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    Post  TMA1 Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:48 am

    lolol they timed these announcements because of tucker wtf. Someone needs to smother our geriatric satanic overlords in their sleep.

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:24 am

    GarryB wrote:Glide kits for FAB-3000, and FAB-5000, and FAB-9000, and perhaps even some FOAB testing... not to mention drones on ground and in their air day and night chipping away at people and resources and any supply columns going in or coming out.
    Why not use TOS instead?

    TOS-1A is known to have scattering. TOS-2 Tosochka is extremely precise because the fire control system is fully automated.
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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:38 am

    Compare the range and figure out ...

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:43 am

    Enough for what? We need whatever drugs these are on

    The New York Times: Ukrainian air defense will have enough ammunition until March

    The publication notes that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are experiencing serious difficulties due to a lack of weapons and ammunition.

    Prolonged bombing damages air defense systems.

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    Post  franco Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:06 pm

    Interesting timeline of the buildup of troops and equipment on both sides and all fronts starting in January 2022 leading up to the start of the SVO, and into September of 2023.

    https://twitter.com/amborin/status/1709962376014103033

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:07 pm

    This looks like a lot of oil related product going up.
    Just a bonfire to celebrate the removal of Zaluzhny. Very Happy

    We need whatever drugs these are on
    Copium is back, baby.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:23 pm

    In regard to accuracy of FAB, they have included a warhead which bursts in the air, and sprays the targets with shrapnel and fragments

    It is a pattern though isn't it?

    First the doomsayers complain Russia does not have enough missiles or artllery shells or drones and then it turns out they do... they just haven't been showing lots of videos of their use.

    Then they don't have enough proximity fused rounds and air burst rounds and then we see some rounds explode in the air and they claimed they failed ...

    A 500kg bomb that hits the ground and explodes is deadly, but one that explodes 10m above the ground is lethal out to much greater distances because half the fragments are not wasted heading directly into the ground.

    I used to watch a great interview with some high ranking exCIA guy, made back in the 80s.
    He was telling the stories about CIA involvement in Angola.
    The sole cause of the whole mess was a fact, that CIA had to withdraw all of its assets and operatives from Vietnam. Corridors at Langley were full of desks manned by sad folks who had perfectly nothing to do.

    And it wasn't just Angola... when the Iranians kicked the CIA out of Iran in the late 1970s... the vast majority went next door to Afghanistan to create a conflict there... and  they were so proud of themselves for doing that to the Soviets... it was quite funny when it bit them in the arse this century...

    Putin could have talked about the maiden massacre, the biolabs, more in depth about the treaty being broken multiple times and ethnic cleansing to happen in Crimea because the interview would generate over 100 million views soon on twitter by tomorrow, but instead he goes on a 30 minute warhammer lore about russias history and how ukraine is an artificial state in which the west wouldn't care enough to continue supplying ukraine but if he addressed some other things about the war that could have sparked more protests to the west for western leaders to take action against Ukraine then further support it.

    It is a start. It was never going to fix everything... most in the west have never heard him speak and most will suspect he is a liar and a criminal because that is what western media paints him as and cuts up his speaches and quotes to make him appear anti alphabet people and anti gay when in fact he doesn't really care for them, but understands they exist and is not calling for concentration camps to convert them to normal. He just does not want them polluting the minds of children who should not be taught hard core porn at primary school level.

    When will Russia start starting random fires or bomb an equivalent infrastructure destroyed in Russia by these fires Ukraine/West starts? Silence and inaction only encourages and emboldens the enemy. It motivates more arson attacks.

    When your enemy acts like a terrorist it makes more sense to act as an adult and treat it like the crime it is. If Putin and Shoigu responded in kind and leveled civilian targets in the Ukraine do you think Georgia would intercept and stop bomb equipment coming from countries into Russia via their territory?

    Russia is acting like a grown up and Georgia respects that because no one should like terrorism on any level.

    If administrated correctly, when all the people in those countries will knew that it was a good will gesture from Moscow, it would be rather hard to push forward an agenda about evil tsar in Kremlin

    Exactly... many will appreciate it on the west side and even on the Ukraine side... they are so desperate to join the EU and HATO and this would do if for them, but Russia will also make sure it gets something out of this too... even if it is just a stable border controlled on their side by rational actors that can be trusted more than the lunatics in Kiev.

    And he did that multiple times in the interview, suggesting Tucker confront his words by asking his counterparts back home.

    His counterparts that denied they said anything about no expansion of HATO to the East?

    They are not likely to tell the truth and prove themselves to be the bad guys that they are.

    Merkel and Holland implicated themselves in this because they are both retired...

    Putin got fooled again? How many times is that now?

    Not really... as we have discussed over and over the Russian forces were a small force in comparison to the Ukrainian forces and spreading the occupied territory right over to Kiev meant they were spread rather thin which makes them vulnerable to artillery way back when the Orcs still had plenty.

    Withdrawing made sense no matter what because they never had sufficient forces to take Kiev so it was always a symbolic gesture unless their military collapsed and they surrendered.

    With Syrskyi now in command we will likely begin to see major counter attacks against the northern flank of the Avdeevka salient.

    Awesome... they are going to bleed so much faster and bring the collapse so much faster... how are they going to mount these counter attacks... send in the Salvation Army or the Boy Scouts?

    Of course it does. Anyway, here is the screen shot and link to the video.

    I clicked on your link and got a page does not exist error.

    And even if the Storm Shadow was flying at a low altitude it could have been engaged by Pantsir or even Tor. But they failed to.

    How do you know they failed to?

    That missile would not be able to detect that battery below it.... it is following waypoints to hit a target... it has no way of seeing what is below it on the ground as it flys.

    Pantsir and TOR would be located in perimeter locations which means it got in one side but that does not mean it escaped out the other side intact.

    The battery has clearly just arrived and was setting up, but the TOR or Pantsir would be listening for targets and receiving target data from other platforms so as to not reveal their position... something that clearly worked because even the HATO planners are not dumb enough to route their missiles directly over major SAM batteries.

    You are arguing farts of this "R" retard?

    The west is posting this as some sort of victory... maybe he thinks new Storm Shadows work as advertised... except if they did then why do they only hit old ships and subs in dry dock... surely the Black Sea Fleet HQ would be a much higher priority to hammer with wave after wave of Storm Shadows... but they are not good against well defended targets and so they fire them at under defended targets and places where they don't think there are SAM batteries.

    This video shows that the mobile nature of the Soviet and Russian SAMS makes finding gaps to fly through difficult... even if they didn't intercept these missiles they can pass on the location and altitude and flight direction of the weapons so other batteries and defences will be waiting and ready to shoot them down.

    That is how an IADS works.

    US Has Enough Funds for Now To Continue Training Ukrainian Pilots on F-16, National Guard Chief Says

    And it is good that they keep wasting funds on that stupid endeavour.

    Hardened Colombian Fighters Answer Zelensky's Call to Join Depleted Ranks

    So not just killing nazis, also killing drug cartel nutters... the CIA probably is losing a lot of men in this then.

    They can, they are open, but how it can happen if it is against Ukro law?

    It is not just the law, they have spent the entire conflict claiming they were going to thrash the Russians and then punish the Russian leadership and get Russia to pay compensation for everything... it is a position switch to then change to the status quo on the ground let alone what Russia will demand.

    Lack of support vehicles and SHORAD , easy to set up on computer , but again makes proving a fake easy . Therefore a bad fake .

    You make lots of very good points Nomadski... I am a bit embarrassed that I didn't consider that too because we know what liars these nazis are and that they have an extensive range of bullshit artists ready to fake all sorts of things on the fly.

    That US drone with the fake broken propeller blade is a case in point... and that came from the US State Department or Pentagon and was official... and pathetically faked.

    Why not use TOS instead?

    They will certainly use TOS as well, and of course for every FAB type of HE fragmentation bomb they also have OFZAB HE fragmentation incendiary tanks, and ODAB type fuel air explosive bombs and ZB incendiary tanks, not to mention BETAB concrete piercing bombs and RBK cluster bombs with various munition types from PTAB top attack shaped charge anti armour munitions (200mm penetration and 352 munitions per 500kg cluster bomb), OFAB-50UD HE frag incendiary bomblets (50kgs each with ten to a 500kg cluster bomb), OAB-2.5RT anti personel HE Frag balls (126 bomblets per 500kg cluster bomb, spin stabilised anti personal bomblets), SPBE-K self forging fragment top attack munition, 15 to a 500kg bomb with MMW radar and IR sensors to attack armour, or BETAB-M concrete piercing submunitions with 10 per 500kg cluster container designed to penetrate concrete runways and roads and structures and explode inside doing damage deep inside the foundations of a runway or road or to destroy aircraft in concrete hangars or troops inside bunkers.

    With glide kits these bombs can be delivered deep behind enemy lines in any direction without warning.

    They of course can use drones to clear the areas they mean to attack no doubt and TOS will be used in places they do attack, but there is no hurry... they will find where the enemy is and wear them down before committing bodies to the attack.

    TOS-1A is known to have scattering. TOS-2 Tosochka is extremely precise because the fire control system is fully automated.

    Both systems are area weapons... there is no benefit to firing five rockets and having them all hit the same piece of ground... that is just a waste.

    Spreading the impacts means spreading the damage and having more effective fire... don't think sniper... think machine gun. Don't think one target... think thousands all spread out.

    A sniper would be a waste of time except to take out specific targets, sometimes you can't win with a sniper because the numbers will just overwhelm you... sometimes you need lots of machine guns to deal with enormous numbers of targets at once... the more the better.

    Enough for what? We need whatever drugs these are on

    All these Russian weapons they keep shooting down, and I rather doubt they are managing to even achieve that... they would be showing the destroyed missiles and drones like they used to.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:53 pm

    At night, the Russian Army hit 11 units of Ukrainian Armed Forces equipment, including tanks, - coordinator of the Nikolaev underground Sergei Lebedev

    In addition, according to him, in the east of the Kharkov region a blow was struck at the place where Ukrainian officers had gathered to celebrate the appointment of Syrsky to the post of commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    /RIAN/
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    Post  franco Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:05 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from February 4 to February 10, 2024)

    In the period from February 4 to 10, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 31 group strikes with high-precision weapons, including long-range air and sea-based, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles against objects of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine.

    The production capacities of enterprises engaged in the production and repair of aircraft, reconnaissance and attack UAVs and unmanned boats, coastal and tactical missile systems, as well as multiple rocket launchers were affected.

    In addition, the locations of units of the armed forces of Ukraine, formations of nationalists and foreign mercenaries were hit. The targets of the strikes have been achieved.

    In the Kupyansk direction, during the week, units of the "Western" group of troops occupied more advantageous positions, and also repelled 36 attacks by assault groups of 25 airborne, 30, 32, 44 mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 13, 18 brigades of the National Guard in the areas of the settlements of Sinkovka, Kharkiv region and Terny, Donetsk People's Republic.

    In addition, the enemy's manpower was defeated in the areas of the settlements of Novoselovskoye of the Luhansk People's Republic, Kislovka and Berestovoye of the Kharkiv region. The enemy's losses amounted to over 725 soldiers, two armored combat vehicles, 24 vehicles and 10 field artillery pieces.

    In the Krasnolimansk direction, units of the Center group of troops improved their position along the front edge and, in cooperation with aviation and artillery, repelled 14 enemy attacks. In the areas of the settlements of Chervonaya Dibrova of the Luhansk People's Republic, Yampolovka, Torskoye, Grigorovka of the Donetsk People's Republic, as well as the Serebryansk forestry, clusters of manpower and equipment of 60, 63 mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 12 special purpose brigades "Azov" and 5 brigades of the National Guard of Ukraine were defeated.

    During the week in this direction, the enemy lost up to 1,500 soldiers killed and wounded, 11 armored combat vehicles, 31 vehicles and three field artillery guns.

    In the Donetsk direction, units of the "Southern" grouping of troops occupied more advantageous lines and positions, and also repelled 26 enemy attacks in the areas of the settlements of Krasnoe, Leninskoye, Kleshcheyevka, Shumy and Pobeda of the Donetsk People's Republic. Air strikes and artillery fire defeated units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard in the areas of the settlements of Bogdanovka, Novy, Kurdyumovka, Novgorodskoye, Belogorovka, Andreevka, Georgievka and Katerinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic.

    The enemy's losses amounted to more than 2,190 military personnel, two tanks, 13 armored combat vehicles, 38 vehicles, 19 field artillery guns and a Grad MLRS combat vehicle.

    In the South Donetsk direction, units of the Vostok group of forces have improved their position along the front line over the past week. Coordinated actions repelled five attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine and defeated units of the 72 mechanized brigade, 105, 128 brigades of the air defense and 1 brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Ugledar, Makarovka, Urozhodnoye, Staromayorskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic and Priyutnoye of the Zaporozhye region.

    The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 1,160 soldiers, three tanks, six armored combat vehicles, 23 vehicles and 14 field artillery guns.

    In the Zaporozhye direction, units of the Russian troops defeated the manpower and equipment of 128 mountain assault, 33, 65, 118 mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 3 brigades of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Workino, Novodanilovka, Nesteryanka, Pyatikhatki and Shcherbaki of the Zaporozhye region.

    The enemy lost more than 210 servicemen, four armored combat vehicles, nine vehicles, four field artillery guns and a Grad MLRS combat vehicle.

    In the Kherson direction, Russian troops, with air strikes and artillery fire, defeated the manpower and equipment of the 35th, 37th Marine brigades, 121st, 124th air defense brigades, 23rd Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Tyaginka, Mikhaylovka, Ivanovka, Tokarevka, Zolotaya Balka, Antonovka and Stanislav of the Kherson region. The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 245 servicemen, 25 vehicles, seven boats, six field artillery guns and a HIMARS MLRS combat vehicle.

    Over the past week, two launchers and a radar of the S-300 anti-aircraft missile system, as well as eight ammunition depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, have been hit by operational and tactical aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, missile forces and artillery groups of troops.

    During the week, aircraft and air defense systems shot down MiG-29 and Su-25 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, 34 multiple rocket launchers of HIMARS, Vampire, Uragan and Alder, as well as 488 unmanned aerial vehicles.

    During the week, 36 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 570 aircraft, 265 helicopters, 12166 unmanned aerial vehicles, 464 anti-aircraft missile systems, 14956 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1218 multiple rocket launchers, 8008 field artillery and mortars, as well as 18419 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12499988@egNews

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:35 pm

    It is necromancy !! Laughing

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    Post  PhSt Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:21 pm

    A year ago I suggested that RU introduce different munitions for their Geran-2s like a thermobaric warhead, and they started doing this. I also suggested they make a specialized Glide kit for the oversized FOAB, or maybe put it on top of a Proton rocket, kinda like a non nuclear ICBM and test it in Kiev. I hope RU entertains this concept.

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    "Reports about the transfer of AVDIIVSKAYA AVTOBAZA, OJSC "Avdiivska Avtobaza" to the control of the Russian Army,
    and the retreat of the enemy (AFU in that case) to Koksokhim"

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    Post  Hole Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:20 pm

    to celebrate the appointment of Syrsky
    Morale must be pretty low if they have to celebrate such an event. lol1

    It is necromancy !!
    North-Korean shamans perfected that feat long ago. angel

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:21 pm

    Belisarius wrote:

    That's it, I'm converting to Russian Orthodoxy. In the Catholic church only Jesus gets resurrected from the dead while in the Russian Orthodox Church everyone gets resurrected.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:23 pm

    Naaah.
    Shoigu is a Chuvash.
    So those must have been Chuvash shamans, not orthodox.
    Laughing

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    Post  jhelb Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:34 pm

    GarryB wrote:That missile would not be able to detect that battery below it.... it is following waypoints to hit a target... it has no way of seeing what is below it on the ground as it flys.
    Rather the presence of the Russian S-400 forced the Storm Shadow to change direction and head towards another target that's not defended. Real time waypoints are fed into the missile all the time.
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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:57 pm

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    Good interview from Tucker.
    I hope Usa americans vote well this year and get rid of Biden's woke dictatorship.
    That pedophile with Alzheimer's is the main person responsible for the evil in the world


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    Post  ArgentinaGuard Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:05 pm

    thegopnik wrote:Putin could have talked about the maiden massacre, the biolabs, more in depth about the treaty being broken multiple times and ethnic cleansing to happen in Crimea because the interview would generate over 100 million views soon on twitter by tomorrow, but instead he goes on a 30 minute warhammer lore about russias history and how ukraine is an artificial state in which the west wouldn't care enough to continue supplying ukraine but if he addressed some other things about the war that could have sparked more protests to the west for western leaders to take action against Ukraine then further support it.
    People are seeing a president trained in History who gives a half-hour class.
    Now, compare that to Biden or the stupid presidents of Europe.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:23 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Naaah.
    Shoigu is a Chuvash.
    So those must have been Chuvash shamans, not orthodox.
    Laughing
     no, he's Tuvan, as was the General Subudai who led the Chingis & Batu Khans' Mongol armies into N. China, C. Asia, Rus', Poland,Hungary & the Balkans.

    https://regnum.ru/news/3866383?utm_campaign=regnum&utm_term=top_material

    It would be funny if it wasn't so sad: The FSB intends to use conscripts in battles. This follows from the draft allowances for conscripts serving in the department. The Investigative Committee suspended the criminal case into the death of the cruiser Moskva. Putin is being tested for justification of Nazism (!) https://youtu.be/qVArQczHk4I


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    Post  nomadski Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:25 pm

    Is Avdiivka Russian populated ? I remember reason given before for not bombing settled areas ( the Orc forces there ) , was given as civilian " hostages . " If so I understand why a frontal assault may be needed in difficult house to house fighting . But why not encircle town first and cut military supplies ? The area around town is open and no visible defensive trenches ! So this favours armour against infantry ? Will all towns be cleared in this way ? I am sure there must be good reason , but I don't know why .

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:47 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Naaah.
    Shoigu is a Chuvash.
    So those must have been Chuvash shamans, not orthodox.
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