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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:43 pm

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    Medvedev:
    "The Ukrainian bastards who shot Russian POWs should not suffer any other punishment, except for what is pure punishment. Even if it takes years to find them.

    And only the death penalty is a pure punishment. "


    Tony Cyberspec
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    🇷🇺VDV (Airborne) battalion formed from mobilised paratroopers of Buryatia and Yakutia is being sent from Ulan-Ude to the SMO zone . They go to the front as part of the 11th Guards Airborne Assault Brigade (Ulan-Ude, Republic of Buryatia).

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    🇩🇪 magazine "Der Spiegel" reported that planning errors on the part of the German MOD when ordering spare parts increasingly jeopardize the combat readiness of 155 mm/52 German self-propelled howitzers PzH 2000 transferred as military aid to Ukraine.

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    Light mountain howitzers of the 1956 model will be handed over to Ukraine

    The 105-mm Italian mountain howitzer M56 produced by OTO Melar is in service in more than three dozen countries.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:52 pm

    Posted for the second video. Bet they thought they were safely tucked away.

    Ignore the first part, may well be false.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:58 pm

    Yesterday morning. That looks a whole lot worse than 'decimation' which is 1 in 10.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:02 pm

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    💥💥💥Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:The division of the 40th artillery brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkov region,which attacked the Belgorod region,was defeated

    As a result,4 M777 artillery systems were destroyed💥💥💥
    👉https://t.me/i20028843

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Nov 20, 2022 2:43 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    I only learned on this forum that the Rafale is a spaceship and the HIMARS was sent by Darth Vader himself, while everything else is peasant military equipment.




    from Russian MoD

    In the area of ​​the settlement of Kramatorsk, Donetsk People's Republic, high-precision missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed two installations of the American HIMARS multiple launch rocket system.

    https://t.me/mod_russia/21888

    Darth Vader lost this time Very Happy

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    Post  Scorpius Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:15 pm

    Military doctors of the Main Clinical Hospital of the Russian Ministry of Defense named after N. N. Burdenko in Moscow have developed and implemented a new method of 3D modeling of implants for the full restoration of the limbs of patients who received severe mine-explosive and gunshot wounds during a special military operation.

    "A new development of military doctors of the hospital named after Burdenko will allow creating an individual three-dimensional customized implant for each patient, fully corresponding in size and shape to the lost bone fragment of the victim. The implant is installed in the area of the defect, after which it is filled with elements of bone tissue specially grown using stem cells of the wounded, followed by the addition of muscle tissue and fragments from the patient's own body," the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    They noted that earlier such injuries often led, among other things, to amputation of limbs. "The rehabilitation of patients sometimes took several years, while some of the patients were not able to restore the full functioning of the damaged limbs," the Ministry of Defense stressed, adding that the use of an innovative method of limb restoration significantly reduces the recovery and rehabilitation of victims. The first patient to whom such an operation was performed and a part of the tibia was restored, fully recovered in the shortest possible time and, of his own volition, went back to the area of the SVO.

    "The method developed by military doctors is unique. No one does such operations in the world with gunshot wounds, except specialists of the Main Military Clinical Hospital named after N. N. Burdenko. Now gunshot wounds of the limbs are so severe that they lead to the absence of whole limb segments, such as bone and muscle tissue, in the place of bullets or shrapnel. As a result of the operation, the bone is actually recreated in a so—called "case" made of titanium, perfectly repeating the missing fragment," the department quoted the words of the deputy head of the hospital for research, Deputy chief traumatologist of the Ministry of Defense of Russia Leonid Brizhan. Brizhan noted that this method of recovery is already widely used in the hospital and will soon become available to a wide range of medical institutions.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/16373355

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    Post  Singular_Transform Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:25 pm

    JohninMK wrote:They need some WD-40 Laughing

    Why are they trying to get that wheel off, the tank doesn't look saveable? Or are they just desperate for parts?

    asses the damage of the shaft, and if OK replace the damaged components ,put back the track and drive back to maintanance.
    Or to the meat grinder.
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    Post  AMCXXL Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:43 pm

    https://peremogi.livejournal.com/64020029.html

    Denazification is in full swing: Ruina's losses, according to open sources, exceeded 100,000
    Internet activists have compiled a graph of confirmed ZSU losses based on open source data. Thus, the losses of the killed ukrovermacht amounted to more than 100,000 people, and this is not counting the missing, wounded and prisoners.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 4073689_original

    The high losses of the Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava regions are due to the fact that the inhabitants of these regions form the basis of the so-called UDA "Right Sector", which Zelensky throws into the thick of it. And also, most of the Nazi volunteer battalions are part of the 93rd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which has been rebuilt several times already.
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    And here is what the liberals from zona.media counted about the Russian troops:

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 28098_original

    At the same time, I would like to note that ours, unlike the Khikhils, do not even try to hide their losses. 
    On the contrary, every funeral is a media event at the local level - a farewell to a heroic countryman. By the way, not only funerals: memorial plaques are put up, “desks of heroes” are opened in schools. All with the participation of representatives of local authorities.

    On the contrary, they try to throw pigs in the fields. Not only the dead, but even the wounded. In order to hide the losses and not pay compensation - which, even those recognized as dead, seem to be clamped down. Ours, by the way, pay everything honestly.

    And even under such conditions, the ratio is more than 11:1 (however, the losses of the DPR and LPR are not taken into account here). What a ratio in reality - it's scary to even imagine. It's not really scary, but it's nice. But in any case, it's not big enough, of course. Even 1000:1 would be too little - because one Russian life is more valuable than all the stinking kuraina. A good ratio would be 30000000:0.


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    Post  franco Sun Nov 20, 2022 3:48 pm

    Zelensky's pipe dream https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1594315805759619072/photo/1 No

    Looks like a nice big cauldron to me Twisted Evil russia

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    Post  limb Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:00 pm

    Erk wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:

    Well there are the consistent rumours/reports of EMP rounds being in development for at least the Koalitsiya

    There is a considerable amount of theory behind it
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3442p25-russian-emp-weapons#281288

    Also there were reports about anti-air EMP warheads under development for TOR missiles

    Not the same, NEMP will take out the electronics in an entire city, or a country in the case of the Sakharov bomb theory.

    Using EMP warheads for basic air defense is impractical, that's why the don't do it.

    You could just shine a high power microwave at the target eg. the US THOR project..

    Might be useful against a drone swarm, haven't seen too many of those used by Ukraine yet.





    And destroying a 1000 dollar drone with a tor missile isnt impractical? Russia should make a SPG with the AK-176 76mm or A-190 100mm gun like the OTOMATIC that fires EMP rounds.
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    Post  limb Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:09 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:https://peremogi.livejournal.com/64020029.html

    Denazification is in full swing: Ruina's losses, according to open sources, exceeded 100,000
    Internet activists have compiled a graph of confirmed ZSU losses based on open source data. Thus, the losses of the killed ukrovermacht amounted to more than 100,000 people, and this is not counting the missing, wounded and prisoners.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 4073689_original

    The high losses of the Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava regions are due to the fact that the inhabitants of these regions form the basis of the so-called UDA "Right Sector", which Zelensky throws into the thick of it. And also, most of the Nazi volunteer battalions are part of the 93rd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which has been rebuilt several times already.
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    And here is what the liberals from zona.media counted about the Russian troops:

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 28098_original

    At the same time, I would like to note that ours, unlike the Khikhils, do not even try to hide their losses. 
    On the contrary, every funeral is a media event at the local level - a farewell to a heroic countryman. By the way, not only funerals: memorial plaques are put up, “desks of heroes” are opened in schools. All with the participation of representatives of local authorities.

    On the contrary, they try to throw pigs in the fields. Not only the dead, but even the wounded. In order to hide the losses and not pay compensation - which, even those recognized as dead, seem to be clamped down. Ours, by the way, pay everything honestly.

    And even under such conditions, the ratio is more than 11:1 (however, the losses of the DPR and LPR are not taken into account here). What a ratio in reality - it's scary to even imagine. It's not really scary, but it's nice. But in any case, it's not big enough, of course. Even 1000:1 would be too little - because one Russian life is more valuable than all the stinking kuraina. A good ratio would be 30000000:0.



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    Post  AMCXXL Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:35 pm

    franco wrote:Zelensky's pipe dream https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1594315805759619072/photo/1 No

    Looks like a nice big cauldron to me Twisted Evil russia

    When the ukrowhermacht goes on the offensive, the bridges over the Dniepr will be destroyed and the entire ukro-army will be left without fuel or ammunition, it will be completely decimated in December and January

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    Post  Backman Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:03 pm

    So now the visits to Kiev are happening again.

    Putin is not a war time president and should step down. He gives the Bolsheviks shit for everything. But if they were conducting this war, Russia would have Odessa by now.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:36 pm

    limb wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote:https://peremogi.livejournal.com/64020029.html

    Denazification is in full swing: Ruina's losses, according to open sources, exceeded 100,000
    Internet activists have compiled a graph of confirmed ZSU losses based on open source data. Thus, the losses of the killed ukrovermacht amounted to more than 100,000 people, and this is not counting the missing, wounded and prisoners.

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 4073689_original

    The high losses of the Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava regions are due to the fact that the inhabitants of these regions form the basis of the so-called UDA "Right Sector", which Zelensky throws into the thick of it. And also, most of the Nazi volunteer battalions are part of the 93rd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which has been rebuilt several times already.
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    And here is what the liberals from zona.media counted about the Russian troops:

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #33 - Page 4 28098_original

    At the same time, I would like to note that ours, unlike the Khikhils, do not even try to hide their losses. 
    On the contrary, every funeral is a media event at the local level - a farewell to a heroic countryman. By the way, not only funerals: memorial plaques are put up, “desks of heroes” are opened in schools. All with the participation of representatives of local authorities.

    On the contrary, they try to throw pigs in the fields. Not only the dead, but even the wounded. In order to hide the losses and not pay compensation - which, even those recognized as dead, seem to be clamped down. Ours, by the way, pay everything honestly.

    And even under such conditions, the ratio is more than 11:1 (however, the losses of the DPR and LPR are not taken into account here). What a ratio in reality - it's scary to even imagine. It's not really scary, but it's nice. But in any case, it's not big enough, of course. Even 1000:1 would be too little - because one Russian life is more valuable than all the stinking kuraina. A good ratio would be 30000000:0.



    This post is a relief

    Would help to see the source and methodology.

    I myself estimated around 60k KIA, vs around 10k for the RF and 5k for LDNR+mercs (Wagner et al).

    All sides are rather secretive, and for Kiev it is imperative that true data doesn't get out (hence their la-la-land reports) but I will still doubt 100k+ until I can assess how exactly that number was reached.



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    Post  AMCXXL Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:40 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

    I myself estimated around 60k KIA, vs around 10k for the RF and 5k for LDNR+mercs (Wagner et al).


    This is based on obituaries found online, in the Ukrainian case it is even higher because there are dozens of thousands of "disappeared", that is, soldiers buried in the middle of the field whose identity is unknown because they were burned, charred or volatilized by artillery, MLRS and anti-tank missiles

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:44 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

    I myself estimated around 60k KIA, vs around 10k for the RF and 5k for LDNR+mercs (Wagner et al).


    This is based on obituaries found online, in the Ukrainian case it is even higher because there are dozens of thousands of "disappeared", that is, soldiers buried in the middle of the field whose identity is unknown because they were burned, charred or volatilized by artillery, MLRS and anti-tank missiles

    Well, that's what it says, yes. But the source?

    The graphic seems to originate from a TG channel called genshtab something. Are those the "internet activists" and do they have a more comprehensive report somewhere?
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:54 pm

    I am not quite sure what brought your attention here scratch dunno
    100k KIA on the Ukro side is a widely known factor. Some of the curators put that double 2 months ago ...
    Each day we have tens of them, filmed while busy "resting" in tranches or strongoints that have met the Buratino salvo ...
    Films with the cementaries up the horizon are notorious. And those are only ones who were lucky enough that somebody retrieved the body and identified it ...

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:57 pm

    ALAMO wrote:I am not quite sure what brought your attention here scratch dunno
    100k KIA on the Ukro side is a widely known factor. Some of the curators put that double 2 months ago ...
    Each day we have tens of them, filmed while busy "resting" in tranches or strongoints that have met the Buratino salvo ...
    Films with the cementaries up the horizon are notorious. And those are only ones who were lucky enough that somebody retrieved the body and identified it ...

    I'm not saying that I find it wholly implausible or whatever, on the contrary it does sound somewhat realistic.

    Me lowballing it is because of lack of hard data, it is safer. Hence me asking for the hard data indicating/proving 100k+, a random infographic proves nothing, regardless of how plausible the premise is.

    I'm well aware of the fields of graves with Ukrainian flags that have been filmed all over the place, but it is difficult to count them in a seconds-long video clip, tell one site apart from another, etc. It's an indication but not something you can derive any numbers from. 60k is also a whole lot of graves and would look the same, so to speak.
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    Post  ALAMO Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:05 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    I'm not saying that I find it wholly implausible or whatever, on the contrary it does sound somewhat realistic.
    Me lowballing it is because of lack of hard data, it is safer. Hence me asking for the hard data indicating/proving 100k+.

    If we have 20k killed only in the lates "great offensives" they have carried ... just paint the picture.
    The problem with this war is the fact, that it is being lied all way long, with the all western MSM on hands.
    I have watched some interview with a guy who was a war correspondent for the last 50 years. Took part in nine wars, as he described that. He has NEVER experienced the level of propaganda we have now, and that propaganda is one sided in 90%. Those are his words, not mine.
    The facts revealed by Musk, that 80% of Twitter are boots ...
    The study of the Adelaida Uni that up to 80% of the Twitter coverage is made by boots, and 80-90% of them are pro-404 ...
    All of that creates a sphere of information we live in.
    And build a scene.
    Devastating one.

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:12 pm

    limb wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:

    Well there are the consistent rumours/reports of EMP rounds being in development for at least the Koalitsiya

    There is a considerable amount of theory behind it
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t3442p25-russian-emp-weapons#281288

    Also there were reports about anti-air EMP warheads under development for TOR missiles

    Not the same, NEMP will take out the electronics in an entire city, or a country in the case of the Sakharov bomb theory.

    Using EMP warheads for basic air defense is impractical, that's why the don't do it.

    You could just shine a high power microwave at the target eg. the US THOR project..

    Might be useful against a drone swarm, haven't seen too many of those used by Ukraine yet.





    And destroying a 1000 dollar drone with a tor missile isnt impractical? Russia should make a SPG with the AK-176 76mm or A-190 100mm gun like the OTOMATIC that fires EMP rounds.

    Not a physicist, but the inverse square law applies to electromagnetics and I'm not sure how powerful an EMP device you can fit in a smallish shell like that. "Drone swarms" aren't like a thick cloud of starlings, they may be many hundreds or thousands of meters apart.

    The EMP shells I've heard about are designed to fry electronics in an encampment, building or so. Not over a very wide area like a nuclear-derived ditto is capable of.

    Ground-based directional jamming and cheap AA (guns, cheap missiles like the Pantsir's) seem to me the best ways to deal with it. That's what Russia did in Syria, right?

    I could be wrong, though.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:20 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    AMCXXL wrote:
    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

    I myself estimated around 60k KIA, vs around 10k for the RF and 5k for LDNR+mercs (Wagner et al).


    This is based on obituaries found online, in the Ukrainian case it is even higher because there are dozens of thousands of "disappeared", that is, soldiers buried in the middle of the field whose identity is unknown because they were burned, charred or volatilized by artillery, MLRS and anti-tank missiles

    Well, that's what it says, yes. But the source?

    The graphic seems to originate from a TG channel called genshtab something. Are those the "internet activists" and do they have a more comprehensive report somewhere?

    No, its online claims, so take it with a grain of salt people here will jump on anything that claims massive Ukie losses with no real proof, no doubt the Ukie losses are much higher than the Russian ones but what that actual number is? well its just a guess
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    Post  kvs Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:32 pm

    The map of KIA distributed by Ukraine oblasts is very telling. They are sending eastern "Ukrainian" (aka ethnic Russians) to die fighting
    against other ethnic Russians. The peak in the south of the Poland-adjacent part is also very informative. They are sending Rusyns to
    die for Banderite vermin running Kiev and residing in the same region.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:38 pm

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    Those missiles are older then independant Urkaine lol.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:41 pm

    kvs wrote:The map of KIA distributed by Ukraine oblasts is very telling. They are sending eastern "Ukrainian" (aka ethnic Russians) to die fighting
    against other ethnic Russians...

    If they are fighting Russians then I would say that they definitely aren't Russians



    kvs wrote:...The peak in the south of the Poland-adjacent part is also very informative. They are sending Rusyns to
    die for Banderite vermin running Kiev and residing in the same region.

    They knew what they signed up for, it's not like they don't have firearms, nobody can force you to do anything you don't want to if you have guns



    Nothing of value was lost, hopefully all Nazi lapdogs get shredded, less problems down the road







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