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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:31 pm

    If there is an attack from the North it will start with a missile barrage. Then we will know.


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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:34 pm

    So again, we know what Lavrov meaned by saying "no comments" Laughing
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    Post  Firebird Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:47 pm

    On troop numbers, I suspect Putin was speaking in his politician not military capacity.

    He's saying "very few of the mobilised are seeing battle".
    Why? Because its true... and because its politics.

    However, lets look at the numbers. 180k originally used in the Pukraine.
    330k or so have been mobilised through volunteers and formal mobilisation.
    Then you have Wagner/foreign ontop.

    My belief is that the mobilised will take the place of troops eg defending the Kurils and Caususes etc.
    Which will free under contract troops to move to the Pukraine.

    Russia has high calibre troops, logistics and vast land arnaments.
    What does the Pukraine have? A ragbag of forced conscripts, rusty GATO shit, Nazi scum and a bit of firewood.

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    Post  Isos Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:48 pm

    @Hole There are missile barrages every week. Not an indication of anything.

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:53 pm

    I mean a few hundred Iskander missiles + Smerch and Uragan hitting Ukro positions south of Belarus.

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    Post  famschopman Thu Dec 08, 2022 5:54 pm

    An attack from the north will be problematic with all the recently introduced minefields. They first need to be cleared before putting infantry at risk.
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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:02 pm

    Source on Twitter:
    There is a video circulating of a Ukrainian barracks that was hit in a strike behind the lines.
    In it you can see multiple charred bodies sizzling in their bed frames. A number of sources
    saying Russia is using Tornado MLRS in Ukraine now.

    Still from the video:
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    The rest is... horrific.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 08, 2022 6:36 pm

    Isn't that the one back from Spring? dunno
    There was something similar in Maryanka's direction, too. A bunker turned into owen. Hot one.

    Just some fresh deliveries :

    https://t.me/intelslava/42522

    https://t.me/intelslava/42529

    Pay attention ... they have been physically annihilated ... and the storming position was not even manned by the regular Russian army, but by militias ...

    ... OK, I was kidding .. they tried to advance against the Sparta battalion in the first movie Laughing Laughing
    ... and it was the republican artillery that hit them Laughing Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:50 pm

    From the horse's mouth

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:52 pm

    Their real time intelligence sucks then.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:56 pm

    What really sucks is Reytheon CEO feeling of reality Laughing

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    Post  nomadski Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:05 pm




    If Ukrs are importing 155 mm shells and artillery , then this must mean they are , or should be running low on 152 mm shells . I doubt they still have production facility for these . Must have been hit by now , also no electricity for furnaces . And they seem to be conducting effective artillery duel against Russia . How many shells are the Russians firing ? How many are Ukrs firing ? How are they still managing to transport all this across Polish border ? Without being hit or observed ! All this ammo , must make a large cargo , visible from Jupiter ! No human Intel on the ground ? No attempt to destroy cargo ? Something does not make sense .
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    Post  Isos Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:09 pm

    Can do it with a smartphone too.

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:11 pm

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    Own goal of the century.

    No attempt to destroy cargo ?
    There were multiple hits against storage facilities closer to the frontline with huge losses of ammo that was brought in over 1.000+km.
    A lot of wasted fuel and manpower on the side of the NATO/UkroNazis.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:26 pm

    Blindly following the orders of mad men...

    And that is what makes me sad.
    They are really brave people.
    Just serving the bad cause.
    Twisted Russkies.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:52 pm

    Hole wrote " There were multiple hits against storage facilities closer to the frontline with huge losses of ammo that was brought in over 1.000+km. A lot of wasted fuel and manpower on the side of the NATO/UkroNazis. "  But why allow the cargo to come in 1000+km ? When cargo comes in , it must do so by a limited number of Road and Rail crossings by Poland . The cargo is not dispersed by carriage through many side Roads , or dispersed along the countryside or frontlines , into tiny packages . Why not hit the cargo , when it is assembled into small area on Roads and Rail near Poland ? Once cargo destroyed , then Road and Rail crossings also destroyed , but no choice in this . Come to think about it , Road and Rail will be destroyed anyhow , might as well destroy all Road and Rail crossings into Ukraine from all borders . This will stop all heavy traffic , but small arms can still come in by dirt Roads or Horses . It will change things a lot . Ukrs can still import civilian goods by Ships , but these can be inspected by Russia at Sea !

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    ......or madly following the orders of blind men .


    Edit : If what Russia claims to be true , ie: the goal of uniting the four oblast only . Then it has no intention of capturing new territory to the West of the River , and therefore does not need the Bridges on Dnieper River , which only serve to supply Ukrs troops in the East . These must also be destroyed .


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm

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    Good maps of potential winter offensive

    РЕЙД operations termed by the general staff, would be to rapidly advance, and clear the zone of Ukrainian army, then leave sensors and mines across the region, as the cities are emptying of civilians

    Then Russian army would withdraw back to the border , where defensive fortifications in voronezh and Belgorod are already being built

    This way they can demilitarize the zone , and withdraw afterwards

    РЕЙД operations are essentially like force recon, or recon in force how we saw in March, rapid movement, with massive bombardment to clear the AOR of ukros, then withdrawing behind pre-planned defenses and mining the zone between the so called "wagner line" and the acceptable nazi nest

    Russian forces would only occupy the zones shown temporarily to give time to Ukrainian troops and civilians to exit from 2 corridors, the nazi one, or to Russia

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:40 pm

    The advances on Pavlovka, Opytnoye, Marinka, and Chasov Yar actually have a huge significance

    If anyone has seen maps of Ukrainian reserves in this area, Ugledar-Gulyai-Pole,

    It makes sense, in Kiev there is a delusion that western advisors have not been able to cull, that they can press an offensive from Ugledar to Mariupol

    They cannot do this due to the capture of those settlements in donbass leading to Artemovsk, which is a vacuum of reserve units initially built up for na offensive on Mariupol

    This is also further cementing the belief that an offensive in Chernigov, Sumy, and Kharkov is imminent, if not only to draw out forces from the south, but also to annihilate them in one go , while in the south the progressive warfare to Slavyansk continues

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:05 pm

    Why not hit the cargo , when it is assembled into small area on Roads and Rail near Poland ? 
    The stuff comes in in hundreds of trucks, mostly civilian. Instead of bombing them Russia waits until the cargo is unloaded
    in some depot close to the front and then destroys hundreds of tons at once. Simpler. Cheaper. And the enemy waists a lot
    of energy on the transport. If we consider the reports from the Ukro side and their 24/7 complaints about a lack of artillery
    support, lack of equipment and the return of the famous pickle jars to their hideouts I would say that the russian approach
    works rather good.

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:07 pm

    Oh, what a beautiful panorama!
    Must be Kiev?
    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:15 pm

    Sure. That´s why you can see a Z at one of the buildings. Z for Zelensky.  pwnd

    Tom:
    People who follow the 18+ channels will know what I mean by this: The Ukrainian army is getting mauled at the moment. It's been a while since I've seen this many dead Ukrainian soldiers. Probably Lisichansk was the last time I saw this. It's actually worse than then.

    Big Serge:
    LPR officials claim that Ukraine is transferring up to 500 men *per day* to Bakhmut to replenish losses. Even Arestovych admitted that Russian artillery strength in the sector has a 9 to 1 advantage. Bakhmut is becoming the largest and most costly battle of the war for Ukaine.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:21 pm

    Hole wrote " The stuff comes in in hundreds of trucks, mostly civilian. Instead of bombing them Russia waits until the cargo is unloaded in some depot close to the front and then destroys hundreds of tons at once. Simpler. Cheaper. And the enemy waists a lot of energy on the transport. If we consider the reports from the Ukro side and their 24/7 complaints about a lack of artillery support, lack of equipment and the return of the famous pickle jars to their hideouts I would say that the russian approach
    works rather good. "


    If stuff coming in hundreds of Trucks , then best crater the Roads , then nothing comes through . Waiting until cargo is in ammo depot , is too late . They could be already using it . The forum reported artillery duels , so this indicated a like for like exchange , involving many rounds fired . Iran makes MRBM with cratering warhead . Also destroy all Bridges on Dnieper . If they hit Crimea Bridge again , so what ! Russia can repair , Ukraine can not .


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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:28 pm

    A road is repaired in a few hours and there are a lot of roads. If the Kiev regime claims a 9 to 1 advantage for Russia in artillery around
    "Bakhmut" then it´s propably closer to 15 to 1. These " artillery duels" end badly for the Nazis in nearly all cases. 

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    Does it end well for the Russians ? They seem to be firing a lot of shells . Must be millions by now . Cheaper to destroy the Roads and Rail and Bridges . You can not repair a Road , under bombardment . All vehicles for repair are dust . And recovery vehicles to remove the wreckage are dust . Ad infinitum........


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