Russian special military operation in Ukraine #29

Isos wrote:Longer video of the s-300 under attack by lancet. I'm impressed they use them this effectively. The propaganda  work is also of better quality as they share real time video where you can see the target.

That new general in charge knows his job.

Lancet seems to be a much better drone than Kub. For close range it is a very good system and seem to use same guidance as izd 305 missiles. For longer range just buy license for iranian shahed drone.

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1582471470852472832

How is it physically possible for the lancet not to cause a massive fireball hitting the S-300, when as proven earlier in the war, even a single single AK bullet hitting the missile tube will cause it?

The lancet definitely hit something solid and not inflatable, but it easily couldve been some wooden mockup or unusable launcher.

The more important question is not how many S-300s are lancets destroying but how many more buk and S-300 missiles ukrainians have in stock after firing so many against russian cruise missiles.

Isos wrote:Longer video of the s-300 under attack by lancet. I'm impressed they use them this effectively. The propaganda  work is also of better quality as they share real time video where you can see the target.

You do know that they have been used all the time?
Just because they use now some propaganda style to let the Ukrops not sleep at night doesn´t mean they have been not using them.
The difference is they are A) publishing footage B) swarming them in bigger numbers.

Isos wrote:
That new general in charge knows his job.

Seems he does, however, seems he likes the online outcries by Ukrops just like you do.

Isos wrote:For close range it is a very good system and seem to use same guidance as izd 305 missiles. For longer range just buy license for iranian shahed drone.

You base this on what exactly?
I somehow doubt it has any capability for aided post image processing and analyzing capability.
It seems to just be a rather simplier version with less processing involved.

How is it physically possible for the lancet not to cause a massive fireball hitting the S-300, when as proven earlier in the war, even a single single AK bullet hitting the missile tube will cause it?

Empty tubes/launchers or they are indeed decoys. That one picture looks like it has a deformed tube, either damaged or some low-effort decoy. Decoys for a tactical relevant system is certainly a wise and necessary decision, especially if you only have left so many and no means to repair or replace them.

To me it looks like it was just that the tubes were empty. The impact did cause a fire in the vicinity and the Ukrainians tried to quickly put the fire out.

Broski wrote:Now General Surovikin is put in charge of 300k conscripts...

Reservists, not conscripts. The guys were contract soldiers.



That old space comm array was destroyed today.

Source: Moon of Alabama

You base this on what exactly?
I somehow doubt it has any capability for aided post image processing and analyzing capability.
It seems to just be a rather simplier version with less processing involved.

Thry already said 305 is using the same datalink made for drones. And you can see both correct their trajectory the same way. Go compare their videos you will see the same. The operator click on the image where the drone or missile need to go and they both correct their trajectory the same way.

You do know that they have been used all the time?
Just because they use now some propaganda style to let the Ukrops not sleep at night doesn´t mean they have been not using them.
The difference is they are A) publishing footage B) swarming them in bigger numbers.

They were never shy sharing such footages. It's just that they are using them now to hunt AD.

IMO they were jealous of iranian drone success so they speed up lancet production and ask the amry to use them against valuable targets.

Before september and I should say before the summer, they mainly used the kub which plenty of time missed its target by few meters. Lancet was barely used for testing both in Syria and Ukraine. Very few to no footage of it. Now since september they mainly use lancet which is much better than kub.

lancelot wrote:To me it looks like it was just that the tubes were empty. The impact did cause a fire in the vicinity and the Ukrainians tried to quickly put the fire out.

If the tubes were empty, why werent their caps already blown off?

That new general in charge knows his job.

Could be any russian General. The political guidelines changed. That´s it.

 For longer range just buy license for iranian shahed drone.

There are rumours that the "iranian" drone was in fact designed by a russian company, most likely ZALA (not the other way around). Just like the Chinese attack helicopter which was designed by Kamov. The Iranians put the drone into producion first, now Russia benefits from their experience in production and using the stuff. This partnership started years ago.

lancelot wrote:To me it looks like it was just that the tubes were empty. The impact did cause a fire in the vicinity and the Ukrainians tried to quickly put the fire out.

They said that for the first video. Now this one is longer and it shows what looks like a command post of the s-300 moving after the launch was hit, and getting hit after it stoped between two buildings.

Decoys won't be moved during an attack.

Hole wrote:
That old space comm array was destroyed today.

Where is this thing ? That's kinda sad.

Soviet era deep-space network or one of the station AFAIK was in Yevpatoria in Crimea.

Hole wrote:

That new general in charge knows his job.

Could be any russian General. The political guidelines changed. That´s it.

 For longer range just buy license for iranian shahed drone.

There are rumours that the "iranian" drone was in fact designed by a russian company, most likely ZALA (not the other way around). Just like the Chinese attack helicopter which was designed by Kamov. The Iranians put the drone into producion first, now Russia benefits from their experience in production and using the stuff. This partnership started years ago.

I don't buy it. Iranian improved their drones by capturing israeli and US drones. They have auch more mature drone technology than russia for smaller and cheaper drones. Not jet power drone like s70 however.

Kamov helped but didn't develop all the chopper. Almaz antei also helped south korea with its SAM. And developed s-350 after that. That doesn't mean they can produce them.

Isos wrote:They already have such jammers.

So does Russia

Thing is you can't have those jammers everywhere

According to some sources circulating online, up to 70 000 soldiers and reservists from the AFU were stationed along the northern border of Ukraine. Probable location and number
There were also some reports that Ukraine brings there young cadets,because their main army is on East of Ukraine,anyway if this is true,which might be,a lot of AFU soldiers that can be used on other places will be kept busy here,which is good
Almost 70% is a teritorial defense Army...Even if this is true,combat effectivnes of the teritorial defense Army is always with far smaller potential then regular Army...
If Union State Army cross the border and move on to Kiev,there is almost nothing that AFU can do and Union troops can hold Kiev under pressure for a very very long time,which will be huge headache for Kiev totalitarian junta...

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1582354054939754498/photo/1

ucmvulcan wrote:
The relatively small amount of troops being sent to Ukraine suggests to me the main blow is going to be elsewhere. The question is, where.  Donbass? Finish up in Donetsk? Maybe.  Odessa, Nikolayevsk? Maybe. Kharkov again? Maybe.  I don't think the main blow is going to be Kiev though, not nearly enough troops.  However, I do see an offensive coming because of what is being hit.  

Don´t look at Belarus. This is most likely a distraction (maskirovka). The attack will come most likely from the Belgorod region. To cut off the "victorious" UkroNazi troops in the eastern part of the region. And to push pressure on the regime to relocate troops again. Maybe to cut off Kharkov from the rest.

The troops in Belarus could be there to secure the NPP in Rivne(?) region. They could also secure part of the western border which would make it more difficult for the regime to get supplies from the west.

Jesus, America is running out of ammo (12:00), literally.

flamming_python wrote:

billybatts91 wrote:No massive offensives? I don't like the sound of that. This "slowly grinding the enemy down" bullshit is not working as Ukraine will always have enough replacements and weaponry, since the West will fight to the last Ukrainian. I hope this is a trick by the general to confuse the Ukrainians. While Ukraine takes massive amounts of land, Russia only takes very little and goes too slow imo.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1582425749948346369

This appears to be exact inverse of what he said about NATO brainwashed hordes and forcing the Ukraine's surrender in one swoop

Assuming he actually said that of course

So I wouldn't put too much stock in what he says publicly. First one thing, then it's opposite.
Generals are not men of words, but men of action.

I hope you're right here...

J.R.R Tolkien forsaw this war and wrote about it in the Silmarillion.

In the late 2nd Age, Dark Lord Sauron (Zelensky) had built up his power in Mordor (Ukropistan) and openly declared himself King of the World, enraging the Numenoreans (Russia) that launched a great force to depose him. At the sight of the great host arrayed against them, the Dark Lords army of Orcs (banderites) and Evil Men (sheep-dipped NATO troops posing as mercs) fled the field. All hope of a military victory now dashed, Sauron was forced to surrender and he was taken back in chains to Armenelos (Moscow).

Now all that remains is to ensure that Sauron doesn't whisper poisoned words into the ear of the Numenorean King Ar-Pharazon (Putin) and convince him that Eternal Life can be his if he can ony take control of Valinor (China).

Ar-Pharazon is too wise to allow such a thing, and I won't be concerned unless a Temple of Morgoth (Stephan Bandera) is built in the Capital, and Zelensky becomes the High Priest and is allowed to sacrifice the Kings Men (Russian patriots) to his Dark God.

caveat emptor wrote:

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1582425749948346369

This is a dangerous level of delusion. This is like listening to Putin's speech.

Did anyone seriously believe that he was revealing the plans of the general staff? Hahaha X-D

This was a political speech nothing more and less...the changes in military situation everyone can observe on the ground.

By the way...a real big offensive would be too costly for Russia. Let them grind down the enemy and advance in a acceptable speed. Sooner or later Ukraine will collapse...so the advance will speed up.

My only criticism was that Russia deployed too few soldiers for defense of Kharkov and Kherson region...not enough, so they were forced to retreat. The difference between retreat and holding the line was 20-30k soldiers....not more! Soon they will have more than 500000 soldiers at disposal...please compare this with 1 month ago. Victory is inevitable!

mnztr wrote:

Erk wrote:

mnztr wrote:i was watching Putins press conference in Astana. One of the journalists brought up the case where a person with no military experience was conscripted as part of the mobilization, sent to Ukraine and killed. He is to be buried this week. Quite shocking. You could tell even Putin was disturbed by this. I was under the impression the mobilization troops were to be sent to relieve contract soldiers stationed in other parts of Russia. Now I have misgivings about how this is being handled. Sending green troops like this into conflict will result in huge losses.

How do you know the journalist asking Putin the question got his facts correct?

The "green troops" claim may be fiction, considering 12mths. military service is a requirement in Russia for all male citizens ages 18–27.
It use to be 2years up until 2008 when the rule changed.

Putin had the facts, he said 16K troops are already with in their units. Some are on the front lines. He said the line of contact is over 1000 km so its not really avoidable. there are many that get exemptions from mandatory military service.  watch it draw your own opinion.  

The transcript is here no need to watch a video http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/69588

I am sure Putin had facts, but that's not what I asked you, I ask if the journalists got his facts right, not Putin.

Prove your claim that the soldiers that died were "green"

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Ukraine is Varangia.

No, Ukraine is Vagina.

Made to be shafted, used for the pleasure of others, ultimately to be abandoned as a soiled mess once the inevitable outcome results.

kvs wrote:For the resident 6th column troll, one's heritage does not determine automatically how one thinks.   I have sympathy for
my western Ukrainian side of the family but I am not a Bandera-tard.   Or some poser like you who is trying to act like
a Russian uber-patriot but is clearly working one way or another for Russia's enemies.

There is a common thread with clowns who designate themselves as experts on the war.   The Gonzalo Lira video with RWA
shows that RWA is full of shit.   They actually believe that Kiev has 700,000 soldiers.   The f*ck it does.   It lost 200,000+
already so that would mean it managed to raise its million man army.   Sure and pigs fly over the icy wastes of Hell.   Where
are these 700,000 soldiers?   None of Kiev's big offensives even any substantial fraction of 100,000 thrown at the Russian
lines.   Are the other 650,000+ just twiddling their thumbs?   Maybe they are en route from Lwow or something...

Maybe they have 700k soldiers but they can use only a fraction. Most are Volkssturm!

They rally in Kherson now ~60k soldiers for a offensive against russian positions. If the offensive fails Ukraine will lose offensive capabilities for at least 6 months...and the mercenaries will leave the sinking ship faster than you can look.

Azi wrote:

kvs wrote:For the resident 6th column troll, one's heritage does not determine automatically how one thinks.   I have sympathy for
my western Ukrainian side of the family but I am not a Bandera-tard.   Or some poser like you who is trying to act like
a Russian uber-patriot but is clearly working one way or another for Russia's enemies.

There is a common thread with clowns who designate themselves as experts on the war.   The Gonzalo Lira video with RWA
shows that RWA is full of shit.   They actually believe that Kiev has 700,000 soldiers.   The f*ck it does.   It lost 200,000+
already so that would mean it managed to raise its million man army.   Sure and pigs fly over the icy wastes of Hell.   Where
are these 700,000 soldiers?   None of Kiev's big offensives even any substantial fraction of 100,000 thrown at the Russian
lines.   Are the other 650,000+ just twiddling their thumbs?   Maybe they are en route from Lwow or something...

Maybe they have 700k soldiers but they can use only a fraction. Most are Volkssturm!

They rally in Kherson now ~60k soldiers for a offensive against russian positions. If the offensive fails Ukraine will lose offensive capabilities for at least 6 months...and the mercenaries will leave the sinking ship faster than you can look.

There isn't 60K troops of Ukraine in Kherson.  That all came from 1 newspaper in Ukraine.

I know Alexander Mercourus mentioned about it and the fact that there really isn't much info and evidence of such. A large grouping would be rather easier to see.

Big_Gazza wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

Ukraine is Varangia.

No, Ukraine is Vagina.

Made to be shafted, used for the pleasure of others, ultimately to be abandoned as a soiled mess once the inevitable outcome results.  

That's why every Russian soldier gets Viagra at frontline! Hahaha

Best western propaganda lie ever!

sepheronx wrote:

Azi wrote:

kvs wrote:For the resident 6th column troll, one's heritage does not determine automatically how one thinks.   I have sympathy for
my western Ukrainian side of the family but I am not a Bandera-tard.   Or some poser like you who is trying to act like
a Russian uber-patriot but is clearly working one way or another for Russia's enemies.

There is a common thread with clowns who designate themselves as experts on the war.   The Gonzalo Lira video with RWA
shows that RWA is full of shit.   They actually believe that Kiev has 700,000 soldiers.   The f*ck it does.   It lost 200,000+
already so that would mean it managed to raise its million man army.   Sure and pigs fly over the icy wastes of Hell.   Where
are these 700,000 soldiers?   None of Kiev's big offensives even any substantial fraction of 100,000 thrown at the Russian
lines.   Are the other 650,000+ just twiddling their thumbs?   Maybe they are en route from Lwow or something...

Maybe they have 700k soldiers but they can use only a fraction. Most are Volkssturm!

They rally in Kherson now ~60k soldiers for a offensive against russian positions. If the offensive fails Ukraine will lose offensive capabilities for at least 6 months...and the mercenaries will leave the sinking ship faster than you can look.

There isn't 60K troops of Ukraine in Kherson.  That all came from 1 newspaper in Ukraine.

I know Alexander Mercourus mentioned about it and the fact that there really isn't much info and evidence of such. A large grouping would be rather easier to see.

I don't know if it's true or not...but Kherson region is preparing for a good and tough fight!