Russian special military operation in Ukraine #22

Regular wrote:We know very little what’s going on there. Ukrainians are in a blackout, but so are the Russians. In reality I don’t think Ukrainians were allowed to assemble effective attacking force like they claim. Even Italian (!!!) Leopard 2A6 statement sounds like BS.

Real extent will be seen when dust will settle. It shouldn’t take long.

That has to be a mistake. Italy is using domestic tanks, according to what i know, and not Leopard.

flamming_python wrote:

Regular wrote:We know very little what’s going on there. Ukrainians are in a blackout, but so are the Russians. In reality I don’t think Ukrainians were allowed to assemble effective attacking force like they claim. Even Italian (!!!) Leopard 2A6 statement sounds like BS.

Real extent will be seen when dust will settle. It shouldn’t take long.

You can tell by all the ambulances, Ukrainian MoD going draconian over battlefield reports, Western MSM silence, various photos and videos, and so on

I have never seen anything like what is happening now.

These are War of the Worlds kinds of casualties the Ukrainians are enduring.
And most amazing of all, they keep sending troops in to certain death with no chance of survival.

The Ukrainians have nowhere to hide, nowhere to go.
it is all open terrain, they do not have air dominance. no artillery support.
They can not even lay smoke to cover their troops.

The "enemy" has the complete terrain pre-dialed in with rapid fire artillery.
And clearly drones everywhere providing real-time information.
Perfect weather, giving Russia's assets the best advantages.

At night, the Ukrainians are at the total mercy of RF's Night Hunters.
try to radio Command, and RF EW will triangulate your position.
If your troops do not adhere to the strictest of Light and Heat discipline, an Artillery strike is inbound.
We all have seen the footage of RF troops standing well within 40MM AGL range of Ukrainian encampments before they open fire.

This is an slaughter of Ukrainian troops, send by their NATO overlords to Death that still do not understand the RF Military.

https://tass.com/defense/1502193 This is fucked up man and that is creating uncontrolled viruses to kill off civilians of different countries. Answers are needed and how the problems are going to be addressed to not happen again. Or the Russians might be keen on creating biological weapons in Mexico in response.

flamming_python wrote:
Don't know about him, but I'll take his daughter for sure

Careful buddy, she has some Leon the Professional vibes going on.

Military observation

US press: The use of A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircaft in Ukraine is impossible due to the superiority of the Russian Air Force




Ukraine is in great need for military aviation, in recent months the losses of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have reached catastrophic proportions. This is especially reflected in the Su-25 attack aircraft, which provide direct support to ground forces on the battlefield. These aircraft, inherited by Ukraine from the Soviet army, are still reliable and can be useful, but there are very few of them left, the supply of similar aircraft from the availability of Eastern European countries does not save the situation.

The Ukrainian Air Force needs a new combat aircraft that can support troops during ground operations and strike at advancing Russian troops. The United States has such an aircraft - it is a single-seat twin-engine attack aircraft A-10 Thunderbolt II, better known as the Warthog. The command of the US Air Force plans to withdraw these aircraft from service and decommission, so that hypothetically, under certain conditions, some of these aircraft could go to Ukraine.
However, under the current situation, the American attack aircraft will be useless for the Ukrainian Air Force, the author of an article for the American magazine 19FortyFive believes. The thing is that today the sky over Ukraine is controlled by Russian air defense, including over the positions of the advancing troops, and this excludes the use of an aircraft. The Warthog is not designed to break into areas saturated with military air defense, but at the same time it could still be useful, since it can use GBU-39 guided precision bombs capable of planning for 95 km.

A-10 Thunderbolt II in Ukraine could only work in the conditions of the advantage of the Ukrainian air defense (air defense) over the Russian one, which is currently not observed
- the author writes.

It is worth noting that in Kiev they abandoned the American attack aircraft in advance, explaining this by its "obsolescence". The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense hopes that the United States will transfer fighter jets to the Ukrainian Air Force, preferably F-16s, and even better if F-16s are combined with F-15s. And more... It is these aircraft, according to Kiev, that are the best suited for combat operations against Russian aviation.
https://vpk.name/news/627699_pressa_ssha_primenenie_shturmovikov_a-10_thunderbolt_ii_na_ukraine_nevozmozhno_po_prichine_prevoshodstva_rossiiskoi_pvo.html

Ukrainian losses on the southern front


https://rutube.ru/video/a0f53ec8274cb5e22774f632cde89b77/

Regular wrote:We know very little what’s going on there. Ukrainians are in a blackout, but so are the Russians. In reality I don’t think Ukrainians were allowed to assemble effective attacking force like they claim. Even Italian (!!!) Leopard 2A6 statement sounds like BS.

Real extent will be seen when dust will settle. It shouldn’t take long.

Italy never had Leopard 2. They had some 1s indeed, and in the sole A2 version both imported from Germany and produced locally. I guess this is a mixed rumor. Maybe there was a talk about supplying Leopards, Leo1A2 was the only option on the table, and it turned to be Leo2 at the end for Russkie propaganda machine.

You walk along the street near by a high fence.
You hear chainsaws growling, dogs barking and scratching at the other side of the fence.
After a while you see a fist big hole in the fence and the first thing you think of is sticking your dick in...

Spoiler:

ALAMO wrote:
Italy never had Leopard 2. They had some 1s indeed, and in the sole A2 version both imported from Germany and produced locally. I guess this is a mixed rumor. Maybe there was a talk about supplying Leopards, Leo1A2 was the only option on the table, and it turned to be Leo2 at the end for Russkie propaganda machine.

What does it even matter? Leopard 2s are no strangers to getting blow up by Russian ATGMs. Let them come. There will be loads of reconstruction after this and 70 tons of kraut steel each should be enough rebar to build a few apartments.

I'm bewildered by this 'Elensky-BoJo tandem the deadliest sad clowns in the world. Just casually sacrificing thousands of men for no gain.

It does not make sense if you believe these two when they talk about what they say they want... if they want a free and democratic Ukraine then they should be doing everything they can to help Russia win, but they don't... they couldn't care less about the Ukraine or the people of the ukraine... remember they have been happily bombing and shelling the Ukrainians in the Donbass and Lugansk regions for the better part of the last decade pretending they are Russians.

The men are meaningless to them because the real goal is to damage Russia and kill Russians and turn the whole world (not just the western world but the actual whole world) against Russia because only then will they actually isolate and contain Russia and be in a position to dictate terms and control them... and they will have the same feelings towards any other country rising in power like China and like India and Brazil and all the other countries resisting western control...

It's warfare 101 (and there are a lot of warfare 101s but as someone giving orders you ought to know them) to establish fire superiority when advancing.

The best proxy force is the one you don't give a shit about.

For Turkey ISIS is better than the Kurds because I think they don't really see ISIS as a real threat or danger to Turkey but Kurdish separatists want pieces of Turkey and Iraq and Iran and Syria, so when Turkey sends ISIS in to battle against the Kurds it wont upset them too much if ISIS suffers heavy losses... as long as the Kurds do too it will be useful.

Equally in Ukraine the US could care less how many of Kievs forces die... as far as most Americans are concerned they are all Russians anyway.

In the Pacific the US is keen to get India and China fighting because they could care less how many Indians die trying to kill Chinese... it is a win win situation for them... China gets damaged and they will be selling lots of weapons and equipment to India... the US makes money and China gets damaged... in Europe the US and the EU is keeping tabs on everything they are selling to Kiev... they rarely talk about the weapons types they tend to talk more about the monetary value of what they are sending because they don't want those weapons back... they want money and it will be top dollar for that shit that has been in storage for potentially decades and they can use that money to restock themselves with newer weapons and equipment... and when peace negotiations ever succeed you can bet your ass that the west will want to be there to ensure they get their money back... which is why I don't think the EU or US should even be involved... they are not neutral parties.

It is interesting that Kiev is showing Turkish ammo... perhaps an attempt to prove Turkey is not impartial and is taking sides so they will start contributing money and weapons to them, but for Russia it makes more sense to keep Turkey as an impartial player that they can trade with and make deals with...

Whatever possessed these idiots to re-enact the Battle of the Somme or the Charge of the Light Brigade? And for what?

Think Dunkirk and the Charge of the Light brigade and you have your answer... failures that are held as victories in Western mythology...

I have said several times here that it is almost like they are working for the Russians to destroy the Ukraine military.

His actions and antics are the best reasons not to take out the leadership of Kiev just yet... never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

You can tell by all the ambulances, Ukrainian MoD going draconian over battlefield reports, Western MSM silence, various photos and videos, and so on

Even the smallest sliver of success and it would be broadcast as a mighty victory for Kiev...

This is fucked up man and that is creating uncontrolled viruses to kill off civilians of different countries. Answers are needed and how the problems are going to be addressed to not happen again. Or the Russians might be keen on creating biological weapons in Mexico in response.

There are two main reasons for US bio weapons labs in Ukraine (and Georgia and China and all the other countries that have them). The primary reason is that it is close to the populations they clearly want to target so genetic material is close by for testing, but the secondary reason is that these bio labs would be illegal in any western country and their testing violates most international laws and regulations.

Only in the Ukraine can you slip the local army commander 10K to send a couple of platoons of men into your lab to be tested and experimented on. These soldiers have no idea what is going on... just following orders... and their commander could care less about his men.

Russia certainly needs to look at their work and get some counter work done... the only real defence from a targeted bio weapon is to have the same yourself so they wont use theirs in fear you will use yours on them.

Aristide used to talk about bio weapons to cull the third world, but what he does not realise is that out in the real world such virus weapons mutate and adapt and by the fourth or fifth generation might just target everyone so everyone dies...

Lots of work on them should improve our ability to deal with a range of diseases without resorting to dangerous options forced on us by huge western pharmaceutical companies... Proper science rather than pop science.

The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense hopes that the United States will transfer fighter jets to the Ukrainian Air Force, preferably F-16s, and even better if F-16s are combined with F-15s. And more... It is these aircraft, according to Kiev, that are the best suited for combat operations against Russian aviation.

I hope they get thousands...

Maybe there was a talk about supplying Leopards, Leo1A2 was the only option on the table, and it turned to be Leo2 at the end for Russkie propaganda machine.

More likely the anti Russian propaganda machine... remember Kiev is getting F-22s and F-35s.

What does it even matter? Leopard 2s are no strangers to getting blow up by Russian ATGMs. Let them come. There will be loads of reconstruction after this and 70 tons of kraut steel each should be enough rebar to build a few apartments.

Short of actual nuclear weapons there is not much the west can send to Kiev that will make any real difference.

lyle6 wrote:
What does it even matter? Leopard 2s are no strangers to getting blow up by Russian ATGMs. Let them come. There will be loads of reconstruction after this and 70 tons of kraut steel each should be enough rebar to build a few apartments.

Nothing more than we should be careful while reading propaganda from both sides.
These kinds of rumors can be released by both sides either.
By the Ukrs, as they want to spread some panic about the next Wunderwaffe, or convince their own citizens how they are being supported by the whole world.
By the Russkies, as they want to present how powerful is the enemy, and to create some negative feelings among their own population.
As I said, for a while now, each T-72 obliterated there is "Polish".
The reason is to antagonize Russians toward the Poles. Not that it has no justification due the Polish actions, but in a long perspective it does not serve well to both nations.
Sadly, I feel like we are being outplayed here, I mean all of the Slavic nations...

Whatever possessed these idiots to re-enact the Battle of the Somme or the Charge of the Light Brigade? And for what?

The next Ramstein meeting is coming up. Billions and Billions of "aid" are at stake. All those Brandons and BoJo´s want their bribes for funneling all those taxpayer (or rather printed) money to the MIC.

It's warfare 101 (and there are a lot of warfare 101s but as someone giving orders you ought to know them) to establish fire superiority when advancing.

Answer from the Pentagon: The Taliban never shot back with artillery. 

The biowarfare labs in Ukria appear to have been working on variations of the usual set of pathogens. I think that the idea is not to create
a totally new and totally lethal virus, but to amplify self-limiting diseases. This includes ones which affect agriculture. Putting a resource
burden on the enemy at the right time by disrupting the food supply and loading up the hospitals has a lot of utility. Risking something that
can come back and bite the makers in the ass all in the name of a final solution to the Russian problem is a bit too much even for NATzO lunatics.

ALAMO wrote:
Sadly, I feel like we are being outplayed here, I mean all of the Slavic nations...

Have been since 1991, and it doesn't take a genius to realize it

Ukrs meanwhile still gulp down Washington and London hogwash by the gallon

TASS

1. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. The armed forces of the Russian Federation liquidated 110 militants of the 30th mechanized and 95th air assault brigades in the Kharkov region and the Donetsk People's Republic. This was stated on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

2. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. The Russian Aerospace Forces eliminated up to 50 foreign fighters with strikes on two mercenary deployment points in the DPR. This was announced to journalists on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

3. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. More than 150 military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the day during their unsuccessful attempts to gain a foothold in certain areas of the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction. This was announced to journalists on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

4. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. Russian aviation and artillery hit four command posts in a day, including the headquarters of the Kraken national formation in Kharkov. This was announced on Sunday by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

5. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. Russian air defense systems shot down five Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles in a day, and also intercepted three HARM anti-radar missiles and seven shells of HIMARS and Olkha multiple launch rocket systems. This was announced on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

6. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. The Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Ukrainian attack aircraft in the Romanovka area. This was announced to journalists on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov. "In the area of ​​​​the village of Romanovka, Nikolaev region, fighter aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces shot down a Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force," Konashenkov said.

7. MOSCOW, 4 September. /TASS/. The Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS), during a special operation with high-precision weapons, liquidated more than 120 Ukrainian nationalists with strikes on the points of deployment of the 80th airborne assault brigade and the warehouse of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU) in the Donetsk People's Republic. This was stated on Sunday by the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.

8. GROZNY, 4 September. /TASS/. Akhmat special forces soldiers, together with the second corps of the people's militia of the Lugansk People's Republic, launched a large-scale offensive in several regions of the Donetsk People's Republic. This was announced on Sunday in his Telegram channel by the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov. "In the Donetsk People's Republic, the Akhmat special forces and the 2nd Corps of the LPR launched a large-scale offensive in several areas. Our fighters are actively advancing in the direction of Soledar, Yakovlevka, Seversk," Kadyrov wrote.

VARGR198 wrote:

https://twitter.com/mdfzeh/status/1566382031457714180

In the coming days the russian units who take care of all the dead bodies left by the enemy will work round the clock again. For the western presstitutes this will be proof of the Russian Army taking high casualties, of course. 

Send the junk back to the Netherlands.

Is this where the Chechens attacked?

This morning, the Armed Forces of Ukraine published a photo of the Ukrainian flag being hoisted on one of the buildings in the southwestern outskirts of Vysokopole. Initially, our team accepted the photo as a frame taken on August 30-31 and published to maintain the morale of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

However, later confirmation came: this morning it was decided to withdraw the units of the Russian Airborne Forces from positions on the southern outskirts of Vysokopolye in order to avoid encirclement.

Having concentrated the main attention of the RF Armed Forces on the Andreevsky sector of the front, on the night of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began an offensive on the positions of the RF Armed Forces in Vysokopolye from the northern outskirts of Olgino and Potemkino. At the same time, battles are going on for the southern outskirts of Olgino (under the control of the RF Armed Forces) and Arkhangelsk (at least half of the settlement is under the confident control of the RF Armed Forces).
@rybar

It seems hohols had some success in this settlement

The enemy continues to attempt an offensive between Nikolaev and Kherson, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing with large forces, trying to recapture Vysokopolye

The Armed Forces of Ukraine occupied the hospital and the western part of Vysokopolye in the Beryslavsky district of the Kherson region.
As you can see in the photo, the AFU militants raised a flag over the hospital in the part of the village they occupied, they were being hit by artillery of the Airborne Forces, smoke from the strikes on the outskirts is visible in the background.

From front line soldiers:
Our fighters report from the spot that the enemy has abandoned large forces with armored vehicles.
Fierce urban battles are going on in the town, the Russian army is repulsing an enemy attack attempt.
We will soon release a detailed summary with data from the field.

@RVvoenkor

They still retain Vysokopolye, at a cost of manpower but it will be sold as a victory

Russia always shoots itself in the foot by allowing Ukrs these phantom victories. Whether Snake island, or the Mi-24 raid on Belgorod, sinking of the Moskva and so on.
Even if this village is completely insignificant, it will be used to boost morale and cancel out the deaths of thousands of soldiers Zelensky sent to commit suicide by Russia. Cancel out the bungled attempt on the Zaporozhie NPP.

That Ukr propaganda is completely delusional and the many who listen to it more so is obvious, but they will to continue to throw themselves like lemmings to die to Russian artillery and air-power unless their morale is blown to pieces and their faith in their foreign puppet leadership is broken. And there's a fantastic opportunity to do so by the conclusion of this offensive by simply denying them any territorial gains whatsoever; or better yet commit to a counter-attack and throw them back from their starting positions, break their defensive lines and attempt to follow through into a rout. Force their units into a chaotic retreat and their morale along with them.
It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people. It does not serve Russia's best interests among other things, to end up in control of this barren shell-shocked land, where every male between 18-50 years old is either dead, crippled or has emigrated, and the rest are consumed by grief or anger.

flamming_python wrote:
It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people. It does not serve Russia's best interests among other things, to end up in control of this barren shell-shocked land, where every male between 18-50 years old is either dead, crippled or has emigrated, and the rest are consumed by grief or anger.

You know exactly to end this it requires Russia to act directly at decision making centers. The chances that it will end is nearly zero, but the chances of second front is huge. Unless Russia does what US did and does, by supplying everywhere everyone with advanced weapons to start local conflicts close to US soil, then there is nothing right now to change the course.

Either Russia takes its historic lands or it needs to go WW3 directly.

flamming_python wrote:Russia always shoots itself in the foot by allowing Ukrs these phantom victories. Whether Snake island, or the Mi-24 raid on Belgorod, sinking of the Moskva and so on.
Even if this village is completely insignificant, it will be used to boost morale and cancel out the deaths of thousands of soldiers Zelensky sent to commit suicide by Russia. Cancel out the bungled attempt on the Zaporozhie NPP.
That Ukr propaganda is completely delusional and the many who listen to it more so is obvious, but they will to continue to throw themselves like lemmings to die to Russian artillery and air-power unless their morale is blown to pieces and their faith in their foreign puppet leadership is broken. And there's a fantastic opportunity to do so by the conclusion of this offensive by simply denying them any territorial gains whatsoever; or better yet commit to a counter-attack and throw them back from their starting positions, break their defensive lines and attempt to follow through into a rout. Force their units into a chaotic retreat and their morale along with them.
It's time to end this meat-grinder that London and Washington organized and their servants in Kiev continue to implement day after day for their own people. It does not serve Russia's best interests among other things, to end up in control of this barren shell-shocked land, where every male between 18-50 years old is either dead, crippled or has emigrated, and the rest are consumed by grief or anger.

You can't do shit bro against phantom victories.
They will figure them out.
For god's sake, they are commemorating non-existent Kievski Prizrak for real!
This time I dare to have a slightly different opinion - this operation is such a catastrophe, that widows&orphans won't let the regular Ukro propaganda machine work.
I have watched a quite powerful material today, filmed by some random Ukrainian girl.
She asked obvious questions - why there are thousands of guys dying in tranches, while in Kiev they dance, jump, and shout "Vova chujnyo". Kids of the oligarchs, party members, wealthy&healthy.
It is a time to bomb the other direction - this is her appeal to Putin.
Bomb fuckin' Kiev, not a conscripted husbands, fathers and brothers.
This is what I was talking about.
Maybe the time grew up, to make a nice bomb run down the Dnepr, hit the masters of the puppets, to show that puppets can be free at last.

One way or the other, the chance is now.

Whatever Russia has to do it must do it now, against the backdrop of this catastrophic failure by Zelensky and his Western patrons. His authority will be at a low, morale will be at a low - and neither that nor the other should be allowed to recover.