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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #55

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:57 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:
    Ukraine is sending troops to the front with 4 weeks training nevermind 3 months or 6 months

    You are already giving them much of a favor.
    The most ridiculous case revealed - not that there are no better than that - was a guy whose funeral was in 9 days after he was kidnapped from the street.
    Adjust the travel time, and here you have it.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:23 am

    @ug_chelsea
    Something is stopping the Ukrainians from building fortification

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:28 am


    It's nice to be able to watch all these videos from the frontlines and I am very grateful for it but GOOD LORD, THE MUSIC SUCKS DONKEY DICK!!!





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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:32 am

    As for western media slagging off Russia using cheap effective simple methods of protecting against drones etc just remember that while Russia is upgrading it's vehicles to a fit for purpose and cheap methods while the west empty it's warehouses of faulty ammo, and rusty, broken, old vehicles and let's not forget when Germany sent soviet Manpads where 80% of them ended up being completely faulty, then couple this with the westerns admission of the Russians having 10 to 1 fire power, then ask yourself this does zelensky coke habit only extend to him and his inner circle or has it extended to western media? lol! western media is nothing more than comical news, as we say in west, they bend over open their ass and let their belly rumble. That's what we receiving in the west.


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    Post  sepheronx Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:43 am

    It's the practicality of things that is allowed in the Russian armed forces. Of troops being allowed to make adjustments of their own to their equipment. These adjustments then are viewed by others and reported back of effectiveness and the mic then looks to implement it in a more prettier and practical function. Russia learns a lot from what they do, most other forces do not. They just streamline what they initially did and then maybe implement upgrades in bulky, expensive packages and call it something fancy like Mk1, mk2, etc.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:08 am

    TLDR: What is included in the new aid package for Ukraine?

    The majority of the money is going to US MIC companies that will need to put things like Javelin missiles and Patriot missiles and Stingers and other weapons they have almost run completely out of in the US and in Europe and any where else they could grovel or steal to get them back into serial production to replace operational stocks as well as storage units for a potential conflict that might need them.

    The larder is empty and now the US MIC is making billions of dollars to try to replace the stocks... it will probably only take a decade so the job list is full for a while... CEOs will be getting enormous bonuses for the next few years...

    More important, much more, to Biden is that it would affect petrol (gas) prices in the US which hurts his chance of reelection. Any other year he wouldn't give a shit what the peasants paid.

    His chances of reelection are solid because those bills have already been paid I suspect...  Twisted Evil

    And the riots that start if the fix does not work this time around will make things rather messy.

    It's like when I tell my students not to do dumb shit in class

    They go and do dumb shit in class...

    You still have to pretend to be surprised though don't you?


    As for the french troops we'll they know what they are getting themselves in for, most likely iskandered so death will be quick at least and remember that the troops they apparently sent are foreign legion so although they come under french government are technically just another form of mercenaries only difference is they all get to wear silly hats.

    Isn't it ironic that the plan B cannon fodder team is team darkie, while team A are Ukrainian and white. It is proof that Europe is growing and developing that they can make such changes to their psyche to not try to kill off the darkies before the whiteys.

    They want to re-import all the men that fled to the EU.
    That tells you how all you need to know about the fighting.

    Quite a few EU countries were rather hard core about sending Ukrainians home to fight, but they have not been so vocal recently about it...

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:30 am

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    Recently, a news report emerged stating that Ukrainians had hacked a Starlink terminal installed on the Ukrainian drone "Baba Yaga" to bypass territorial restrictions and use the terminal without a subscription fee. To verify the accuracy of this information, we consulted with a UAV specialist to shed light on the situation and explain the methods of hacking.

    The first step is to understand why Ukrainians install a Starlink terminal on the "Baba Yaga" drone. The original method of controlling "Baba Yaga" is through a radio channel, which limits the operator's range and makes the system vulnerable to signal suppression with electronic warfare (EW). Starlink operates at frequencies of 10.7-12.7 and 14-14.5 GHz. Given line-of-sight and close range, using traditional EW complexes and EW rifles becomes impractical since they do not support Starlink's frequencies.

    However, Elon Musk has set specific operational restrictions, including prohibiting terminal speeds over 60 km/h and establishing usage zones. For example, Starlink cannot be used in Russia due to areas where coverage is prohibited. Additionally, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are concerned that Musk might change allowed zones depending on his mood.

    Each Starlink terminal determines its location through an onboard GPS receiver and then connects to the nearest satellites. GPS is also used to register and determine permitted usage zones; likely, GPS is used to determine terminal speed, too. Thus, it makes sense to spoof GPS to bypass all restrictions. On "Baba Yaga," static coordinates are set through a proxy board, allowing the evasion of restrictions on using movable objects in Ukraine. This setup is relatively simple, where the coordinates are retransmitted to trick the system into recognizing the object as stationary.

    There are no confirmed reports of billing hacks. The subscription fee for Starlink is paid by the US military and their allies.

    Source: Военный Осведомитель (Military Informant)

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:33 am

    Top of the range tank blast

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:37 am

    The brainwashing goes deep

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:49 am

    But will it happen?

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    Post  Hole Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:22 am

    Something is stopping the Ukrainians from building fortification
    You mean besides corruption?

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    Post  pavi Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:30 am

    JohninMK wrote:But will it happen?
    “I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine”

    I'm pretty confident that European values show its real face. First, ukrainians are send back to their homeland from Poland, then from Baltics and after that from Finland. (I'm a finn, so I have good hunch of it. Finnish leaders does whatever their masters are saying without any hesitation, doubts or counter arguments, no matter how much it contradicts even constitutional law. The laws can be rewritten within single day, because we do not have real opposition in this country.)
    Masters are already voiced out, that this war shall not lost, so first fighting goes on until last Ukrainian and then comes finns, balts, poles, bulgarians and romanians. Finns & balts are ready to die for. Others I'm not sure, cause I don't have knowledge their internal situation. First troops are send to Ukraine as independent states and then the war spread to these border countries via this intervention. NATO will not take part of this shit directly, but this "coalition of will" will be dragged into war...
    I did resigned from reserve of finnish army this spring which hopefully gives me short time window to escape somewhere over the ocean.

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    Post  crod Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:42 am

    Under EU law (article 19 from memory but it’s been a pretty few years…..), there can be no mass deportation to any country. Furthermore, those from the Ukraine seeking refuge from the conflict under the TPD agreement, until March 2025, all those seeking refuge from within the EU zone will be afforded protection status.
    Poland cannot act outside of the TPD without facing sanction and legal repercussions.
    Whether the TPD is continued beyond this date (and I have it on good sources from ex colleagues within Brussels, that it will be) is a matter of conjecture….of course it may or may not be all wrapped up by then.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:06 pm

    JohninMK wrote:But will it happen?

    I will play a devils advocate role for a moment.
    There is an economic breakdown coming in the EU. All around.
    Mass lay offs already have started in Germany.
    It will directly affect Poland, Czech and Slovakia - all are heavily sensitive to German economy status as export tons of car industry products there.
    If Germany goes down - so will those three, starting with the Czechs.
    In Poland mass layoffs already started as well, and inflict hell of a scope of business - one of the wind energy business I know first hand just halved the staff & almost stopped production.
    Wind energy, imagine - an EU "green deal" beaten dead horse!
    Which means that pretty soon, there can be an enormous hike in unemployment stats, which leads us to a conclusion that Ukro labor becomes more of a pain rather than a gain. Jobs that they are taking will be needed to fight local unemployment.
    Soooo ... it might be a good moment for kicking them out, right?

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    Post  nomadski Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:07 pm

    You mean our father Bandito spooked our mother Ukraine out of wedlock , so that our brave young men must now be forced out of Poland to " fight , " the good fight ! What kind of fighters are they going to get ? Poor kids , feel sorry for them being brainwashed and indoctrinated . Criminals !  angry




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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:06 pm

    Poland is ready to help Ukraine return men of military age - Defense Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysh

    “I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine”

    Poland is ready to help Ukrainian men die fighting Russians because Poles are too scared to actually fight Russians for themselves, so they will send young Ukrainian men to be killed fighting a proxy war that the west started and created because the alternatives would either be peace, which would not weaken Russia, or direct combat with Russian forces which would mean it would be Polish young men being killed for no good reason.

    Do these defence ministers understand these men are being sent to certain death so why not get injured in Poland in a fire fight with those trying to send them to Ukraine instead of going quietly and dying on the front line to artillery and air delivered heavy bombs and of course drones or your own side to stop you from retreating?

    Your survival chances in Polish hospital have to be better than in the mud in Ukraine.

    I'm pretty confident that European values show its real face.

    If HATO nations start officially sending their own troops into Ukraine I am sure the Russian gloves will come off and they will go out of their way to slaughter them brutally... which will immediately result in a change of policy.

    I am surprised no HATO nation has yet come up with the idea that all their illegal migrants could be offered citizenship by going through 6 months of army training and going to Ukraine to fight for a year or two...

    First, ukrainians are send back to their homeland from Poland, then from Baltics and after that from Finland.

    The Ukrainians in the west are rather proactive and I think they will not go quietly. They will understand their best chance of survival is to not go to the Ukraine so other more drastic options become viable alternatives. I rather suspect rioting and protests will happen... this will not be pretty.

    First troops are send to Ukraine as independent states and then the war spread to these border countries via this intervention. NATO will not take part of this shit directly, but this "coalition of will" will be dragged into war...

    What you need is some honest reporting of what is really happening in the Ukraine and I rather suspect the military forces of Europe will vote with their feet so while the politicians might want to send in the troops the sorry state of the European armed forces will call their bluff.

    Under EU law (article 19 from memory but it’s been a pretty few years…..), there can be no mass deportation to any country. Furthermore, those from the Ukraine seeking refuge from the conflict under the TPD agreement, until March 2025, all those seeking refuge from within the EU zone will be afforded protection status.

    EU laws are rules of thumb and can be very very flexible. They can be re written overnight or simply ignored when it suits.

    Even if Kiev could get all the men who left for the west to join the fight you have to wonder if they would fight for Kiev or for the right to survive this total fuckfest.

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