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    Post  ALAMO Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:58 am

    Hole wrote:
    That´s why some of them are still there.
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    All of them, because only the one at Tiergarten was demolished and the rubbles removed. Hippos in the zoo are located at the place now Very Happy
    Two others are left, one as an artificial hill, and the other as a "monument" - this was the one that French tried to blow up, with not much success Laughing
    And nobody dared to touch the ones in Vienna and Hamburg.
    The one in Hamburg can be used as is at St. Pauli Twisted Evil Laughing A lot of beds will fit there What a Face

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:08 pm

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    Here we have the Yurka spectrum analyzer

    It seems there is a case where these items are being delivered to the Frontline in copious amounts, as aftermarket devices

    If necessity is the mother of innovation

    Then the huge necessity to protect Russian soldiers has led to this innovation, which is still in its infancy with regard to drone warfare and EW

    The reason for this is that the main drawback of lesochek and other EW devices is that Ukros are constantly frequency hopping by flashing their devices and programming changes to the signals they use

    The main response is to be able to detect these frequencies, similar to how L-band radar on Su35 can detect transmissions over Link 16, and radar signals from aircraft

    But at the infantry level, current tactics involve the use of spectrum analyzers like Yurka and aftermarket devices, as well as signal generators to detect Ukro signals that range from 2.4 ghz to much higher frequencies that also take advantage of rigged antennas to extend the range of operation

    In all its a very technical science which the EW specialist in the platoon, and others should know about, because if you lose your EW specialist, then you will be exposed to drone strikes

    So right now , while we saw a load of aftermarket devices, the next step will be to implement these at an industrial scale like drones, as their of near equal importance to conduct offensive warfare in modern Era

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    Post  Kiko Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:37 pm

    Russia develops neural network that allows drones to identify NATO equipment in Ukraine, 02.12.2024.

    Russia has created the NAKA universal neural network for drones of all types that allows high-precision detection of enemy equipment in the area of special operation, including Leopard tanks, Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and other vehicles, Aleksei German, general director of the developer company Hardberry-RusFactor, told Sputnik.

    "We have developed a program, also for all types of drones, called NAKA. Basically, it is a neural network that recognizes certain objects, including the opponent's equipment," he said.

    German explained that the NAKA neural network is installed in the equipment to which the video from the drone cameras is transmitted.

    "For example, an airplane transmits video to the operator's console, and a program installed on the console turns a certain area of terrain into green and writes 'This is Leopard, and this is Bradley with a probability of 85%', showing the exact coordinates of its location," the company representative explained.

    According to German, this neural network has the prospect of being used for non-military purposes, including in agricultural drones to search for lost animals that spread over large territories.

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:45 pm

    It seems the only opportunity for Ukrainians to show some results will be to attack somewhere that they can regain western interest in what they are doing

    So the PR strikes will continue to try to galvanize some support, but it won't be enough to truly get support they want

    In order to get that support, Ukros will have to show Washington, that they are capable of reclaiming some territory

    IMO, the only chance they have will be for 2025 to attack Crimea again

    The reason being that it is the only place where they have any chance to show that

    IMO it will be the end for Ukraine, because they will lose their F16, and remaining vehicles in the final offensive for the VSU

    I say this because it's hopeless for them to attempt to launch those offensives along any other sector

    Going for Donbass is impossible, as Russia takes the former fortresses, making more costly for Ukraine to attack in that direction

    Attacking Belgorod, Voronezh is also not an option, as that would give Russia another large victory that would end Ukrainian dreams of more support from the west

    The only viable place they would attack again, as stupid as it sounds is Crimea

    They won't be able to take territory, as the Russian lines grow stronger, and now M14 highway is expanding the amount of lanes, and more railways are being laid by Russia as well to facilitate train transport to the regions of Zaporozhye and Kherson


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    Ultimately it will be impossible for them to achieve anything in this direction, as they throw the last F16, ATACMS, GLSDB at Russian logistics, they will exhaust the last amount of remaining material they have

    At that point, Russia could finally end this war, while it develops not only the adequate responses to Drones via EW

    But also takes out the final remaining semi-plausible offensive capability remaining for Ukraine

    I think Russia wraps up 2024, by dismantling what remains of the Donbass sector up to the Kramatorsk Crescent defense line

    They will allow Ukraine one more suicide charge, and annihilate what remains of the Ukro army as they make one last go at Crimea

    From there Russia will be able to essentially walk into Kharkov, Sumy, Chernigov, Kiev as Ukro remaining forces are forced to defend in isolated pockets, without the ability to support each other, or communicate

    They will be out of artillery, out of Missiles, out of aviation, out of tanks, out of every single category of significant weaponry

    With only drones remaining as a remaining tool

    The onus will be on Russia to perfect EW protection for assault, to deny them the final remaining tool of the bleeding and maimed badger that once was the VSU

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:10 pm

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    New jammers have appeared

    Let's see if these can do it all, removing the need for such a complex approach to EW

    So far success is shown in recent advances

    Let's hope that a breakthrough is made in this area as it will radically change possibilities

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    Post  Belisarius Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:56 pm

    🇺🇸🇺🇦🚨‼ Unloading of two damaged HIMARS, which are on their way to repair.
    https://t.me/myLordBebo/22629

    And people say Russia didn't destroy Himars dunno

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:05 pm

    lancelot wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:I had already provided evidence a few days ago that munition sold by India to NATO member states were exported by them to Ukraine.
    Even if it wasn't sent directly to Ukraine, it would still be used by the US to replenish their own stocks. So they would be able to send more of their other ammo to Ukraine anyway.

    So what?

    India is not at war with USA and it's not their job to police what their customers do with the merchandise after they purchased it from them



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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:14 pm


    "Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today"

    (Desire to learn more is conspicuously absent) Cool





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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:18 pm

    We all need to become versed in the newest information warfare techniques being propagated by certain intelligence agencies

    Specifically, starting with NAFO, then leading into "anti-tankie" and "anti-vatnik" groups

    These groups might seem like typical shitposting on western forums like reddit, Twitter, and Facebook

    But the reality is this is how they are attacking multipolarity from the ideological side

    The anti-tankies claim they are a leftist-libertarian group (sounds like CIA)

    That are essentially hell-bent on denying US imperialism, and then projecting those tropes onto Russia and China by using whataboutism

    They exclusively reject right wing ideas, because they are trying to harness the energy of these centrist moderates that plague political systems in the west and then using them to enable mainstream establishment parties to continue to rule

    Similar to green party tactics in Germany, which basically allowed a coalition between random parties to more or less form a political grouping that allied itself with the EU establishment

    So we can see how they use this to mislead their own citizens and then co-opt genuine discussion about alternative forms of governance led by new parties/candidates

    Same with anti-vatnik groups, these groups are just the same but they are on the right wing, and this is generally how the CIA/SBU/Mossad etc. Co-opt conservative movements and do the same thing as the leftist groups

    In essence, it is ideological subversion of western "alternative" political movements

    It is helpful to identify them because once you understand what these groups intentions are, you can basically understand how the deep state/blob works regardless of political parties

    It's also how they groomed Pravda sector and Azov in Ukraine, with local forums and groups that basically empowered a right wing group, that was allied to the CIA

    Same with terror groups that also are handled by western intelligence agencies

    This is how color revolution has evolved now, in line with modern political realities and how they operate in countries with highly bipartisan political structures

    So in Italy we saw a "right wing" politician get co-opted and essentially fall in line, while in Germany and France they do the same thing

    In order to foster change in western countries, it is important to form counter-narratives that focus on dispelling the disinformation and propaganda they use on their own citizens



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    Post  TMA1 Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:51 pm

    Oh we see them. They try to foster the pro troon redditor left as much as possible. On the right thry try to work with the cringy white nationalist types. Their trucks are known to those who wish to know. Sadly there are many who are kind of so taken in that it would be akin to a complete knock on their pride and worldview to get out.

    I think the key to these bastards is stuff you are talijg about. Constantly exposing their goofy plans. Also these fuckers thrive in amoral ideological modes. They have safe havens. The trannies on the left and the weird satanic white nationalist types on the right. Essentially they seem like universal satan lovers wherever you look. Pretty gay.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:35 pm

    Hole wrote:Remember that they also send their best brigades to the defence of Bakhmut.
    Wonder what happened to them?

    Twisted Evil

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    Once all of Ukraine has been liberated and returned back to Russia, these NAZI monuments need to be razed, the NAZIs exhumed and cremated, and then dumped somewhere in the North Atlantic Ocean where they can enjoy their eternal rest close to their NATzO Terrorist buddies. attack

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:27 pm

    I think those graves are exclusive to the western Ukr elite. The cannon fodder they recruited from eastern Ukraine (who are ethnically Russian)
    are either left to rot on the battlefield or buried in some dirt hole with a wooden cross. So these images are yet more Ukr propaganda.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:06 pm

    Possible last fling?

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    Post  nomadski Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:41 pm

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    They wrap corpses in their lies or their national flag  . As Johnson said " ....patriotism for the common good and action ... " Many misuse patriotism to gather support to impose political control . Such political movements are big on symbolism but short on content . The Iranian revolution , 45 years ago , had many slogans and placards : Freedom and independence and a Republic , down with the Shah or dictatorship . Now there are no slogans , only the flag ........

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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:28 pm

    A whole of Ecuador's stock can be placed in a gym.
    Mi-8 including.
    The whole thing has only propaganda meaning and I would call it a sign of pure desperation.

    I disagree. Ecuador was being neutral and then they started making money by siding with the west against Russia... should Russia ignore this?

    Should Russia reward Ecuador for helping the US arm Kievs forces trying to murder not just Russian soldiers but also Russian civilians?

    I read an article on a news website with a Swiss official who claimed that Switzerland was still a neutral country and people should still invest and bank their money there, but just because the Swiss have joined economic sanctions against Russia does that mean they have to lose their neutral status?

    Of course it does because the meaning of the word neutral means not picking sides whether it is in your interests or not.

    The leader of Ecuador said what they were sending was scrap and was not worth anything but they were getting 200 million dollars worth of US equipment to replace it... why would scrap need to be replaced?

    When the whole conflict is put in perspective in the future to reach a legally binding settlement, it needs to be crystal clear to any external observer, that Russia only escalated when forced by their opponents and after many diplomatic attempts, only that will create international recognition for eventual new borders an/or the dissolution of 404.

    It is not rocket science... Russia has been very careful to limit collateral damage and minimise the effects on the average civilian in the Ukraine as far as possible... including increasing risk to soldiers in some situations. The west seems happy to feed Ukrainian men and now women into a meat grinder with no care for their welfare at all and attacks on civilians are claimed to be legitimate targets of war when Kiev is responsible.

    It is pretty clear Russia cares about the people more than the west. The west is either interested in the value of resources in the Ukraine or in damaging Russia and Russians.

    The morality is clear.

    India is not at war with USA and it's not their job to police what their customers do with the merchandise after they purchased it from them

    At the end of the day it is in Indias interests to remain neutral and not help the US damage Russia. It seems at the moment India wants to use the US to damage China or offset Chinas influence. The US of course wants to damage India and Russia and China because they are all potential rivals and getting under their skin and stirring shit is what they do best.

    India will have had clauses in the agreements and sales contracts with the US that gives India some control... India would certainly object if the US gave Indian munitions to a country like Pakistan or China for what ever reason.

    If these rounds were sold to European countries the same applies because the EU are US vassals and will do what the US demands. They don't have morals or ethics or independent thought so it wont matter to them what the US orders them to do.


    "Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today"

    (Desire to learn more is conspicuously absent)

    The good old BBC showing you the news from every angle... except Putins perspective or any vaguely Russian friendly angle.

    They exclusively reject right wing ideas, because they are trying to harness the energy of these centrist moderates that plague political systems in the west and then using them to enable mainstream establishment parties to continue to rule

    They preach tolerance through intolerance... agree with me or you are putins puppet and need to be fired from your job.

    So in Italy we saw a "right wing" politician get co-opted and essentially fall in line, while in Germany and France they do the same thing

    The ease with which they are manipulated is partly because they are so weak and not so stupid, but part of politics in the west is being flexible to gain power over others so changing your direction to get what you want makes them easy to manipulate and control.


    In order to foster change in western countries, it is important to form counter-narratives that focus on dispelling the disinformation and propaganda they use on their own citizens

    I would say forget trying to fix the west... any attempts will just be seen as attempts to corrupt and interfere in the west and will cause them to further double down on stupid. Turn away from the west and let them stew in their own juices for a bit... Russia will do fine without the west and the rest of the world will do better with BRICS than the west... first and foremost because the rest of the world will be able to join BRICS which has never been an option for them to join the west.

    You might say the west allows countries that are fully european colonised like Canada and Australia and New Zealand join the west, or occupied countries like South Korea and Japan. But even countries like Turkey are allowed in HATO but not the EU so they can join the meat shield squad, but not be allowed in the Garden.

    Turkey has enormous potential but the west will never let them achieve it.... and I don't mean expansion and empire creation, I mean developing and growing and improving the lives of all its people to a comfortable level.

    Possible last fling?

    Those are lines on a map. Have they made those thrusts and is that line on the map the new line of contact, or is that their plan of what they want to do but have not achieved yet?

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:33 pm

    Those blue lines are total fiction.    When has the front moved this much this fast in the last year?

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:11 am

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    Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!

    - Samuel Jackson

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:17 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Possible last fling?

    Those are lines on a map. Have they made those thrusts and is that line on the map the new line of contact, or is that their plan of what they want to do but have not achieved yet?

    WO IST STEINER?!?!
    Laughing Laughing

    Jokes aside.
    This week a case emerged about a guy forcefully mobilized on Feb2st, being buried on Feb9th.
    He didn't last a week, literally.
    It's crystal clear that they don't get even a basic training at the moment.
    Roundups are starting to be a risky business, as the Niggas fight back. A few days ago, some sort of battles were emerging on TG.
    Not one, not two, but several.
    People are gathering and trying to bit the shit out of the slave dealers ... I meant recruiting teams.
    Counteroffensive up my ass ...

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    Post  nomadski Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:36 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
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    Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!

    - Samuel Jackson



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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Possible last fling?

    Those are lines on a map. Have they made those thrusts and is that line on the map the new line of contact, or is that their plan of what they want to do but have not achieved yet?

    Only someones idea of the best they can do, maintaining the optimism much along the lines of the UA plans to reach the sea in the south last summer.

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    Post  Belisarius Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:45 am

    kvs wrote:I think those graves are exclusive to the western Ukr elite.   The cannon fodder they recruited from eastern Ukraine (who are ethnically Russian)
    are either left to rot on the battlefield or buried in some dirt hole with a wooden cross.    So these images are yet more Ukr propaganda.


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    Post  Sujoy Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:38 am

    Perhaps pleased with India for supplying artillery shells to Ukraine, European Union is now preparing to sanction India for supporting Russia.

    This is no longer a Russia vs Ukraine war, rather this seems to be a battle between a voluble, affluent, talent-less, entitled West and rest of the world looking askance at the sheer absurdity of demands

    https://www.ft.com/content/183af737-ef65-4cea-9b27-06c384a5accd

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    Post  Hole Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:56 am

    Possible last fling?
    Sure. If they had all those soldiers and material back that they lost in their fantastic
    counter-counter-counter-offensive they could try it. But even with that ammount of
    people and stuff it wouldn´t lead to much.

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    Died years ago.

    Why bother honoring the dead?
    To be fair, this was done in WWII, too.
    Bury people in mass graves is sometimes neccessary.
    Those fighters could be relocated later.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:30 am

    That's true, but it was being done because of a scale of losses that hampered the ability to bury the fallen properly.
    To be honest, this scale never occurred to Wehrmacht before the Barbarossa began.

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