Wow so the curtain dropped huh???
I wonder what all the bloomers on the forum will say to this lmao
The faggots are getting real excited... the "told you so BS" is amusing... but didn't they blame Putin and Shoigu... now they are blaming other guys... what gives... if they were right it would be Putin and Shoigu that were gone so their support for nazis proves their loyalty to the blue and yellow of nazism in the 21st C.
If I wanted to set a trap, I would have ordered a feint attack allow some fighting to go on then pull back and once a good number of ukie troops cross, I'd order a pincer, destroy the crossing network with my AF, trap and kill all the enemy units.
The trap is an ongoing trap which is a tactic... lightly defend and when the enemy forms up to attack, kill as many as you can and withdraw when you need to while inflicting as much damage to the enemy as possible... it has been what they have been doing for quite some time.
To do what you suggest would require those mobilised men to be fully trained and ready and already near the front lines... I though you knew what you were talking about? You claimed you did.
Its been weeks now since the Ukro Nazis continue to make gains in the Kharkov direction, every time I take a pause from checking the latest update and then take a peek after a few days, the situation keeps getting more and more frustrating.
Gains in terrain and loses in men and material...
I hope kadyrov names more potbellies. That Lapin asshole couldntve been the only one. Theres also Andrei Sychevoi, the guy who commanded the decence of balakleya and kupyansk.
Probably many more.
But you already fired Putin and Shoigu... no need to fire anyone else is there?
Using tactical nukes would end the war quicker though, there is that.
Except that no, it actually would not.
You get the idea, it's a repeating story
From moskva, Liman, Belgorovka, Saki,
The men in charge there have no business at such a position
Why do you think those admirals and generals were all dismissed?
They belong as NCO, but not in command
It just sucks this is how they are learning
You are a genius that can tell by looking at a photo... didn't you demand Putin and Shoigu resign?
Won't talk about the Russian navy, since they're absolute trash, given what happened at saki, moskva, and berdyansk.
Yeah, those guys fighting and dying are a bunch of losers... take a break... two weeks.
So why isn't Putin or someone responsible for overseeing the SMO appointing these commanders to take care of the operation?
Putin has other things he needs to be doing, like running a country that is currently splitting from the west.
The Military does not need Putin to micromanage the conflict for them.
The thing is that how long this kind of "maneuvering warfare" sustainable ?
From what i see, the more land lost means more place for Ukrainian artilleries and fortifications. More "punitive" attack by Ukraine to cities in integrated territory. That can create civil unrest and help pr-ukrainian inside those territory to spread more discontent. and those who wants to integrate to Russia in Odessa and Nikolaev may lost hope. People will definitely asking question why the defense is getting closer to where they stay instead pushing farther.
The tactics will now change that these areas are now Russian territories and not independent of Ukrainian territories.
But they can't just change tactics overnight... they need to send in more troops and different formations...
I want to laugh... Bring out the Ukronazi to kill a lot of them?
Well, the Russian army doesn't kill many, because the victories so far are ukrainian! What an effective tactic!
The sad thing is that you don't understand what defines a victory. Russian troops with low casualties withdrawing safely is not a defeat.
Of course not, the cowards can't even defend Lyman properly, nukes are off the table for these weaklings, for sure...Putin wouldn't want to upset the West like that, heaven's noooo!!!
The Russian forces are now cowards.... take two weeks Billy.
What about using high yield conventional bombs, like FOABs and so on? What’s the reason to have them then if not for this and avoid nuclear escalation?
High yield bombs are for very specific targets like bio weapons labs you want to fully destroy but also incinerate the contents...
How about actually having competent command and control and logistics?
How do you determine the competent from the incompetent... except in combat?
They've tried valiantly to hold Krasny Liman under difficult circumstances but in the end they had to withdraw to straighten the line so to speak.
If they actually wanted to hold it at all costs wouldn't they have used more than 500 men?
Sure it is a ***up, but again it is only temporary. Also - Nothing wrong with constructive criticism, but what is becoming more and more apparent as we go along is the number of Nazi trolls coming out of the closet.
A fuckup would have been leaving the men there to fight to the death or be completely encircled and captured... neither of which happened.
The bitches crying are crying for the civilians who stayed behind... and think the solution is military escalation that kills way more civilians... brilliant.
Everyone sane is hitting the panic button...as they should.
No... the same pussies have been hammering that panic button since day one because nothing that is done is to their satisfaction.
Mission is already accomplished... the US has destroyed the German economy and soon only Russian and Chinese machine tools will be available to buy on the international market... the EU is being destroyed by the US and the US is destroying itself and alienating itself from the rest of the world who have not joined in the western sanctions showing the international community is not the west at all... these are enormous fundamental victories that in the long term will be critical to the future of our planet.
The post was sarcasm, from our resident doomer
More Kiev propaganda you mean... feeding the doomers their gruel.
But hang on Ark already fired him...
Almost as if you can't take one persons word about generals and have to hear from a few different people to form a realistic opinion...
Sounds like bad news for the doomers who fired Putin and Shoigu on the first day...
There are many mistakes to iron out, which the fanbois unfortunately never wanted to admit.
Mistakes are normal and often can't be avoided, war is a fluid situation where reaction times are not generous... they have made the choice that they will not hold every piece of territory they occupy... some places they will reinforce and defend and others they wont.
They are using a small fraction of the number of men the enemy is using and they are chewing the enemy force up continuously... a withdrawal this week is not a big problem because 300K new troops are on their way and when they decide to attack when they are ready the Orcs really don't have the numbers to stop them.
But I recommend what I have already recommended to the fanbois. Stay realistic and cool!
The fanboys are ice cool, it is the doomsayers that panic with every bit of news... Putin is about to surrender... well why not you guys have fired him hundreds of times during this conflict... why wouldn't he surrender?
Only good that can come out of it is that it lights a fire underneath the Russian side and they step their games up in this conflict, which I see is happening from what I'm reading, so that's a positive at least.
They have been steadily killing Orcs for months now... they don't need any fires lit under them.
Someone is responsible, they should be identified and fired
Putin is equally responsible as the #1 honcho
In any organization, corporate, racing team, sports
The buck stops with the leader and so it is with Russia
I identify you then... two weeks seems to be the pattern...
When will we see a proper Russian counter attack? when Ukro Nazis are on Moscow's doorsteps?
Some people have the patience of Gold Fish.... what is the hurry?
RUSSIA! Russia is losing russian territory! Liman is Donetsk not Kharkov for all you retards who can't read a map!
A week ago it wasn't Russian territory. This is war... this happens in war... and these nazis are paying in blood... and will continue to do so.
He's even talking about using nukes (lol). It does seem like someone high-up wants to create the impression of disaster and mismanagement.
Plenty of ex generals and politicians in the west talking about nukes as well... it is probably a good idea to keep mentioning them to remind everyone where escalation eventually leads to.
I'm thinking Russia is satisfied as long as they do keep coming
They have launched a major offensive with this army they have been building up for 6 months and so far have to show for it some reconquered territory in Kharkov and a captured town in the Donbass.
Keeping in mind that this Orc force is supposed to end up in Crimea before winter sets in... according to Zelensky... but only if the west gives them enough weapons.
So it is the wests fault if they don't make it this winter.
I do second the opinion of others though that Krasnyj Liman should have been held, for both propaganda and humanitarian value. It's a very cynical move to not reinforce it given that this is now officially Russian territory, and Russia may find that the propaganda and morale damage will be serious enough to override whatever it wants to achieve in deception.
Has it been ratified yet... the referendum is not enough to make the thing official... it is not a done deal till the various parts of the Russian federation sign off on it completely.
Not defending it was consistent with how they were operating before... these referendums will cause a change in Phases and tactics I suspect but they can't transition from one to the other overnight.
And why did just 500 guys have to get stuck with that much workload?
They could be killing those apes without all this dumb song and dance routine
The location was not deemed important to the Russian side, but the orcs seemed to be fixated about it.
Let them take it at enormous cost... it will be taken back with interest.
Finally, something smart from you, that is to admit that you are nobody and nothing and you don't decide on anything. I wrote the same for myself a long time ago, I have no problem with it, so all the whining is unnecessary. Let it be decided by people who know a lot more. Russia will trample Ukroshitstan, slowly and painfully.. The end !
He is entertaining himself winding you guys up.
Now it is clear to all that handycapping of the Russian military has led to F all.
People keep saying that, but minimum Russian soldier losses and significant Orc losses is hardly **** all.
They weren't handicapped... they were just ordered not to level everything and avoid killing civilans... which is normal in war most of the time.
The people of Ukraine have had more then enough time to get the hell out of the killzone, may god have mercy on the poor souls still trapped where they are.
Now that they are defending Russian territory the tactics should change and the amount of effort can be scaled up... but I also hope they target Ukrainian oligarchs and their properties and resources as well as the enemy political leadership and minions too... the nazi infrastructure essentially.
Also those in power with US passports that were appointed to oversee Americas new colony... once those rats start to leave then average Ukrainians can take back their country and they can get rid of their own nazis and secure their own borders and then invite Russian observer forces to observe their referendum on their future with options Moscow approves of, with details like their structure and boundaries etc etc.
That can be the neutral bit but the entire south coast can be Russian first.
Once the Americans and other pro nazis have been purged it would be interesting to see what the wishes of the actual people might be... joining a HATO country or the EU wont be an option of course.
I suspect a lot will realise Russia will pay for repairs and infrastructure like Kiev and the west never did... I think joining Russia might be more appealing to the more practical citizens than the west believes.
The west had the Ukraine for 8 years and made an awful mess... asset stripped the place so the only jobs were for hookers and farmers.
Always insults, never any arguments supporting your PoV
You quote sources that are likely paid western trolls... how can he compete?
Why should I believe that Kremennaya will be successfully dfended when izyum fell after balakleya was taken?
That is the fun thing about war... your belief means nothing at all.
Here, now we are going to be extremely cultural. And then what is the next course of events, Limb, since according to you everything has failed ?
Can we expect the complete liberation of the liberated territories and the invasion of Russia by Ukroshitstan ?
From your messages and the messages of people who think like you, one can guess exactly that..
He is reading from Zelenskys play book... the plan was to get to the Crimea by the start of winter...
When the Ukronazis were saying they were “tactically withdrawing” and calling lost towns unimportant, you made copium jokes
They were getting pushed back by numerically smaller forces with better mobility and fire power.
Now they have amassed a much larger force they can push back in specific places... but not places that are important... I am sure Kiev would rather take the NPP plant the Russians occupy and I am sure they want to cut off water to the Crimea as well... but instead they encircle a small group of Russian forces in Liman who after weeks of fighting are forced to withdraw just as they are about to be encircled.
but seeing videos of the Nazis gleefully showing our casualties and abusing POW’s left behind, still leaves a bad taste regardless of what happens going forward..
Exactly what tactics do you prescribe to prevent any POWs and anybody being left behind in normal military operations?
The enemy do have special forces... they could send snatch teams to get more support convoy drives to cut their balls off and murder brutally on camera for their US overlords to masturbate to.
Nazis are nazis... and what Russia is doing to their country is the only solution.
They will make their own fun but there will come a time when their fun comes and bites them in the ass... and doomsaying bitches crying because this or that town was lost will ignore that the last few weeks they lost quite a few fellow nazis, and over the next few weeks they will lose even more.
Mate you called me an Ukronazi lover because I was concerned about Donbass territories falling,
No. the doomsayers get that label for helping Kiev spread their BS propaganda.