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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:16 pm

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    Post  Hole Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:18 pm

    flamming_python wrote:I do second the opinion of others though that Krasnyj Liman should have been held, for both propaganda and humanitarian value. It's a very cynical move to not reinforce it given that this is now officially Russian territory, and Russia may find that the propaganda and morale damage will be serious enough to override whatever it wants to achieve in deception.
    If the Nazi´s commit crimes again against the civilian population it´s their own responsibility. Not that of Russia.

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    Post  limb Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:27 pm

    Hole wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:I do second the opinion of others though that Krasnyj Liman should have been held, for both propaganda and humanitarian value. It's a very cynical move to not reinforce it given that this is now officially Russian territory, and Russia may find that the propaganda and morale damage will be serious enough to override whatever it wants to achieve in deception.
    If the Nazi´s commit crimes again against the civilian population it´s their own responsibility. Not that of Russia.

    They recieve no consequences. they're safe sipping coffee and posting on twitter in cherkassy, rovno, sumy, etc after murdering russian civilians.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:28 pm

    Hole wrote:...Really funny that the guy (PapaDragon) who talked for weeks that this is only the first year of the war, that Russia has to take her time to kill as many Nazis as possible, is always there with some dumb remarks about the utterly failing Russians. Rolling Eyes

    They should be having much easier time killing them

    And let's not forget that this is now on Russian territory, they should have kept the paperwork in the drawer until they finished the job on that particular location

    And why did just 500 guys have to get stuck with that much workload?

    They could be killing those apes without all this dumb song and dance routine

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:28 pm

    limb wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    What do you think about that, General LIMB ?





    Just wishful thinking, like the all those other super-imminent 4D chess offensives.



    Shall we wait and see, blue-yellow General Limb ?

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    Post  limb Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:29 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    limb wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    What do you think about that, General LIMB ?





    Just wishful thinking, like the all those other super-imminent 4D chess offensives.



    Shall we wait and see, blue-yellow General Limb ?

    Yes. Ill be happy to be proven wrong, so i get my mind off of this shitshow.

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    Post  limb Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:30 pm

    Backman wrote:Some counter doom. Yay Neutral From ASBattlefield Insights

    It is reported that only 500 Lugansk Cossacks and Cuban Cossacks (volunteers from Russia) were defending Lyman / Krasny Liman for around 2 weeks.

    Russian Armed Forces 20th Guards Combined Arms Army were providing long range artillery support without any frontline presence, according to Russian reports over the weeks.

    Ukrainian forces attacking the settlement were numbering 6 to 9 thousand troops.

    Lyman / Krasny Lyman has received a disproportionate amount of attention. We have never focused on this settlement, not in May, not in September. We never reported on it in depth. In our opinion, there’s one far more important battle taking place, and that is the battle for Bakhmut.


    Lyman is another Snake Island. At the moment, it is the only place where the Ukrainian armed forces offensive succeeded: so it is being reported on extensively. The offensive has failed everywhere else along the entire frontline; especially in Kherson. This can always change, but factually, the only party at the moment capturing strategically important territory is the Russian side in the southern direction, specifically in Bakhmut.

    But artemovsk and its outlying settlements havent been taken for 4 months now. Thats not a success.
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    Post  Hole Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:32 pm

    Backman wrote:Russian Armed Forces 20th Guards Combined Arms Army were providing long range artillery support without any frontline presence, according to Russian reports over the weeks.
    What does this little piece of info tell us?

    Bueller? Bueller? Anybody?

    Forces of the 20th Guards Combined Arms Army are in artillery range of the "battlezone" but didn´t send their tanks and AIFV´s to "rescue" the poor little town. Because the General Staff wants it that way. Because they got a plan and the fucking armchair generals here don´t.

    And this operation not the responsibility of a single General. Does really somebody believe that Shoigu and Gerassimov are begging the commanding General on their knees to send some reinforcements but he declines? Or that this other General with relatives in Kiev is sabotaging the whole operation but is kept in command because he looks good or knows something about Shoigu or Putin?

    The attackers are mostly badly trained guys with assault rifles, a handful of old tanks and APC´s and less artillery then one russian BTG can offer. Without air support. If someone here really thinks that such a "force" could hold out more then one hour against one tank batallion he should better leave this forum asap.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:34 pm

    limb wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    limb wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    What do you think about that, General LIMB ?





    Just wishful thinking, like the all those other super-imminent 4D chess offensives.



    Shall we wait and see, blue-yellow General Limb ?

    Yes. Ill be happy to be proven wrong, so i get my mind off of this shitshow.



    Finally, something smart from you, that is to admit that you are nobody and nothing and you don't decide on anything. I wrote the same for myself a long time ago, I have no problem with it, so all the whining is unnecessary. Let it be decided by people who know a lot more. Russia will trample Ukroshitstan, slowly and painfully.. The end !


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    Post  Regular Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:36 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:The f did all these doomers come from???

    Kadyrov gave birth to more dooming, there are people who want decisive actions and he is one of them. It’s pretty simple.

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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:38 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:

    This one is fancy.. basically something like Morfei but use infra red guidance. Good news.. they're short ranged. bad news ? they're fire and forget and wont need specific radar for target engagement. It also have higher performance than Strela. It might now threaten target at high altitude.

    Fortunately.. Geran/shahid can decoy them

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    Post  Regular Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:40 pm

    Very interesting system, Russia airforce after this will have great experience with various AD systems. At this point I want to see more NATO toys sent to Ukraine and larger numbers. Even with the crews as “volunteers”. Too bad about the tanks, wanted to see how they would fair. Hopefully we will see more modern IFVs, maybe marders replacing BWP-1/BMP-1 and Patria/Rosomaks replacing BTR-3/4
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    Post  Stealthflanker Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:55 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    Basically my disappointment is in that soft power and propaganda really does matter, you cannot just wish it away.
    No matter what the morale of units at the front, the home front can be seriously damaged unless Russia does start to take its image seriously and drive back the Ukrs from the land they've taken. And just in general, make a show of taking more land rapidly. Even if it gets more of our soldiers killed. I'm afraid this may be the only thing that can appease the chorus of chicken hawks and chicken littles.

    can't agree more.

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    Post  Hole Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:56 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:18 pm

    Regular wrote:
    AlfaT8 wrote:The f did all these doomers come from???

    Kadyrov gave birth to more dooming, there are people who want decisive actions and he is one of them. It’s pretty simple.

    Ooh i am all for decisive action, believe me.

    But i also understood that there a lot of shit happening in the background trying to bring a political solution to this insanity.

    Now it is clear to all that handycapping of the Russian military has led to F all.

    In short, the politicians have had their chance, now it is time for the military to do what they do best, and bring Russia's full military might to bear.

    Yes, it is overkill, but looking at the lunacy in the ranks of Western leaders, it is clear that a demonstration of merciless force is well in order.

    The people of Ukraine have had more then enough time to get the hell out of the killzone, may god have mercy on the poor souls still trapped where they are.

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    Post  caveat emptor Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:31 pm

    If we take critique of Kadyrov, Prigozhin and Gurulyov at face value, some heads will roll. Kadyrov and Prigozhin are very powerful people, even more so since the SMO started and Gurulyov is high ranking ex-military commander now politician.

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:40 pm

    Reason why we lost is because Motorola and Givi were not in command.

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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:47 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Wow, you're so cool man.....such a cool optimist and are giving us "doomsdayers" the business huh? Nothing is important I guess. Whenever the Russians lose ground, meh, it wasn't important anyways. What a great attitude you have.

    Meanwhile in Lyman.........
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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:56 pm

    I'm gonna act like all these delusional optimists now.....



    "Meh, who cares? So let the Ukrainians take more of Luhansk, that's not important in the large scheme of things, who cares? You doomsdayers make me laugh, ha ha ha ha ha!!! Severodonetsk is a small place anyways, so what, who cares?"

    Now I feel good about myself lol...It's nice to live in delusion and fantasy land...it really is, it's fun...
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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:56 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Wow, you're so cool man.....such a cool optimist and are giving us "doomsdayers" the business huh? Nothing is important I guess. Whenever the Russians lose ground, meh, it wasn't important anyways. What a great attitude you have.

    Meanwhile in Lyman.........


    They will pay for everything soon..
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    Post  zorobabel Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:00 pm

    As for where next, AFU are advancing on Kremennaya, with clashes reported on the city's outskirts. So they are continuing the northward advance.
    https://t.me/swodki/170833
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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:02 pm

    Podlodka77 wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Wow, you're so cool man.....such a cool optimist and are giving us "doomsdayers" the business huh? Nothing is important I guess. Whenever the Russians lose ground, meh, it wasn't important anyways. What a great attitude you have.

    Meanwhile in Lyman.........


    They will pay for everything soon..

    They won't, if Russia continues fighting the way they have been.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:04 pm

    billybatts91 wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:
    billybatts91 wrote:
    Hole wrote:
    Podlodka77 wrote:Mercouris predicts the advance of the Russian army in the direction of the city of Zaporozhye or to the south - Nikolaev and Odessa.
    Even the Great Doomsdayer No. 1, the General Field Marshal and High Lord of the Armed Forces of Donbass Strelkov thinks that Krasny Liman is not important. But some dudes here are running havoc.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Wow, you're so cool man.....such a cool optimist and are giving us "doomsdayers" the business huh? Nothing is important I guess. Whenever the Russians lose ground, meh, it wasn't important anyways. What a great attitude you have.

    Meanwhile in Lyman.........


    They will pay for everything soon..

    They won't, if Russia continues fighting the way they have been.

    So Ukroshitstan will soon occupy Rostov, Belgorod and Kursk ? Very Happy

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Oct 01, 2022 11:05 pm

    I a had a great day.
    Great workout, little bit flirting in the gym and then I come home and read the verbal diarrhea of elder berry munching doomers crew...

    You guys are funny as hell. I always was interested in psychopaths and genuine stupidity as a side project for story I was doing for a video game, but I am genuinely curious ...you guys dumb or paid to play dumb?

    Edit: I really hope you doing this doomer's crap as volunteers and just waste personal time with zero effect. The active members on this forum a certainly not dimwits who will be on the doomer's train of hype and if you guys are paid then damn...you really choose a small and the wrong audience.


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