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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:09 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Given the cone of shot, that might be good for very close in work on a vehicle (that has some protection from falling debris) but surely a much longer barrel, like the one in my video, would be better for more general use?

    The longer barrel would give better reach, which is more use when a person is swinging it around because you can hit and damage things at greater distances, so you can start shooting before they get so close their explosive might hurt you anyway, but for this sort of stationary mount it is more likely to be defending a vehicle or position, and while it probably swings round quite quickly some FPVs will get very close before you get the muzzle pointed at them... so the longer barrel would be a disadvantage.

    A long barrel shotgun with a choke might spread its pellets or shot over an area the size of your hand at 5 metres... the advantage of the longer barrel is that all the buckshot will be inside a 1m circle at 20m range.... which means 12-16 ball bearings similar to a light 9mm round randomly scattered over that area... against a human sized targets and you will get some hits.

    Just make me remember this video, in which the MC briefed about civillian long barrel bird hunting firearms temporarily displace combat shotgun in Ukraina due to the issues about anti-drone warfare.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TO_-ownZ3y8

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    Post  lancelot Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:01 am

    GarryB wrote:This is at the core of the entire situation.. the IAEA is corrupt and controlled by the west and serves the western interests over human interests...
    ...
    BRICS needs to create an alternative that is independent of any country.
    Brazil has historically had all sorts of problems with them. They wanted to inspect Brazil's uranium centrifuges supposedly for "proliferation concerns". Brazil refused to do this because it was their home grown centrifuge design. The data from the inspections could then be used by the the West to copy their centrifuge design without license.

    Brazil has wanted its own civilian nuclear reactor designs and nuclear submarines since the period of the military dictatorship. All the Brazilian governments, left or right, since the return to democracy have supported the program to different degrees. Brazil sought the civilian reactor technology from Germany, and then they collaborated on submarines with France. Supposedly with their own native reactor. But the Brazilian nuclear program progress is glacial.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:06 am

    Gerans striking in the middle of Kiev, in daylight, with no countermeasures at all.

    https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/107198

    Targeting UkrEnergo buildings.

    They are making a propaganda materials how two combined Maxim guns with manual aim on tachanka are Wunderwaffe against the drones. With serious faces What a Face Shocked respekt

    And there was an interesting comment regarding Patriot missile stocks.
    There are none left, worldwide.
    Germany is playing Gooffy to find an alternative surplus after announcing that they have none left.
    Concerning the US orders in the last decade, the only missiles out there are the ones loaded on the US batteries.
    Plus some minimal warehouse stock in the US that won't be shared for a clear reasons.
    To find any missiles for 404, they would have to take them from operational batteries, as part of the existing 60 of them are in periodic overhaul.
    Even if there would have been any extra orders for missiles - those will be produced in a year period only.
    This thing is starting to be some sort of soap opera if you ask me.

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    Destruction of 32 D-20 howitzers at the Ukrainian Armed Forces parking lot by an OTRK strike in the area of the settlement. Okhtyrka Sumy region.

    There have been some comments how it is possible that so many guns are out there after 2+ years, but there is an easy answer.
    Those were gathered for repair/restoration.
    It seems Russkie waited till the square was full, not to waste a good missile Laughing


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    Post  lancelot Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:12 am

    ALAMO wrote:Gerans striking in the middle of Kiev, in daylight, with no countermeasures at ...
    Targeting UkrEnergo buildings.
    Another perfect Ukrainian interception as usual. Another Geran drone perfectly intercepted by the target. yes sir

    Remember, Ukraine does not have enough air defense close to Kharkiv because they have their impenetrable air defense in Kiev.

    ALAMO wrote:And there was an interesting comment regarding Patriot missile stocks.
    There are none left, worldwide.
    Germany is playing Gooffy to find an alternative surplus after announcing that they have none left.
    Concerning the US orders in the last decade, the only missiles out there are the ones loaded on the US batteries.
    Plus some minimal warehouse stock in the US that won't be shared for a clear reasons.
    I guess they could jury rig a system that uses US naval SAMs. Assuming they have any left after intercepting Houti drones 100x cheaper than the missiles.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:20 am

    That is why all the strategic enterprises, warehouses and energy production is gathered in Kiev, covered by an impenetrable umbrella of supa dupa western missiles.
    What can go wrong?scratch
    Laughing  

    By the way, some reports revealed that FABs hit some targets in Kiev itself. All the AD seems to fall apart.

    Wonder when we will spot FAB3000 being dropped, as serial production was confirmed ...

    There is an interesting observation with POW interrogation on the spot lately.
    Sometimes you can guess the scale of resistance by the way the dialogues are being carried.
    Lately, I can hardly remember any of them being harsh, suggesting that they had hard times to storm the positions.
    POWs are usually wounded, on their last breath, surrounded by dead bodies of comrades.
    Positions are devastated - in one of the films revealed yesterday there is a dud FAB250 next by, suggesting that the guys had an enormous luck.
    A lots of films where Russian soldiers just record piles of bodies, with comments about "resting comrades who haven't listen to advice to raise the hands up" ...

    Edit : Cocainsky visited Charkov ...


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    Everyone remembers how it ended for the other cities he visited, right? Laughing

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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:04 am

    New stuff just recently arrived by the sound of it.
    Those light weapons are not an issue for Banderaland.
    This is like putting a band aid on an open chest wound.

    With serious faces
    Delivery of good drugs seems not to be a problem.  lol1

    There are none left, worldwide.
    Looking at all the shite happening in occupied Palestine and the surrounding area
    I highly doubt that the Israeli regime will deliver some "Iron Sheikh" systems.

    It seems Russkie waited till the square was full, not to waste a good missile
    Missile was unpacked and ready. Expiring date was close...

    Another Geran drone perfectly intercepted by the target.
    Either the russian missiles/drones are much better than the western MSM makes us believe ( Rolling Eyes),
    or the Ukros invented moving buildings so that the incoming object can be "destroyed".  lol1

    does not have enough air defense close to Kharkiv because they have their impenetrable air defense in Kiev.
    Now the propaganda will claim all the good stuff went to the frontline or to Odessa.

    Wonder when we will spot FAB3000 being dropped
    bounce bounce bounce


    Took a look at the turtle tank again.
    Remember? That tank with the big metal hoddy against drones.
    Gun can only move in the frontal area.
    Maybe it would be better to bring back some real assault guns.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:30 am

    ALAMO wrote:

    And there was an interesting comment regarding Patriot missile stocks.
    There are none left, worldwide.
    Germany is playing Gooffy to find an alternative surplus after announcing that they have none left.

    Every non NATO SAM user should be emptying their stocks of Western SAMs ready to replace them with Russian products when this is over. Or Iranian SAM perhaps.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:39 am

    Hole wrote:
    Maybe it would be better to bring back some real assault guns.

    Whilst I don't think the gun is very important, a much smaller one like a Terminator would do, I can imagine that tank designers around the world are now beavering away on new tank like designs leading to probably an entirely new class of machine. Perhaps a tank in a Kevlar bubble?
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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:02 pm

    I find these articles pure comedy. "sell" being the funny word, Ukraine has no economy, has no reserves, and relies entirely on the west to keep it afloat, if it wasn't for the west Ukrainian troops, public services, politicians, hospitals, schools, and pensions to name just a few wouldn't be paid unless they received handouts from the west so when you  read articles of Ukraine buying military equipment it's just pure comedy. By the time these systems are delivered if they ever do get delivered Donbass, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Kharkiv will be taken lol!



    The United States will sell Ukraine up to $138 million worth of equipment to maintain and upgrade its HAWK air defense systems to help defend against Russian drone and cruise missile attacks, a U.S. State Department official told Reuters on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-sell-missile-defense-upgrades-ukraine-2024-04-09/

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:10 pm

    @Garry: regarding the freedom of expressions

    https://www.rt.com/russia/595662-ukraine-olympic-athletes-conduct/

    Ukraine to ban Olympic athletes from talking to Russians
    The competitors will also be discouraged from taking photos with them, giving joint interviews, shaking hands, and more


    "Do not congratulate each other, of course, do not stand up for any mass photos, do not give joint interviews, of course, do not shake hands."

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:14 pm

    Do you know any other country in human history actively advertise its own secretive counter-offensive plan to the whole world like advertising a commercial good ?

    https://www.rt.com/russia/595679-ukraine-new-counteroffensive-zelensky/

    Zelensky reveals new counteroffensive plans

    Western military technology can help Ukraine beat Russia, the president believes

    Kiev already has a plan for a new counteroffensive against Russia, Zelensky said, indicating that it depends on the US resuming military assistance to his country and the West in general helping Ukraine ramp up domestic military production.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:15 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Maybe it would be better to bring back some real assault guns.

    Whilst I don't think the gun is very important, a much smaller one like a Terminator would do, I can imagine that tank designers around the world are now beavering away on new tank like designs leading to probably an entirely new class of machine. Perhaps a tank in a Kevlar bubble?

    Peru apparently plan to convert their T-55 into a terminator type vehicle which Russia doing the upgrade. With the bmpt turret most likely being lighter than the T-55 turret the weight saving could be used to add additional armour plates to the T-55 body. Cheap upgrade on a reliable chassis. The Turk/Indo made a light/medium tank, and china also has one, the chassis could be used as a basis and then sell the bmpt turret to them. We also saw Algeria convert it's old T-62 with a Berezhok turret, not quite bmpt level but similar concept. Old T-54/55, T-62, T-64, T-72 if already in your inventory would be ideal candidates for a bmpt upgrade. Russia and Belarus could easily adapt these vehicles to be armed with such a turret.

    Anyway I think if we continue this topic it should be moved to relevant thread although it's interesting.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 pm

    https://www.rt.com/news/595686-us-drones-ukraine-wsj/

    US drones faring poorly in Ukraine conflict – WSJ

    Smaller American products aimed for military use are too expensive and vulnerable to electronic warfare

    The Ukraine conflict has seen the widespread use of small expandable unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) for reconnaissance, as well as for dropping small explosives and serving as loitering munitions. US products have proved unsatisfactory, however, forcing Kiev to rely on Chinese models instead, the WSJ reported on Tuesday.

    “The general reputation for every class of US drone in Ukraine is that they don’t work as well as other systems,” Adam Bry, CEO of drone maker Skydio, told the newspaper. He admitted his own company’s products are “not a very successful platform on the front lines.”

    Even some of the drones that the Pentagon has deemed fit for American soldiers have not fared well in the conflict, according to the report. The list of problematic weapons mentioned by the WSJ included AeroVironment Switchblade 300 loitering munitions, Velos Rotors V3 helicopter drones, and UAVs made by Cyberlux.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:34 pm


    “The general reputation for every class of US drone in Ukraine is that they don’t work as well as other systems,” Adam Bry, CEO of drone maker Skydio,

    Not just drones but most of the products the West, as its not just the US, have shipped seem to fall into that category.

    They would bleat in their defence that its not their latest stuff in Ukraine but I can't see how even that would be good enough. An awful lot will be going back to the drawing board but with little money now left to pay for rearmament.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:50 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    The United States will sell Ukraine up to $138 million worth of equipment to maintain and upgrade its HAWK air defense systems to help defend against Russian drone and cruise missile attacks, a U.S. State Department official told Reuters on Tuesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-sell-missile-defense-upgrades-ukraine-2024-04-09/

    A bit more. Clearly a fair amount of work is involved, could take months especially as the Hawk Phase III was fielded by US forces in 1989, whilst the original Hawk design is from the late 1950s/early 1960s.

    Another case of clearing out the warehouses/other stocks to make room for newer stuff.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:26 pm

    They are just bypassing the Congress this way.
    404 won't return anything, money will be deduced from any existing tranche of next allowances.
    Let it be IMF, or European ...

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:46 pm

    Perfect, hit it with a train in place must seriously increase repair time.

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    Post  Hole Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:30 pm

    Whilst I don't think the gun is very important, a much smaller one like a Terminator would do
    The new 57mm auto cannon should do the job most of the time.

    "Do not congratulate each other, of course, do not stand up for any mass photos, do not give joint interviews, of course, do not shake hands."
    Typical Nazi behavior. Don´t touch or talk to Untermenschen!

    Western military technology
    As shown in their last attempt of an "offensive".  lol1 lol1 lol1

    Let it be IMF, or European ...
    As Mr. "Anyway" Mercouris stated in one of the last Duran videos, EU states could lend the money to buy stuff,
    but their is nothing to buy anymore. Stockpiles are down. The whole frozen money thing is just a distraction
    from that unpleasant fact.

    Perfect, hit it with a train in place must seriously increase repair time.
    Slight delays, folks.  lol1

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:08 pm

    Hole wrote:
    As Mr. "Anyway" Mercouris stated in one of the last Duran videos, EU states could lend the money to buy stuff,
    but their is nothing to buy anymore. Stockpiles are down. The whole frozen money thing is just a distraction
    from that unpleasant fact.

    I can't stand the guy Laughing but whatever ... Laughing Laughing
    It is what I have said a while ago.
    They can print any amount of empty notes, or add zeros to monetary base.
    Increase credit rating to AAAAA+SUPADUPA.
    It won't change a single thing - they don't have an industry anymore.
    Folks, let's be serious.
    This war is going for 2+ years.
    In Soviet times, they have repatriated a whole of heavy industry to the Urals, and the first tanks were rolling out of the open space in HALF A YEAR.
    The West has no capacity and depth.
    Nobody left to men a night shift at the production line.
    Problems are there even for men the day one!
    This gap will only increase.
    Not sure if you have noticed that, but the last week brought us a hilarious things.
    Deputy TresDep was there in China, to tell them that they should cut the production - because Murica doesn't like how they are much more productive and competitive!
    Free market, fools!
    She runned away from China with big jumps, leaving no tail behind.
    And who followed?
    Yup. Mr. Sergiey Viktorovich.
    Met as a plenipotent of a Tsar himself.
    Read the official Chinese follow-up, and remember that the Chinese are a different culture.
    I do realize a part of it, working with them for more than 15 years.
    What they have said, is unprecedented in Chinese cultural code.
    It is a de facto announcement of an alliance.
    A clear and unconditional.
    Expect more shit coming, as the west in general do have some people with brains in place out there.
    They will be making damage control in the next few months, that's for sure.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:18 pm

    ALAMO wrote:404 won't return anything

    No, they will definetly return it, but in the future, and both the principle and interest. As we can see, the longer the time is, the more interest will be.

    How ? Well, Maidan regime is a puppet regime under control of the West, and the whole country of Ukraina will be enslaved via "investment", "loans", "privatization" and others. And surplus will be brutally extracted like how colonies is treated.

    We already know that the black soil has been eyed by the Western companies. It will not be the only one.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:27 pm

    Yes, that is another approach.
    We can consider that as a long term and risky investment profile.
    Speculation that sooner or later there will be some kind of settlement.
    But I wouldn't bet much on that.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:10 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/videos/1122062249137646/

    Krasnopol-M2 deployed at Avdeevka.

    Programming of this version of the guided ammo is now done by wireless devices. Before that, people have to plug the guiding part of the ammo to the programming devices, hence the firing preparation is time consuming, as people have to attach this guiding part of the ammo to the remaining part of the ammo.

    Now the two part of the ammo are assembled beforehand at the factory, and the preparation before firing is fast and simple.

    Using Orlan-30 drone is the main guiding method for the ammo, which is safer for the scouting soldiers and allow monitoring the target for longer period.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:14 pm

    ALAMO wrote:

    I can't stand the guy Laughing  but whatever ... Laughing Laughing

    Yup. Mr. Sergiey Viktorovich.
    Met as a plenipotent of a Tsar himself.
    Read the official Chinese follow-up, and remember that the Chinese are a different culture.
    I do realize a part of it, working with them for more than 15 years.
    What they have said, is unprecedented in Chinese cultural code.
    It is a de facto announcement of an alliance.
    A clear and unconditional.


    Can't stand him either.

    Did you spot the very warm meeting of Xi and the ex President of Taiwan yesterday? A hint for the future.

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:01 pm

    No I havn't - PM me a link, please.
    Just watched SVL meeting with Xi ...
    It is not a diplomacy anymore.

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