history. Worse than Yeltsin and Gorbachev. And that is saying a lot.

    Gorby was never president of Russia, he was the leader of the Soviet Union.

    Yeltsin was a drunk that sold Russia out like EU country leaders sell out Europe to the US.

    The only leader comparable to Putin in terms of pulling Russia up out of the dirt was Stalin and Putin simply does not have the body count that Stalin had... but if you listen to the west the pair of them has murdered the entire world population twice...

    The Romanovs weren't Germans, they stem from old Russian nobles (boyars).

    Are you expecting him to get anything right regarding Russian history. He seems to have learned it all from Mein Kampf.

    1. I actually do agree with you about Stalin, remember most of the body count was terribly inflated by US intel organs in the aftermath of GPW. Even western historians such as Stephen Kotkin put Stalin's body count at around 9 million. Most of those deaths came about during collectivization and oddly the worst off republic during the famines was Ukrai . . . . made you look, it was Kazakhstan,, and the death count from the famines of the early 30s was about 6 millions. The last famine in Russian history, which occured just after GPW cost about another million souls. The purges? About 1 million. Now 9 million souls is a tragedy. On the other hand he turned a mostly agrarian state into an industrialized superpower.

    But if that is the case then the monarchy of England has a horrible body count too... during the 1930s there were famines in most places and you could argue that the west demanding payments from Russia to be in grain probably contributed to the lack of food... but lets just claim Stalin did it all on purpose.

    Many land owners would hide food or even destroy food to prevent the government from taking it to distribute it to others... any major change in the agriculture industry can cause problems and shortages including shifts in transport and storage needs that change too fast for there not to be massive waste and shortages.

    2. Rurik was Finnish.

    Fins are just Swedish Russians aren't they...  Twisted Evil

    Most of Europe will be joining the Russian federation soon... just to bail out their collapsing economies and to get away from increasingly stupid EU rules.

    Nobody reads your bullshit spam with dogshit telegram links

    Lighten up PD... and everyone else...

    They had to withdraw from part of the territory and now they control about 13% of Ukraine's territory.

    They didn't have to, there was a peace agreement which required them to withdraw... which Kiev reneged upon.

    It did massively reduce the area they had to hold so it turned out to be a good thing for Russia anyway as there was no real intention to attack Kiev and take it.

    Currently, even with 600k forces, they are not able to make any major offensives or strategic breakthroughs.

    A couple of things to point out... first that they have 600K forces trained and equipped and with weapons and ammo to use, second the fact that they have not mounted any major offensives is their choice... it doesn't mean they can't and it certainly doesn't mean they wont.

    Russia has its force ready and trained and equipped... Kievs army is broken and being thrown against a small part of the Russian forces that are not just holding the line but are gradually moving forward. Kievs army lacks men and ammo and weapons and is losing more men and ammo and weapons every day.

    Do you not understand that there is no ammo and no weapons to send to them that would make any difference, and sending in a million conscripts wont make any difference either because they wont have any training and will be totally useless except to throw at the Russian lines like marshmellows onto a fire...


    This cost the Soviet Union lot in 1941.

    Most of the countries that took on Germany before 1941 lost everything, or had to run away. The Soviets were the only continental European power that fought back and kept fighting till they won. The UK ran and hid on their island and all the other European countries gave up or even joined the nazis.

    Including countries like the Baltic states and parts of the Ukraine.

    But I find it also interesting though that 600K troops are just...sitting there doing nothing.

    Would include troops in Crimea, and he didn't say they were all on the front line or that they were even fighting.

    I have seen videos of Russian positions dug underground where fuel is stored underground and ammo is stored underground largely safe from enemy attack.

    I would say 600K troops are not all carrying a rifle on the front line, the amount of logistics and support forces would be enormous for a modern army.

    As Ark mentions they have been rotating men in and out of the conflict zone to give the fighters rest and to give the others experience...

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    would be awful if a drone were to deviate from its intended target and this Nazi bar became a char bar:

    Ukrainian bar mocks deadly Moscow concert hall attack https://www.rt.com/russia/594828-kiev-bar-moscow-massacre/

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